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Blackfriday Advantage is the biggest rip off site on the planet. Who in their right mind would pay for their crappy summary, when you can get this stuff online for free.

No, this is not allowed. Besides, most of the items on BF are limited and the shrink wrap is only removed right when the clock flips to the start time of the sale. There are associates standing by to remove it. Also, many stores do not receive their hottest items in until the day before and have to remain in a locked trailer until early BF morning. It is a great idea, just not feasible.

phoenix82 said:Yes, I too waited in the cold the last two years at Best Buy. I'm hoping this year the "secret" deals are even posted online ahead of time. I'm waiting for my Black Friday Advantage deals guide to come which I'm hoping will have some inside tips as well for deals. I'm attacking all angles this year!

I've had so many years of waiting outside in the cold at Best Buy, with the allure of a cheap laptop or whatever. I get good deals, but never on the "big thing" that I wanted.

Oh, and what's with Best Buy moving the time earlier and earlier? At one point it was 6 AM, then 5 AM. Last year they started handing out the doorbuster tickets at 4 AM, meaning you had to be there way earlier just to get in line for one. I'd seriously like the time to be moved back an hour or so.

Think they'll make it earlier this year <shudder> ?

My best tip is that before you look at any ads, make a list of what you need. then try to find those items in the ads. otherwise you will end up regreting some purchases while trying to break even on eBay. Anybody need a copy of windows vista upgrade?

Most important is to check for online deals and avoid those B&M stores for sure

Cedar1079 said:Don't forget to check the websites for the same deals you see in the BF ads.

Echo that. Almost everything but the early bird specials are available online. So make sure things you are looking to buy are absolutely impossible to get online before pulling the all nighter. I do subscribe to the homeless person theory though, especially since they are way used to staying out all night in the cold.

go number 2 before you head out.

In my experience, the vast majority of people at Best Buy on BF come out with under $50 in savings to show for hours of waiting. It's only a handfull of people, showing up early onThanksgiving afternoon, that manage to snag the real loss leader deals, and most of them make close to minimum wage, factoring in waiting time. Additionally, the vast majority of BF prices can be found at some point later in the year for savy Fatwalleters. Take the NUVI 200 for example. People lined up all night at BB last year to snag it for $169. It can now be had for $130 or so as per recent Fatwallet deals. So don't get caught up in the hype before you do the math, and think long and hard about the payoff vs. the effort! I personally stopped bothering with BB for the past few years. I hit the smaller stores and the online sales and I consistently end up with a great Black Friday haul, and remarkably little frustration.

For Best Buy, call now and speak to someone at their "business desk" and make an appointment for a personal shopping assistant for 3pm on BF. Let them know what you want and they will lock it up ahead of time for you. Then, after you casually wake up, have some coffee, maybe a Turkey sandwich for lunch, you stroll down to Best Buy, meet your shopper, then go right to the business desk where they bring you your stuff, check out right away there, and leave, all in about 10 minutes time tops.

The one time I did this, I did not have a big ticket item like a TV, but I had them hold a big Casio keyboard, external HD, some DVD movies, a stack of blank DVD-R discs, some Gameboy games, and the like.