Interesting story... but probably more appropriate for Deal Discussion than Hot Deal
NoMoneyInMyWallet
Tired Member
posted: May. 28, 2012 @ 3:36p
stkpker said: A bunch of Ford Escape were damaged by hail. Will they sell these?Thousands more Escapes are parked around town as Ford officials prepare for a scheduled launch to dealers around mid-June, said United Auto Workers Local 862 building chairman Steven M. Stone, adding that damaged vehicles “will not be sold to the public.”
FriendlyPeon
Tired Member
posted: May. 28, 2012 @ 3:48p
U Ain't Workin' folks take care of themselves.
NOTPC
Member
posted: May. 28, 2012 @ 4:06p
they cant even sell them without the dents
sap283
Member
posted: May. 28, 2012 @ 6:03p
I'm sure they have insurance for those. If the repair cost is substancial, then I think insurance would be the one deciding what to do with cars... Just my 2 cents!!!
Wizard83
Ancient Member
posted: May. 28, 2012 @ 7:16p
They will repair and sell them. A co-worker bought a GMC van several years ago at a terrific price. It was much cheaper than he was quoted at any other dealer, so he asked how they could do that. They told him they were hail damaged and repaired. They said they would have had to tell him before signing the final deal. He also had to sign some paperwork that he acknowledged the hail damage repair. I think he saved $3 to $4k which was alot on a 90's van that sold for 16k
ducky51
Member
posted: May. 28, 2012 @ 7:36p
Ford= Found. On. Road. Dead. flame on.. IDGAS the truth hurts sometimes
meribona
Member
posted: May. 28, 2012 @ 10:23p
Wizard83 said: They will repair and sell them. A co-worker bought a GMC van several years ago at a terrific price. It was much cheaper than he was quoted at any other dealer, so he asked how they could do that. They told him they were hail damaged and repaired. They said they would have had to tell him before signing the final deal. He also had to sign some paperwork that he acknowledged the hail damage repair. I think he saved $3 to $4k which was alot on a 90's van that sold for 16k
Agreed. I don't see why they wouldn't. The damage is cosmetic and I'd be hugely surprised if the insurance company would just write Ford a check and be done with it. The insurance company will fix them up, slap a salvage or refurbished title on it, and then sell them. From what I've read about this new Escape, it's quite impressive which means there should be plenty of people willing to chomp at a discount off a dealer-inflated price. I'd certainly look at one, especially if it had the 2 liter turbo in it.
As an aside, why wouldn't you buy a repaired hail-damaged car? The glass will have been replaced. The dented metal work will have either been replaced or banged out. The underlying mechanics of the car (engine, brakes, transmission, etc) would all be fine.
I'd be more worried about buying the first model year of a car and all the kinks that come with it.
glock65803
Senior Member
posted: May. 28, 2012 @ 10:53p
They will end up for sale with all the water damaged Mazda CX-9's here.
nsdp
Dismembered Member
posted: May. 28, 2012 @ 11:48p
Don't think so. Flooded vehicles are subject to special rules issued by the FTC after Katrina and Rita. Since those VIN numbers have to be reported to NHTSA reselling those is a fast ticket to Leavenworth. The hail damaged vehicles are allowed to be resold in the same manner as vehicles damaged in transit. Full disclosure. Not sure you will see the full depreciation in value for the hail damage but generally still a good deal. Especially if you are looking for a work truck that is going to get beat up quickly anyway. Anybody with a work truck without some dings isn't working very hard.
glock65803
Senior Member
posted: May. 29, 2012 @ 12:05a
I don't know about all the regulations involved, but I saw that a lot of cars from the Joplin tornado ended up at Midway. Most of those had significant hail damage.
bippie
Senior Member - 2K
posted: May. 29, 2012 @ 5:12a
I was in Chicago this weekend and several dealers were running radio ads offering significant discounts for hail damaged vehicles. They were not specific about the amount of discount but did say they had never sold new vehicles at these low prices before. Hype or truth? I don't know but thought this might add to the discussion.
I did see some hail damaged vehicles parked around town. That must have been some hail to cause all those dents. Repair shops must be booked for months....
effenfish
Member
posted: May. 29, 2012 @ 6:13a
we bought a hail-damaged vehicle that was heavily discounted because of the damage. they offered to have the dents repaired for $1k, or buy as-is. we bought it with dings and don't really notice them.
briarycliffs
Thrifty Member
posted: May. 29, 2012 @ 7:11a
I think they left off a key word in that quote. Here is the same line from another news outlet. "Todd Nissen, a spokesman, said the cars were undergoing final quality checks when the storm hit. The damaged units won't be sold to the public as new cars, he said." They are still tallying the damage.
wordgirl
Senior Member - 10K
posted: May. 29, 2012 @ 9:40a
Hail-damaged cars can be great deals.
My main reaction on hearing this story was "Were they all Escapes? Not one little Fiesta? Preferably the SEL? Silver?"
wp746911
Senior Member - 1K
posted: May. 29, 2012 @ 12:24p
NOTPC said: yes they will fix the dents and sell them as new cars ,,,,maybe to you !!!!!!!but i know it wont be sold to me...i dont buy American Vevicles..
