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Great topic, thanks OP.

Does anybody out there know if these strategies will work with Sears TV or other appliance sales?


Thanks


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lawlis1 i have a question about BB employee discounts. My friend just started wokring on the sales floor and getting his discounts soon. Is there a certain ammount he can get per month? or certain items he can get without it raising too much suspicsion that hes getting stuff for his family and friends. Because we are planning on gettings, tv's, cameras, dvds and all that but not sure to spread it out in weeks or months or if it would be okay to do it all in one day. i just dont want to get my friend in trouble but i want to take advantage that he can get stuff at cost


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It wouldn't surprise me if it works at Sears. Test the waters; just ask if they will do a package deal on a purchase that includes accessories and warranty. Just remeber that accessories are exactly that - high margin items; not furniture or other items. There is virtually no mark-up on DVD players, printers, and other devices but there is a ton of mark-up on cables, ink, etc.
As I stated before this will work at Circuit City also. The reason CC and BB are both good places for this is that they are trying to sell these items with the most vital ingredient missing - a commission salesperson who can sell them instead of a $8.00/hr kid who could care less.
On a side note don't get me wrong about some of these accessories and warranties. You do need better/different cables for your system - you just dont need ones at 65% mark-up. These high-end cables are indeed top-notch, the problem is they exceed the quality of wiring within the component you are connecting so their value is limited by that. Ideal is a cable that matches or slightly exceeds what is in the unit; look for cales such as AR (Acoustic Research) or on the web I like a site called bluejeanscables.com. Also, the warranties on DLP, LCD projo and LCOS can be worthwhile as they do typically cover bulb replacement. The bulbs are typically rated at 5,000 hours so expect to need one every 4 years or so. They do average $250 for a lamp so coverage is not a bad deal. The sad thing is companies are making up to 50% mark-up on the plan. They WILL NOT negotite price of the warranty but as per the point of this post they will drop the price of the product to effectively discount it.
Maybe a combo on the ticket of things you will return and things you may keep will serve you best. I am truly an expert on all things audio and video and will help on this if you would like.

L.


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CHAOSMAN said:lawlis1 i have a question about BB employee discounts. My friend just started wokring on the sales floor and getting his discounts soon. Is there a certain ammount he can get per month? or certain items he can get without it raising too much suspicsion that hes getting stuff for his family and friends. Because we are planning on gettings, tv's, cameras, dvds and all that but not sure to spread it out in weeks or months or if it would be okay to do it all in one day. i just dont want to get my friend in trouble but i want to take advantage that he can get stuff at cost

Be very careful with this one - they take employee discount abuse VERY SERIOUSLY. I had to fire several valued emplyees for this one.
Policy states that immediate (father, mother, sister, brother ONLY) family can use the discount. You really have to use your judgement on this one - it has to be reasonable usage for the people intended. I cannot really give you a guideline but spreading it out would likely be the safest and multiple purchase of the same time of item would likely make him jobless. Just use your head.
Also, consider this - DVD's have no mark-up if bought as a new release and are typically loss-leaders sold below cost. Skip the discount for these. Employee cost is also uselss on most computer products as employee price is 5% over cost and most computers have less mark-up then 5%. The number they use as cost to figure discount is 'weighted' as well; it is not a true reflection of what they pay for the item. Even using the discount it is possible to shop the price and match or beat it. I have sold TV's to present BB employees at a lower price then their discount - I can do this because I work with a true cost number to start with.

This help?

L.


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Oh sorry - I missed one other question. There is no set limit to how much he can by per month, etc.

I just thought of one other thing; for the truly great deals tell him to go on the computer at work, go into employee toolkit and look in an area called vendor accomodations. This is where employees can order select items direct from the vendor at HUGE savings below even true cost. They do limit how many and that varies by vendor but some of the prices are incredible. They do this so you'll know, love and sell more of their product.

L.


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lawlis1 said:Oh sorry - I missed one other question. There is no set limit to how much he can by per month, etc.

I just thought of one other thing; for the truly great deals tell him to go on the computer at work, go into employee toolkit and look in an area called vendor accomodations. This is where employees can order select items direct from the vendor at HUGE savings below even true cost. They do limit how many and that varies by vendor but some of the prices are incredible. They do this so you'll know, love and sell more of their product.

