kshell said: If you have XP why bother? What is to be gained by upgrading?
Don't understand the red to their question. Same question I asked myself when I saw this 'deal'. Office 2007 and Office 2010 will run under XP. Corporate adaptation of Vista or Windows 7 is extremely low. Upgrade to Windows 7 requires more hardware than XP. Downgrades to XP will still exist until April 2014. http://money.cnn.com/2010/07/13/technology/windows_xp/index.htm
Because it will make your XP machine faster. Look, I understand that you have gone beyond heavy petting with XP, but Windows 7 really is a better OS. Older PC's with Win7 on them are just downright snappier than they were with XP. As my favorite TV doctor once said, "It's dead Jim!"
I tried to downgrade one of our Dell 1525 laptops to XP. After many hours finding drivers and doing the downgrade I still could not get the card reader to work and something else, don't remember. It was a pain in the ass.
I should be able to upgrade from Vista to 7 without those headaches.
jolma
Senior Member
posted: Sep. 2, 2010 @ 3:30p
XP will no longer get security updates in 2014, so, for $50 now you may be able to avoid an expensive upgrade in 4 years. If you have any expensive software like Office or Photoshop that won't transfer to a new computer, you could save a lot by keeping your old machine going.
jolma said: XP will no longer get security updates in 2014, so, for $50 now you may be able to avoid an expensive upgrade in 4 years. If you have any expensive software like Office or Photoshop that won't transfer to a new computer, you could save a lot by keeping your old machine going.
Security updates???
Has anyone here actually felt that their XP machines were secured despite the hundreds of updates MSFT provided?
jolma said: XP will no longer get security updates in 2014, so, for $50 now you may be able to avoid an expensive upgrade in 4 years. If you have any expensive software like Office or Photoshop that won't transfer to a new computer, you could save a lot by keeping your old machine going.
You are making an assumption that your expensive software will work under 7 as well. Not necessarily a given although there is an XP compatibility mode under 7. I would run the Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor before I considered the upgrade.
I haven't found a single piece of software that I own that hasn't run under Win7. Well, except for AV software, but who actually expects low level utilities to run on a new OS? Although if you have kept them up-to-date you should now be using versions that are compatible with Win7. You have kept those low level utilities up-to-date haven't you?
My current systems run satisfactorily under XP. Why should I be worried about continued support for XP after 2014? By 2014 I'd be looking to replace my systems.
Wineaux said: Your system will run more than satisfactorily under Win-7. /shrug
Really? I have systems with motherboards that max out at 256MB, 378MB and 512MB of RAM how does installing Windows 7 improve their performance?
The answer is it won't. None of the systems are good candidates for an upgrade.
jolma
Senior Member
posted: Sep. 5, 2010 @ 2:53p
I don't think most people would says that any machine with 512mb or less runs satisfactorily with XP. Web browsing, even with adblock plus, often uses nearly 500 mb by itself. I have used machines with only 512mb, web browsing is very slow. There are claims that Ubuntu or another light linux may work better but if you are really stuck below 1gb of ram you should make plans to get something better.
How many icons do you have in the start menu, how many folders for files? On a fast machine, with Windows 7 you can find a program or file instantly without browsing folders - that is where the benefit comes in, not in raw speed.
kshell said: Wineaux said: Your system will run more than satisfactorily under Win-7. /shrug
Really? I have systems with motherboards that max out at 256MB, 378MB and 512MB of RAM how does installing Windows 7 improve their performance?
The answer is it won't. None of the systems are good candidates for an upgrade. Sorry, please continue reveling in your mediocrity. Any plans to upgrade from a black and white to color TV anytime soon? Are the plans to install an indoor toilet still on hold?
Wineaux said: kshell said: Wineaux said: Your system will run more than satisfactorily under Win-7. /shrug
Really? I have systems with motherboards that max out at 256MB, 378MB and 512MB of RAM how does installing Windows 7 improve their performance?
The answer is it won't. None of the systems are good candidates for an upgrade. Sorry, please continue reveling in your mediocrity. Any plans to upgrade from a black and white to color TV anytime soon? Are the plans to install an indoor toilet still on hold?
LOL, your blanket statement is just so overly broad that I couldn't resist. I just do not want FWer's wasting money on an inappropriate upgrade. FYI, I have other systems with 2GB or more RAM, a multiple-core processor, and are quite capable of or are running Windows 7.
Yes, but systems with as little RAM as you mentioned in your post shouldn't even be running XP! They'd be happy with Linux, but not a MS product, except maybe Win CE. The thing is, that my blanket statement covers almost all of the PC users out there, and yours is aimed at a tiny fraction of the machines still in use. Seriously, those are P2 and P3 spec machines, or some sort of custom mini boards that are task specific. Your examples are like posting in a thread about a deal on tires that the deal isn't for everyone because you own a Model T and a Model A. It's cool that you own an antique and all, but it's not particularly relevant to the conversation at hand.
Wineaux said: Yes, but systems with as little RAM as you mentioned in your post shouldn't even be running XP! It's cool that you own an antique and all, but it's not particularly relevant to the conversation at hand.
XP was released in 2001. RAM required: 64MB minimum, recommended 128MB.
If you want to run Windows 7 on your PC, here's what it takes:
* 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor * 1 gigabyte (GB) RAM (32-bit) or 2 GB RAM (64-bit) * 16 GB available hard disk space (32-bit) or 20 GB (64-bit) * DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM 1.0 or higher driver
You are posting on the Deal Discussion Forum, not Hot Deals. The point I am bring up is germane. Not all PC's are good candidates for the upgrade. If you need additional hardware to meet the minimum requirements is the upgrade a good deal or are you better off buying a new PC?
XP barely runs on 512MB, and needs 1GB to run decently. Amazingly enough its speed almost doubles by upgrading to 2GB of RAM. 64MB min and 128MB recommended my arse! Gotta love the sound of a hard drive thrashing around like a baby seal being devoured by a shark as it constantly caches the OS...
Retail computers with Windows 7 Home Premium (32-bit) are not sold with less than 2GB RAM and those with the 64-bit version are not sold with less than 3GB. Why is that? Answer: The OS needs the extra RAM or else perform suffers due to the need to do more swapping.
By the way, adding RAM to boost performance is not news and is not restricted to Windows systems. For the PC market it goes all the way back to the days of the home brewed PC.
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