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Does anyone know if you can use this phone on another carrier or internationally or is it "locked" to Virgin just not a specific contract with them.

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I hear it is locked down for only Virgin Mobile.

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Are these unlocked

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Is this really a good deal? Seems like reg price

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Phones on Verizon and Virgin Mobile (a.k.a. Sprint) generally do not have SIM cards and can't benefit from phone unlocking or phone number portability in the same way as GSM phones can. Some of this is being complicated by the advent of 4G data network adoption in the U.S. and around the world, such that your Verizon phone might actually have a SIM card — but the reality is, it's probably still not going to be able to benefit from being unlocked because it will most likely not operate on the same frequency bands as other carriers.

In short, all Virgin Mobile phones are [essentially] locked.  That said, it is possible to use a VM phone on Sprint and vice-versa but only if they give you permission to do so.  This is all managed by software provisioning so Sprint can manage whether or not you attempt to use a [free] contract phone on VM.

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wbrosche said:   Phones on Verizon and Virgin Mobile (a.k.a. Sprint) generally do not have SIM cards and can't benefit from phone unlocking or phone number portability in the same way as GSM phones can. Some of this is being complicated by the advent of 4G data network adoption in the U.S. and around the world, such that your Verizon phone might actually have a SIM card — but the reality is, it's probably still not going to be able to benefit from being unlocked because it will most likely not operate on the same frequency bands as other carriers.

In short, all Virgin Mobile phones are [essentially] locked.

 
Thanks for the info! Anyone know a good site to see what the bands of current phone models are from US carriers and the available bands in other countries? I would be interested in Latin America and Europe the most.

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wbrosche said:   Phones on Verizon and Virgin Mobile (a.k.a. Sprint) generally do not have SIM cards and can't benefit from phone unlocking or phone number portability in the same way as GSM phones can. Some of this is being complicated by the advent of 4G data network adoption in the U.S. and around the world, such that your Verizon phone might actually have a SIM card — but the reality is, it's probably still not going to be able to benefit from being unlocked because it will most likely not operate on the same frequency bands as other carriers.

In short, all Virgin Mobile phones are [essentially] locked.  That said, it is possible to use a VM phone on Sprint and vice-versa but only if they give you permission to do so.  This is all managed by software provisioning so Sprint can manage whether or not you attempt to use a [free] contract phone on VM.


Actually, you're totally wrong about Verizon iPhones. Verizon phones do have a SIM slot (as of the 4s or 5), and the SIM slot is unlocked - thus the phone can be used on all GSM networks and the Verizon network as well. It also comes with GSM and CDMA radios. This is why the Verizon iPhone was ultra-valuable at launch day - you could use it almost everywhere. It can also do LTE outside the US, if that LTE network uses Verizon's bands and you had the right SIM card.

From what I understand, the Virgin Mobile phones are locked down so you can't use them on any other network. I've read that you can reflash them for use on other CDMA networks, ymmv. 

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It is "no contract", but you have nowhere to go, because it is not a GSM phone. It is an outdated CDMA that makes you bounded to one provider in one country.

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It is a terrible thing when you are unable to read.  My apologies, it is probably more likely a problem with the inability to comprehend what you read.  Either that or just an overwhelming desire to demonstrate your knowledge without actually contributing any new information since your post does not change the conclusion about phones on CDMA networks.  Particularly when 3G remains the most widely available technology used.  I recommend you go back and pay close attention to the word "generally" and additional statement about 4G with respect to Verizon before you use phrases like "totally wrong."

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