L.
Circuit City has the same thing.


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Circuit City has the same thing

Yes they do; I remember them having employee deals with Onkyo, Harmon Kardon, Polk, Infinity, Monster and a few more.

BTW audio has by far the biggest mark-up - I bought a $300 Onkyo receiver through accomodation for $180.

L.


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Thank you OP, and welcome to fw family


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I'm guessing that the negotiating room on a washer like the Whirlpool Duet would be really slim? I'm assuming they have really low margins, and I would probably do better using Dealpass GC's at 20% discount at a Lowes or HD. I believe there are signs that indicate they are "special order", though I might be wrong.


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lawlis1 said:CHAOSMAN said:lawlis1 i have a question about BB employee discounts. My friend just started wokring on the sales floor and getting his discounts soon. Is there a certain ammount he can get per month? or certain items he can get without it raising too much suspicsion that hes getting stuff for his family and friends. Because we are planning on gettings, tv's, cameras, dvds and all that but not sure to spread it out in weeks or months or if it would be okay to do it all in one day. i just dont want to get my friend in trouble but i want to take advantage that he can get stuff at cost

Be very careful with this one - they take employee discount abuse VERY SERIOUSLY. I had to fire several valued emplyees for this one.
Policy states that immediate (father, mother, sister, brother ONLY) family can use the discount. You really have to use your judgement on this one - it has to be reasonable usage for the people intended. I cannot really give you a guideline but spreading it out would likely be the safest and multiple purchase of the same time of item would likely make him jobless. Just use your head.
Also, consider this - DVD's have no mark-up if bought as a new release and are typically loss-leaders sold below cost. Skip the discount for these. Employee cost is also uselss on most computer products as employee price is 5% over cost and most computers have less mark-up then 5%. The number they use as cost to figure discount is 'weighted' as well; it is not a true reflection of what they pay for the item. Even using the discount it is possible to shop the price and match or beat it. I have sold TV's to present BB employees at a lower price then their discount - I can do this because I work with a true cost number to start with.

This help?

L.


thank very much for this info L i will take it into consideration. you are an asset to fw.

Nick


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Y2KFalcon said:I'm guessing that the negotiating room on a washer like the Whirlpool Duet would be really slim? I'm assuming they have really low margins, and I would probably do better using Dealpass GC's at 20% discount at a Lowes or HD. I believe there are signs that indicate they are "special order", though I might be wrong.

Since I'm still hanging at my computer today here's another reply. So you know usually I'm busy and replies will take 1-2 days...

You are correct in stating the margin to be skinny on that one. As it would be alot of work for nothing to work a deal at BB and then go shop it just do it the other way around. Find out the best deals you can get through the places you named and then go to BB and run up a ticket with warranty, new hoses and a garbage disposal (they wont take the $ off the disposal, they are graded on that by $ as an accessory sale). If they mark down the Duet below your best price buy it, if not then don't.
I say do this last because you should only negotiate a deal with the intention of buying if you get the result you want.

L.


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thank very much for this info L i will take it into consideration. you are an asset to fw.

Nick


Thank you very much Nick... good god, I have crossed to the dark side

Now so everyone knows as I previously stated I work for a Video Specialty company. We sell most brands that BB and CC do. I am not out to ruin retail, just to help buyers get a better deal at places which do nothing to earn your business.
I will sell a TV at 10% over cost to earn a customers business but feel that to be a fair profit as I have and utilize the kknowledge to help you make the best decisions. It's not uncommon that I sell a customer a less expensive set then they came in for based on their needs. As you can imagine my referral business is very good

L.


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ive got a few questions?

im a new hire and ive got 25 days til my discount kicks in. first thing im going to do is checkout vendor accomidations.

what are some of the useful items with the highet markups?


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Interesting, I've worked for best buy (427 - frederick) for about 2 years now, and never seen this. Our store has a strict stance on no haggling, and I've never seen that fly. Maybe if you're dealing with a manager directly, but if you're dealing with a regular prod we wouldn't want to risk getting in trouble, we'd rather have the sale walk. We're non commissioned, we don't get bonuses if the numbers are great or worse, so "**** it".