So you won't buy Toyotas or BMWs made in the USA, or you won't buy Fords made in Germany? Your mindless threadcrap confuses me.
In Dallas/Ft. Worth a ton of dealers have tents for their vehicles- I'm assuming the frequent hail here makes them cover up to save $$.
drmyk
Member
posted: May. 29, 2012 @ 12:26p
My brother bought a hail damaged car at a significant discount, damage was disclosed but obvious. Glass had been replaced, but the sheet metal was dimpled like a Titleist NXT. Maybe it improves his aerodynamics.
shanebo1
Senior Member
posted: May. 29, 2012 @ 3:14p
meribona said: Wizard83 said: They will repair and sell them. A co-worker bought a GMC van several years ago at a terrific price. It was much cheaper than he was quoted at any other dealer, so he asked how they could do that. They told him they were hail damaged and repaired. They said they would have had to tell him before signing the final deal. He also had to sign some paperwork that he acknowledged the hail damage repair. I think he saved $3 to $4k which was alot on a 90's van that sold for 16k
Agreed. I don't see why they wouldn't. The damage is cosmetic and I'd be hugely surprised if the insurance company would just write Ford a check and be done with it. The insurance company will fix them up, slap a salvage or refurbished title on it, and then sell them. From what I've read about this new Escape, it's quite impressive which means there should be plenty of people willing to chomp at a discount off a dealer-inflated price. I'd certainly look at one, especially if it had the 2 liter turbo in it.
As an aside, why wouldn't you buy a repaired hail-damaged car? The glass will have been replaced. The dented metal work will have either been replaced or banged out. The underlying mechanics of the car (engine, brakes, transmission, etc) would all be fine.
I'd be more worried about buying the first model year of a car and all the kinks that come with it.
Aftermarket paint jobs typically aren't as high quality and don't last as long as factory paint. But it may well be worth it if one could get a good discount.
Glacierwolf
Dismembered Member
posted: May. 29, 2012 @ 6:52p
drmyk said: My brother bought a hail damaged car at a significant discount, damage was disclosed but obvious. Glass had been replaced, but the sheet metal was dimpled like a Titleist NXT. Maybe it improves his aerodynamics.
The Mythbusters did this, as alluded to by another poster. Their quasi-scientific results were that a car that looks like a golf ball got better gas mileage. Of course it is the Mythbusters so take it for what you will.
netnerd
Member
posted: May. 29, 2012 @ 8:55p
wp746911 said: or you won't buy Fords made in Germany? Your mindless threadcrap confuses me.
no, your crap confuses me! they made Ford in Germany now? where can i buy a Ford made in Germany? haha
lithdoc
Happy Member
posted: May. 29, 2012 @ 10:08p
netnerd said: wp746911 said: or you won't buy Fords made in Germany? Your mindless threadcrap confuses me.
no, your crap confuses me! they made Ford in Germany now? where can i buy a Ford made in Germany? haha
In Germany, you can. But your ignorance about not buying American vehicles is astounding. It is a baseless example or prejudice, nothing more. Fords sold in USA are made in USA, Canada, Mexico, and Turkey. But a lot of your your wonderful, reliable, and otherwise great import appliances are also made in countries like Mexico.
upazwitts
Cranky Member
posted: May. 30, 2012 @ 1:05a
drmyk said: My brother bought a hail damaged car at a significant discount, damage was disclosed but obvious. Glass had been replaced, but the sheet metal was dimpled like a Titleist NXT. Maybe it improves his aerodynamics.
Doubtful that it improved the aerodynamics... he should have shopped around until he found one dimpled like a Titleist Pro V1.
gludlow
Senior Member - 1K
posted: May. 30, 2012 @ 4:07a
We got a screaming good deal on a new can that was damaged in a hail storm. As long as the paint isn't broken, the damage is purely cosmetic and factory warranty can still apply. It's a good way to buy a car if you don't mind the dents and dings.
lousygolfer
Senior Member - 3K
posted: May. 30, 2012 @ 2:51p
We had a bad hail storm last year and a local Ford dealer was advertising a Hail Sale. I stopped by and asked what sort of discount they would offer, after repairing the dents. A salesman pompously told me "Oh, no, we're not repairing the dents. That's up to you whether or not you want to do that." He then leaned in closer and with a special, slimy carsalesman's pseudo-conspiratorial, phony "I'm on your side!" look, he said in a hush-hush voice "We're offering a $1,500 discount on these cars, but I think I can get you closer to $2,000 off if you buy today." I told him "Are you joking? I could get that sort of discount on a perfectly good new car. Ten years ago it cost my insurance company $5,000 to repair similar sorts of hail damage to my car. I wouldn't take a $2,000 discount even if these cars were all repaired. They're damaged cars, worth significantly less than new ones." He gave me a dirty look, mumbled something about "well call me if you change your mind" and walked away.
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