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very useful thread, chokaay. In everyone's opinion, which is the best way to choose a DC for nighttime shooting? I bought a Kodak 3.1MP (need to look up the model) & it only fares well when there is so much background lighting. I've never taken it out to the baseball field at night, but that would prob be a good start. In clubs (yes I go to clubs...), the pictures are just so-so & that's with quite a bit of lighting. Does going up to 7MP or more help, or does it depend on the camera. Also, do u think a zoom lens would be of any benefit in this case?? Thanks!


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SeriusBlack said:very useful thread, chokaay. In everyone's opinion, which is the best way to choose a DC for nighttime shooting? I bought a Kodak 3.1MP (need to look up the model) & it only fares well when there is so much background lighting. I've never taken it out to the baseball field at night, but that would prob be a good start. In clubs (yes I go to clubs...), the pictures are just so-so & that's with quite a bit of lighting. Does going up to 7MP or more help, or does it depend on the camera. Also, do u think a zoom lens would be of any benefit in this case?? Thanks!

No, those factors will not influence nightshots. You should find a camera that has a strong AF light, longer flash range, and/or Night Mode setting. If your camera has manual controls, you can also tweak your camera to take better low-light shots by increasing the ISO (at the expense of quality) and/or prolonging the shutter time (at the expense of blurring the picture... tripod is recommended). You can also read reviews on the cameras you're interested in, and see what the reviewer has to say about night shots with that particular camera.


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Hey everyone!

Just signed up to the forum, and i need some advice badly. I am going to africa soon for a few months and I need a digital camera. Some info: I cant afford to spend more then 300, 350, with my old camera i took too many blurry shots, I am not that skilled a camera user, i probably need something that doesnt eat batteries, etc. I have found a deal for a canon powershot SD400 for 250.00 . Should i take this? Please, any help would be much appreciated


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Do not buy a Kodak DX4900. The plastic battery doors quit latching and per Kodak its not a defect. Though these are all over eBay for $25.00 now. I originally purchased for $400.00 three years ago.


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Steves Digicams - Best Cameras - not always up to date, and generous reviews - but a good way to get some quick idea of the options

Amazon Guide - Compact Digital Cameras

Amazon Guide - Waterproof Cameras

dpreview has the best reviews, IMO

Message edited by: buzzy on 2006-03-12 20:56:17 CST
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My .02 on the new Panny FZ7 !!! Love it ! I was an Olympus fan, until I was ready for a super zoom one, but they failed with putting a model with IS. The reviews pointed me to the FZ7, and a little shopping around (just over $300 - thanks to FW !) make me do the jump.

What a difference !!! Even night shots or low ligth are amazing !


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I am so relieved to see this topic here - I've spent the past couple days trying to do research on buying a digital camera - finally time to admit I just want one - and this looks like it is a really good resource. This digital camera shopping thing is a lot harder than i thought! So, thanks


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Great post! Thanks!

great links in the thread.

I love the buying guide [ buying guide ] at Digital Photography Review.

The people at this site are professionals, and their reviews are much more in depth that at other sites. Check out your camera at this site before purchasing. They have forums devoted to different brands, as well as SLRs versus point-and-shoots.


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Very comprehensive and extremely useful. Thanks to all who have posted info here. I'm in the market for my first digital SLR ... and am finally going to retire my hand-me down minolta x700. Off to follow all the suggestions here...


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i want to maximum resolution of digital camera,about 10 mega pixles,so its possible?


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8 mega pixels is quite high... you can get that with the Canon Rebel XT, the Canon 20 and 30 series, as well as from other makers. But I know Canon the best.

Going higher is rare and much more expensive.

The Canon 5D is 13 Mega Pixels. Retail is about $3,200. Find it on line (from Fat Wallet deals) for as low as $2,450 or so. Like from Dell or One Call.

The biggest bad boy for us mere mortals is the Canon 1DS-MKII --- 16 mega pixels. About $6k or $7k. Not sure, since out of my price range.