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BB charge a 10% restocking fee on certain items? could you tell me what items the restocking fee apply too? is the restocking fee only for open items? i don't want to try this on a DLP tv and get hit with a restocking fee if something doesn't go and i have to return the DLP tv.


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orion2087 said:Interesting, I've worked for best buy (427 - frederick) for about 2 years now, and never seen this. Our store has a strict stance on no haggling, and I've never seen that fly. Maybe if you're dealing with a manager directly, but if you're dealing with a regular prod we wouldn't want to risk getting in trouble, we'd rather have the sale walk. We're non commissioned, we don't get bonuses if the numbers are great or worse, so "**** it".

I was told by a former BB employee that everyone is non-commissioned except for the home entertainment department. Maybe this is how they were able to get the discount on the TV.


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chadwick626 said:ive got a few questions?

im a new hire and ive got 25 days til my discount kicks in. first thing im going to do is checkout vendor accomidations.

what are some of the useful items with the highet markups?


I'm not sure about the useful part - I don't know what you need...
Typically the best discounts are on audio gear; specifically receivers and speakers. I would think there could be a few good discounts on televisions and appliances as well as a few computer accessories like sound cards, etc.
One benefit I used to use a lot was going on hpinfolabs. com. You take e-learning type things on there and accumulate points towards HP products. You can then buy the item with your BB discount and redeem the points for a rebate which often makes the item free. It is perfectly legit to use employee price and your HP points.

L.


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orion2087 said:Interesting, I've worked for best buy (427 - frederick) for about 2 years now, and never seen this. Our store has a strict stance on no haggling, and I've never seen that fly. Maybe if you're dealing with a manager directly, but if you're dealing with a regular prod we wouldn't want to risk getting in trouble, we'd rather have the sale walk. We're non commissioned, we don't get bonuses if the numbers are great or worse, so "**** it".

I suppose it's possible that some stores 100% dont haggle, but more likely is you're just not seeing it.
When a manager signs off a CPO (the form used to write up the discount) for the reason he's not gonna put 'bundling so I look good'. You'll see a reason more like price match a competitor, etc.

This does, however, raise a good point I just thought of - which managers will most likely discount a sale. In my experience GM's, Customer Service and Product Process managers will not while the Sales Manager, Home Theater Area Manager or PC Area Manager will. Customers should look at their name tags to see their chances of getting a deal.

You're right; the managers do not bonus from warranties and accessories. They bonus 50% from volume and 50% from margin goals. Selling accessories and warranties create both but discounting to get it doesn't. It takes place because if the Sales, HT or PC managers don't hit their goals eventually they won't get any form of paycheck, much less a bonus.

L.


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qaz1001qaz said:BB charge a 10% restocking fee on certain items? could you tell me what items the restocking fee apply too? is the restocking fee only for open items? i don't want to try this on a DLP tv and get hit with a restocking fee if something doesn't go and i have to return the DLP tv.

Sure. The restocking fee applies to desktops, laptops, cameras and camcorders. These are the most popular 'rental' items so restocking fees are only on them. TV's do not have a restocking fee which is kind of dumb - a lot of people buy a nice TV for the superbowl and return it right after (hint, hint).

L.


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snake253 said:orion2087 said:Interesting, I've worked for best buy (427 - frederick) for about 2 years now, and never seen this. Our store has a strict stance on no haggling, and I've never seen that fly. Maybe if you're dealing with a manager directly, but if you're dealing with a regular prod we wouldn't want to risk getting in trouble, we'd rather have the sale walk. We're non commissioned, we don't get bonuses if the numbers are great or worse, so "**** it".

I was told by a former BB employee that everyone is non-commissioned except for the home entertainment department. Maybe this is how they were able to get the discount on the TV.


No one is on commision in the store. They dropped it entirely in 1989. That is sad because managers can make a bonus but the guy serving you has no incentive beyond being allowed to keep his job. Some of the vendors even pay spiffs intended for the salesman. My guess is someone sitting at a desk in corporate is keeping those.
So you know Circuit City isn't commision either. They dropped it in 2003 by firing their top 4000 salespeople and converting the lower earners to hourly.

L.


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