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Synology DS412+ NAS and 2 Western Digital Red 3TB Hard Drives

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Synology DS412+ NAS and 2 Western Digital Red 3TB Hard Drives
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Combo deal. Been looking at something like this for a few weeks and with this deal you get the two Western Digital Red 3TB drives for $100 per drive. Hard to beat.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Com...

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Good deal. Thanks.

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The red's are better then the black?

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alienjedi said:   The red's are better then the black?
http://www.wdc.com/wdproducts/library/Flyer/ENG/2278-771046.pdf

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amheck said:   
alienjedi said:   The red's are better then the black?
http://www.wdc.com/wdproducts/library/Flyer/ENG/2278-771046.pdf

I am severely handicapped and unable to comprehend the words on that, can you explain it with pictographs?

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For a NAS it is better than the Black. I have a Black in my desktop and it's been great for three years now. But the Red has some optimizations for NAS environments.
Here are some key points from WD:

  • Less aggressive head parking (noIntelliParkfeature)
  • Configurable Time Limited Error Recovery (TLER), with a default of 7 seconds
  • IntelliPower disk rotation speeds (comparable to Green drives)
  • Vibration reduction mechanism in hardware

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For reference, 3tb WD Red has been as low as $110 or $90AR back in Nov/Dec. I picked up a couple of them for my Synology DS214SE.

Also note, for anyone who cares, WD Red comes with 3yr warranty. (5yrs for black, 2yrs for Blue or Green)

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Yuyak;18332636 said:For reference, 3tb WD Red has been as low as $110 or $90AR back in Nov/Dec. I picked up a couple of them for my Synology DS214SE.
Yes I don't doubt that. But I wanted a NAS and HDs NOW!!!I think today this is a pretty good deal.
ow for those that can wait, there will be better deals as always.
For those that are interested, here is an Amazon price tracker, fun to play with. See what you missedIf I could only go back to April of 2012 and I could have gotten the DS412+ for 499.99....

http://thetracktor.com/detail/B008JJLW4M/

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alienjedi said:   
amheck said:   
alienjedi said:   The red's are better then the black?
http://www.wdc.com/wdproducts/library/Flyer/ENG/2278-771046.pdf

I am severely handicapped and unable to comprehend the words on that, can you explain it with pictographs?


Maybe just ask whoever is helping you go to the bathroom help you read this as well?

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Good deal. I just bought this last month and paid about $850. 412+ and 2 WD red 3TB.

I love this device so far.

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Just know if you set this up with 2 drives using Synolgy's SHR setup (which I did), it sets the system up as RAID 1. This will give you 3TB total storage. If you add 1 or more 3TB drives (in SHR mode), the device will convert this to RAID 5.

Use the SynologyRAID calculator to see how much storage you would get in various configurations.

http://www.synology.com/en-us/support/RAID_calculator

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alienjedi said:   The red's are better then the black?

Yes, the Red are better in terms of reliability than Black. Black are better in terms of oerfirmance. The WD Red are a relatively new category of drives called NAS drives and are intended for NAS devices like this Synology. They are built to higher standards for durability than WD regular PC drives. They may be suitable for home use but I would not use them in a Synology that is intended for a business environment. In a business environment you want an "Enterprise" class drives that both WD and Seagate offer. Seagate are generally regarded as the preferable Enterprise drive and have a 5 year warranty. The Enterprise drives do cost more than the Red but are worth the expense for the added reliability particularly when you consider the total expense to a business when a file server that multiple people rely upon to do their jobs is down.

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I looked this combo deal over againtoday and I am not so impressed with it.
Don't get me wrong, I think the Synology DS412+ is an awesome little machine but these drives are not an appropriate match.
The DS412+ sells at Newegg and other places for $600.
That means the two Western Digital 3tb Red drives are $100 each.
The drives themselves are $134 on Newegg, or $129 Amazon, making this deal represent about a $60 savings, which isn't bad at all.
But... These Western Digital RED drivesmay be more reliable than desktop drives, but they are also slow drives.
They run at variable speeds to help extend the life of the drive, reduce power consumption, and reduce heat in the enclosure.
Nobody states exactly how fast they spin at maximum speed and you can guess that the reason for not stating it is because it would scare away the average customer.
I would much rather have Seagate Enterprice high reliability performance drives that for about $100 more ($175 each).
The Seagate Enterprise drives not only have a longer warranty (5 years instead of Red's 3) but operate at 7200rpm all the time.
They are a more appropriate match for a enclosure like this one that is intended for a small business setting.
If the goal is tojust create a media server in a home then my comments on the drive probably should be file under who cares, but if this purchase is for a home then it is total overkill to spend $600 on this model Synology NAS enclosure when there are other Synology models available for far less money.
I guess what I am saying is this combination is kind of like putting cheap tires on a Ferarri. It just doesn't make sense. Better off with a BMW with great tires than a Ferrari with cheap tires.
Just my 2.

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