mrblackpcs said: Wow...so a 5 year old Toyota is mide-life? So is that saying they only last 10 years or so? hmmmmm thought people said that lasted forever....

They certainly don't last forever. Previously I have a 2002 Corolla, and I had to replace the whole A/C system in 2005. You can imagine that Toyota is officially off my purchasing list from then on.

leapannie said:Just to name a few..3 day option contract to bring back your car. Lemon Law. As for the finance the banks tell the dealerships how much they can mark the rate up. Most banks only allow 1 to 2 points, not 15. Mr. Black, what makes you an expert of what you are putting on the internet? I see a lot of misinformation on this thread.

What new law refers to the 3 day option? Many states and cities already had these types of protections in for years...also in many case as long as the lender hasnt given final approval a customer could return the vehicle....i've personal witnessed vehicles being returned 45 days later in this situation...However the OP suggests that there are new laws....I'mm very interested in seeing an official link to these said laws...

Not sure how lemon laws are relevant here...again lemon laws are usually determined on a local level...not sure how this pertains to negotiating.

Banks have always regulated rates....i've said this time and time again...nothing new here either

i'm not putting information spefically on the "internet"....its on fatwallet...People here choose to read and discuss what they will...My expertise comes from years of doing...backed by the many years i've spent helping the readers here...Not once has anyone came back and said "Mr Black you really screwed me" Furthermore, misinformation isnt a word...and the connotation here is that I'm giving false information, which I havent...The car industry is fluid....volatile...full of many different people with many different opinions...its up to the individual to choose what advice to follow....it just so happens that I have a long track record of being accurate...

Whats funny to me....comments like these always come from some newbe.....and you guys always come off like some salesman who's trying to put salt in the game...i'm mean come on your best advice is to "If you find a car you like and sit down for about 1 hour you will get a good deal..." then you back it up with "Make it about the car you want , not the deal so much"....come on mr salesman this is dealership speak 101...get em hot for the car so they are easier to negotiate with...I trained many car salesman, I know the game very well...

Can someone let me know how much they paid for 2010 Honda CR-V EX-L 4dr SUV AWD w/Navigation (2.4L 4cyl 5A)? Do you think $30,000 OTD a good price on it (zipcode 60077)? Please suggest me if this is the right price for this vehicle. Thanks.

Is this thread still Active? I don't see any activity here for 4 days now. Can someone answer my question regarding 2010 Honda CR-V EX L Awd w/NAV ? Shall i offer my low ball price $28000 in contrast to the dealer's OTD $30,000 ? Please suggest. Thanks in advance.

Not a known issue

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I cant reproduce it, even with the oddest of inputs

Is your dealer cost field populated correctly?

Since the used car deal thread seems to have died, thought I'd ask here: what exactly is the "used car tool" in the other thread (link is dead)?

Aviro221 said:Since the used car deal thread seems to have died, thought I'd ask here: what exactly is the "used car tool" in the other thread (link is dead)?
I'm not 100% sure, but the "used car tool" was probably a program where you inputted certain information and the program would tell you how much was a good offer.

I'm sorry, but I have no experience with buying used cars.

Mrblackpcs or Ranchopedro might have some advices.

After going through the top 2 google hits when searching for black book car values, I am either not looking in the right place on the sites, or I'm failing at google. Anyone have/know a link to get black book values?

Also, used car question for the car gurus: if a dealership has a car (used) that you're interested in, but is somewhat far away, are you better off attempting to negotiate via email (with mention of something about the car passing your mechanic's inspection), or making the trip there to inspect/test-drive/etc., & then negotiating via email (& possibly making the trip back if you decide the car is a good deal)?

only 2x?

Let Me Google That For You

Aviro221 said:After going through the top 2 google hits when searching for black book car values, I am either not looking in the right place on the sites, or I'm failing at google. Anyone have/know a link to get black book values?

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Carpet Mat Set: $270
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Sound Shield
Sealant Cleaner
Rental Car Assistance
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