(There is a 39 mega pixel back for medium format cameras. I guess it is $60k to $100k. Again, that is my guess.)


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I'm a newbie to this site, but I had a few thoughts on this subject that I wanted to throw out there.
First, it is very true that more megapixels do not guarantee a better picture. Sensor size, lens size, image stabilization and lens quality make a difference too. Even newer processing chips can help in some situations, especially bad lighting.

In the above posts, and on many forums people still talk a lot about the drawbacks of proprietary flash memory cards for cameras. But all memory card prices have come down. For someone on the low end of the camera market, this still can make a difference, but in the midrange it is in my opinion not so important anymore, unless you decide to shoot RAW images* Even with a 6MP camera or so, in highest JPG mode a 1GB card can store about 300 pictures. And, the price range (worst case) for a 1GB ranges from around $20 for CF and SD, to around $40 for Memorystick and xD. You can get better deals on all, but my point is that if you just need 1 or 2 cards, it is only a $20-40 surplus for Memorystick or xD- so if you find a Sony camera you like I think it can be a fine choice.

* Shooting RAW is usually slower and takes up a lot more space in memory cards, but it gives you a little higher quality and most importantly lets you make many decisions about exposure, etc. after when you can sit at the computer instead of on the fly.

Be a little wary of Steve's Digicams as Buzzy implied. I love his 3D view of cameras, but he almost never really condemns a camera, and basically finds something good to say about every camera. Another thing is unfortunately, a lot of the reviews on Amazon or Epinions of cameras are pretty useless. Many of the bad reviews are from people who are just not techie enough to understand any digital camera, and many of the good reviews are from people who just aren't very picky. If you have broadband, I would look at a lot of images taken with the camera you are considering. I like the DPreview forums for reviews and comments usually from a little more experienced users.

And one final warning. The demand on eBay for digital cameras is really high and they tend to sell for a lot more than they are worth. Older models often have subtle drawbacks, and reviews for cameras are often a "snapshot of a period in time." A camera that has great reviews a few years ago may not be as good as a camera with great reviews today. You might get a lot more solid construction (more metal, etc.) on an older camera, but you tend to lose out on speed, battery life and in-camera noise processing. Cameras sold as new often aren't, or aren't US models with warranty. Also a lot of the dealers that show up on the low end of price comparisons sites are hard to deal with- they call you and say the warranty will be extra, the battery and charger that come with the camera will cost extra, etc. If you refuse to buy extra stuff some will say the item is out of stock, and they sometimes send non-US models.
If your credit card company is good at taking your side on disputes, and you don't mind fighting/haggling it may work out, but it is probably easiest to try to research your seller by asking a place like this, checking resellerratings.com and the BBB, and checking the internet for complaints.


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Can someone give me a quick recommendation for a reasonably-pricd digital camera that you know for sure does NOT have a delay between when you push the button and the picture actually gets taken? I now own my second digital camera and I've had the same problem with both. I hear it's quite common, but I have to wait a full five seconds and sometimes I lose the picture. Surely some camera maker has fixed this problem. Thank you!

Toni
Scrimpin' and Savin' for a Wedding and a House!


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Scrimpin said:Can someone give me a quick recommendation for a reasonably-pricd digital camera that you know for sure does NOT have a delay between when you push the button and the picture actually gets taken? I now own my second digital camera and I've had the same problem with both. I hear it's quite common, but I have to wait a full five seconds and sometimes I lose the picture. Surely some camera maker has fixed this problem. Thank you!


A lot of the delay in most cases comes from the focus. Sony and Canon are better than most, but your best bet may be to get a camera with a manual focus. Once you set the manual focus, most cameras will take pictures quickly. A site that gives good tests of the speed of various camera functions is http://www.imaging-resource.com/ .
Here is an example of the info:
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/A510/A51DATA.HTM
Another possibility is to half-press the button to focus before you want to take the picture, and then press it when you are ready.


