tarascon said: With the recent deals on LED, anything above $5 is too much even for Philips. Such as? I'm looking to replace a metric crap ton of CFL and traditional bulbs at home. Best I found so far was an on site HD deal for a 60W equivalent 2 pack for $14.99, but that was a temp sale. Prices for LED bulbs seem to finally be over the cliff now.
$5 is certainly not an every day price but there frequent deals like that. Mostly HD, Lowes with online purchase. Up until a day ago, you could get 2 40W for $7 at homedpot.com. Compared to a $1 CFL, you need to be very much into the other benefits of LED to buy it for 10x the price. You will never recuperate the cost difference at this price level. I have a houseful of LEDs- never paid more than $5. Shoprite had a promotion several months ago for $5 60W. Just keep your eyes open.
interesting - thanks. I prefer LED over CFL in bathrooms, whose lights get switched on and off frequently. Energy savings-wise, they seem pretty close in annual costs though, so yeah, hard to justify the difference unless you specifically want/need it for some reason.
Another one a year ago: (copied from another site)
Shoprite Supermarket (CT, DE, NJ, NY, PA, MD) B&M - Sylvania LED Bulb $5 ($25 Reg.) Shoprite Supermarket (CT, DE, NJ, NY, PA, MD) B&M Store by me(NJ) had bunch of Sylvania 78911 14-Watt A19 Ultra LED Bulb for $4.99 ( $24.99 - $20 Instant rebate using price plus card - limit 4).
You guys are nuts. No way am I paying close to $10 for a light bulb. I just bought 120 60w A19 incandescents for $38 shipped and 96 65w BR40 incandescents for $176 shipped from Home Depot. That should last me several years until quality LED bulbs are mature and affordable. CFL bulbs will never enter my home, ever.
I use CFLs for lights that stay on. Incandescent for lights switched on and off frequently or can see the bulb (pendant light in kitchen). The time it CFLs take top warm up is annoying at best. Let's not even get started on dimming..
tarascon said: I gotta say- if you use incandescents, LEDs at even $10 will make sense. You are burning money.
First of all, I prefer the aesthetics of incandescent light. That should be my right to "waste" money however I wish, whether it's on light bulbs or a meal at Ruth's Chris. Secondly, I have dimmers everywhere and light switches that turn off when a room is empty or timed to turn off automatically. I know what I'm doing with my money, and I don't need Washington bureaucrats to force their financial wisdom on me, thank goodness. And finally, if it's truly an obviously better choice to abandon incandescents, it shouldn't require a law to make it happen, and I won't surrender to the nanny state. I'll stick with incandescents until it makes financial sense for me to switch to LEDs, and only then.
Toddler: I agree that wasting money is your choice but from a financial standpoint it surely does not make any sense contrarily to what you are saying. It is not because a technology has an obvious benefit for society that the adoption of such technology by people is easy. For example, the seat belt obviously saves life yet when it was introduced its adoption was low. Passing a law to require wearing a seat belt helped in the adoption of what was at the time a new technology. The examples are numerous. If you can't accept laws you should live in autarchy on a desert island.
manu2004 said: Toddler: I agree that wasting money is your choice but from a financial standpoint it surely does not make any sense contrarily to what you are saying. It is not because a technology has an obvious benefit for society that the adoption of such technology by people is easy. For example, the seat belt obviously saves life yet when it was introduced its adoption was low. Passing a law to require wearing a seat belt helped in the adoption of what was at the time a new technology. The examples are numerous. If you can't accept laws you should live in autarchy on a desert island. Thanks, but that sums up why I won't live someplace where they pass laws to mandate how large my soda can be or how much salt I can be served. I like the aesthetic quality to incandescent light, particularly when dimmed, so that's a personal choice. As for the financial aspect, my 60w A19 incandescent costs $0.31, and the "hot deal" LED equivalent in this thread costs $9.47. That is about 32x more expensive, so to even begin to break even at that cost, LEDs need to last 5x as long (about ten years) and use 1/7 as much energy. They might do that, but there is no track record for these devices, and I am not willing to embrace the technology at this time. That's why I purchased a ten-year supply of incandescents, calculating that as the break-even point, at which time I'm positive I'll have better options to select from and LEDs will be better made, far more reliable and much more affordable than they are today. If between now and then I feel confident that I'll get equal quality and performance from LEDs at a price that makes sense, I'll make the switch.
there's also the heat factor A 60w incandescent bulb will give off 200 BTUs each. Multiply that by the number of bulbs your using. That would increase your summer Air Conditioning usage. During winter, it wouldn't affect your heating cost IF you have electric heat. If you use natural gas heating, the cost of the electric bulb heating can cost 3x or more than the same heating with natural gas.
wmguy said: I have been looking, but I haven't been able to find whether these are suitable for use in fully enclosed fixtures. My other 60W replacement LEDs specifically say they are not. Switch LED recently introduded its Infinia line of bulbs that are priced the same as the Cree bulbs. They specifically say that the Infinias are suitable for enclosed fixtures.
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