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I was trying up replace a file (per the software vendor) in a folder under Program Files. It wouldn't do it because the folder is read-only. I used Win Explorer to remove that and after okaying the process, it apparently works. However the folder (not the files) is still read only. I am logged on as the Administrator.

Is this typical for Vista to make Program Files folders read-only? How do I remove the read-only?

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Sounds like it might be a 'security feature'

To Those With Vista Feature With Read Only Folder Options
Note: This isn't a bug or a virus. This is simply Windows Vista keeping your computer. I had this issue and Monty007 explained how to fix the issue. I thought I'd make it clear to all.


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Originally Posted by Monty007
Right click on the folder and go to properties>security>advandeced>owner> take ownership of the folder and give your self full permissions.

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Still can't get it to work. Here is what I have done. This is the owner for the folder:
owner
Permissions Screens:
permission 1
permission 2

I had to show the permission screen twice because it can't be changed in size and some info needed to be scrolled. I'm not sure how Johnny got out there twice. However I tried this procedure on another folder, it's not there twice and still doesn't work.

This is what I get on every file when I try to clear the read-only check box. It occurs on every file, if I don't cancel out.
error

And just to be sure, I tried saving the file into the folder after doing all this and have renamed the existing file before doing the save of the new file. I get the same message saying the folder is read only. I find it odd, that I can re-name a file, but not save a new file in the folder.

I've not got a clue.

Message edited by: jangell2 on 2008-05-16 13:41:56 CDT
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Odd... Sounds like this article, which isn't the exact same problem you are having, may have the solution.
Vista won't let me write files

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I looked at that, thank you for the link. I noticed someone replying that it seemed like a big hammer to use to fix the problem. Than when I did the process I got this warning:
warning

I decided not to proceed. I guess I'll call Dell, it's Dell installed software and they should be able to tell me to fix it.

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Good luck with Dell - let us know what happens. If they have a different fix it might help someone else in the future.

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I posted a message on their forums and will try to call them in the next couple of days if I don't get an answer from the forum. I will post the results here.

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You cannot view or change the Read-only or the System attributes of folders in Windows Server 2003, in Windows XP, or in Windows Vista

SUMMARY
This article contains step-by-step instructions on how to use the Attrib command to work around the inability to view or to remove the Read-only or the System attributes of folders in Windows Server 2003, in WindowsXP, and in Windows Vista.

Symptoms of the problem
You may experience any of the following symptoms: • You cannot view or change the Read-only or System attributes of a folder by using the Properties dialog box for the folder. For example, you may experience the following symptoms: • When you view the General tab of a folder's Properties dialog box, the Read-only check box is not available, and there is no check box to change the System attribute.
• You click to clear or click to select the Read-only check box on the General tab of a folder's Properties dialog box. When you click OK or Apply, you receive the following message:
Confirm Attribute Changes
You have chosen to make the following attribute changes:
unset read-only
Do you want to apply this change to this folder only, or do you want to apply it to all subfolders and files as well?
If you click Apply changes to this folder only, the Read-only attribute is changed for all the files in the folder. However, the Read-only attribute is not changed for the folder, its subfolders, or any files in its subfolders. If you click Apply changes to this folder, subfolders, and files, the Read-only attribute is changed for all files in the folder and all files in the subfolders. However, the Read-only attribute is not changed for the folder or its subfolders.

• Some programs may display error messages when you try to save files to a folder that uses the Read-only or System attribute. As a result, these programs may not be able to save files to the folder.

 

CAUSE
Unlike the Read-only attribute for a file, the Read-only attribute for a folder is typically ignored by Windows, Windows components and accessories, and other programs. For example, you can delete, rename, and change a folder with the Read-only attribute by using Windows Explorer. The Read-only and System attributes is only used by Windows Explorer to determine whether the folder is a special folder, such as a system folder that has its view customized by Windows (for example, My Documents, Favorites, Fonts, Downloaded Program Files), or a folder that you customized by using the Customize tab of the folder's Properties dialog box. As a result, Windows Explorer does not allow you to view or change the Read-only or System attributes of folders. When a folder has the Read-Only attribute set it causes Explorer to request the Desktop.ini of that folder to see if any special folder settings need to be set. It has been seen where if a network share that has a large amount of folders set to Read-only, it can cause Explorer to take longer then what is expected to render the contents of that share while it waits on the retrieval of the Desktop.ini files. The slower the network connectivity to the share the longer this process can take to the point where Explorer may timeout waiting for the data and render nothing or appear to hang.