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more 2 cents

the fuji f30 with the $50 rebate is a steal ($200) for a low light capable camera - see any review and look at pophoto.com this month for a nice article. It really does take 500 shots on a charge and really can take picture in dim light without all the noise that other cameras have at iso 200. Who cares about the xd cards - buy a couple when you find a good price.

In super zooms the Lumix really does kick butt. It does have noise but not as bad as some of the reviews complain about.

In a super zoom with wide 28-300 you get the Fuji s6000 without IS - it can notch up the ISO and do fine - if you are shooting a moving target IS won't help, higher ISO and shutter speed will.

In a dslr - the pentax k10d looks like it would kill Nikon and Canon ( and sony ) with its great price, IS, dust removal, 10 meg sensor, weathertight body .... Do not think that because you have lenses from your film camera that you will ever use them on your new dslr. They fit, but they are not optimum.

Also- use a polarizer and and 2 stop ND filter when needed, Digital cameras do not have the dynamic range of cheap film and you either blow out the highlights, lose the shadows, or both. Fuji does have a better sensor for this problem.

And if you really want good photos cheap - buy an Olympus Stylus Epic for $80 and throw some film in it. The kodak Portras are nice and the Fuji slide film is amazing...... To develope a 36 exposure roll with double prints might cost $10 for 5x7's, on an inkjet that would be three times the price


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The thing that Amazon is good for is if you can find someone who knows what they are talking about. Especially when the camera is first released and there are no reviews out yet.

It's also sometimes good for little tidbits of info (global voltage charger? adapter size for lens attachments?)

The user reviews and [manufacturer name] Talk forums at dpreviews.com can be useful in the same way, but you have to read a lot to find the good stuff.

CNET has comments that are just wrong too often to take them seriously. You really have to doublecheck what they say.

As Drumple notes, buying an older model is rarely a real bargain, except maybe for the best of the last generation when you get a good deal ... cameras are still getting better rapidly in terms of processing, power consumption, features, interface, etc.

Lots of new models will come out in the next couple months. Anyone thinking of spending serious money should keep an eye on dpreview for announcements of what's coming out.

Message edited by: buzzy on 2006-12-17 16:34:58 CST
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fateye said:more 2 cents


In a dslr - the pentax k10d looks like it would kill Nikon and Canon ( and sony ) with its great price, IS, dust removal, 10 meg sensor, weathertight body ....


the jpeg images are reportedly soft on the k10d, both in general and specifically compared to the nikon d80, canon 30d, and sony a100. (source: dpreview.com) if you get one, plan to shoot RAW. all of the aforementioned cameras received "highly recommended" ratings, although there is a note on the k10d review that the camera just barely made the rating.


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Has anyone bought or used a Nikon s7c? I have short time to return an unopened gift (a decent Canon 7mp complete pkg), and have been drawn to the s7c since I saw it 6 months ago. Up to date technology, but especially like the wifi. I usually wouldn't go for flatbody, (old school on lenses I guess). But the write up on this looks mighty fine.
Thank You.
Thanks for the thread Chokaay.

Message edited by: got2grow on 2007-01-27 22:41:51 CST
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got2grow said:Has anyone bought or used a Nikon s7c? I have short time to return an unopened gift (a decent Canon 7mp complete pkg), and have been drawn to the s7c since I saw it 6 months ago. Up to date technology, but especially like the wifi. I usually wouldn't go for flatbody, (old school on lenses I guess). But the write up on this looks mighty fine.
Thank You.
Thanks for the thread Chokaay.


One big flaw with the Nikon S7c is that the VR / IS (image stabilization) it has is basically fake - it isn't optical image stabilization, instead it is a much inferior digital stabilization. If you read the reviews, the image quality even not considering that issue doesn't match most Canons. But I really do like the appearance of it. Maybe the next round of cameras that Nikon announces will be more interesting- they once made some of the best digital cameras (the Nikon 5700, 990, and 4500 were excellent in their time), and they make great SLRs.


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Its very useful thread for novice users.
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