Note In some previous versions of Windows, you can change the Read-only attribute for folders by using the Properties dialog box for the folder, but no versions of Windows permit you to change the System attribute by using Windows Explorer.


Steps to work around this problem
To work around this problem, use the Attrib command at a command prompt (Cmd.exe) to view or to remove the Read-only or the System attributes of folders.


To view or to remove the Read-only or the System attributes of folders in Windows Server 2003 or in Windows XP
1. Click Start, click Run, type cmd, and then press ENTER.
2. To view the syntax for the Attrib command, type attrib ? at the command prompt.
Warning If you remove the Read-only or System attribute from a folder, it may appear as a ordinary folder and some customizations may be lost. For example, Windows customizes the Fonts folder and provides a special folder view that permits you to hide variations, such as bold and italic. It also permits you to change the folder's view settings in ways that are specific to fonts. If you remove the Read-only and System attributes of the Fonts folder, these customized view settings are not available. For folders that you have customized by using the Customize tab of the folder's Properties dialog box, the folder icon and other other customizations may be lost when you remove the Read-only attribute.

If a program cannot save files to a folder with the Read-only attribute, such as My Documents, change the Read-only attribute to System by using the Attrib command at a command prompt.

To remove the Read-only attribute and to set the System attribute, use the following command:
attrib -r +s drive:<path><foldername>
For example, to remove the Read-only attribute and to set the System attribute for the C:Test folder, use the following command:
attrib -r +s c:test
Be aware that some programs may not operate correctly with folders for which the System attribute and the Read-only attribute are set. Therefore, use the following command to remove these attributes:
attrib -r -s c:test


To view or to remove the Read-only or the System attributes of folders in Windows Vista
1. Click Start, click Run, type cmd, and then press ENTER..
2. To view the syntax for the Attrib command, type attrib ? at the command prompt.
To remove the Read-only attribute and to set the System attribute, use the following command:
attrib -r +s drive:<path><foldername>
For example, to remove the Read-only attribute and to set the System attribute for the C:Test folder, use the following command:
attrib -r +s c:test
Be aware that some programs may not operate correctly with folders for which the System attribute and the Read-only attribute are set. Therefore, use the following command to remove these attributes:
attrib -r -s drive:<path><foldername>
For example, to remove both the Read-only and the System attributes from the C:Test folder, use the following command:
attrib -r -s c:test
If the Run command is not listed on the Start menu, do the following:
Click Start, click All Programs, click Accessories, and then click Run.


STATUS
This behavior is by design.


MORE INFORMATION
Windows stores file and folder attributes in the file system with the file and folder name, extension, date and time stamps, and other information. The Read-only check box for folders is not available because it does not apply to the folder. You can use this check box to set the Read-only attribute for files in the folder. However, you cannot use Windows Explorer to determine whether a folder has the Read-only and System attributes set. To determine the attributes that are set on a folder, or to change these attributes, you must use the Attrib command at a command prompt.

Message edited by: bheywow on 2008-05-16 17:25:36 CDT
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bheywow said:You cannot view or change the Read-only or the System attributes of folders in Windows Server 2003, in Windows XP, or in Windows Vista

SUMMARY
This article contains step-by-step instructions on how to use the Attrib command to work around the inability to view or to remove the Read-only or the System attributes of folders in Windows Server 2003, in WindowsXP, and in Windows Vista.

Wow, that's a set of detailed instructions. Thank you. Via my posting on the Dell forums I found this link which provided a reg file to add an entry to the context sensitive menu to take ownership of a file or folder. I tried it and it worked. One odd thing that happened was that when I double-clicked on the reg file or right-clicked and selected merge, it always brought up notepad and didn't process the reg file. I don't think that's normal, unless there's a command I was supposed to do in notepad that I don't know. What had to do was run regedit and import the reg file, which worked.

BTW, that link will take you to an excellent Vista (and others) forum. I had to register to download, but I think I'll be a frequent visitor there.

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