I wonder if those morons, who wasted all that time standing in line for Windows 95 back then, ever regret for their lost time? Wasting so much time for something so buggy that is so insignificant 5 years later. It's not like by having that windows 95 the first day it was released gonna change their lives significantly or anything. Wait wait wait, it does by crashing their machines a lot!!

onion said:Windows 98se rules. There're some pretty good third party service packs out there. I always keep it as a second OS on my PC for those old programs that dont run in XP.

Oh ya, before Win XP I had Windows 98se running for about a month at a time without any noticable slow downs at all.

Maybe I'll bust out the P233 and to a clean install of Win98SE and see how it runs. Hopefully a 233MHz CPU and 96MB RAM is sufficient . Hmm, I bet if I put in a faster hard drive (it has an old 6GB Quantum Fireball...4200 RPM?) it'll be pretty decent. That'll be my project computer later on.

I never got the hang of dual-booting. I know you're supposed to install the older OS first but I never wanted to go throught the hassle. So what did I do? I tried to install Win2000 Pro on a separate partition and it screwed up my existing WinXP install . For now, I'm perfectly happy with just one OS.

I love WinXP, it's much more stable and it uses your computer's resources more efficiently - at least to me it does.

S105dude said:I never got the hang of dual-booting. I know you're supposed to install the older OS first but I never wanted to go throught the hassle. So what did I do? I tried to install Win2000 Pro on a separate partition and it screwed up my existing WinXP install . For now, I'm perfectly happy with just one OS.Dude, for a simple, foolproof dual-boot option, just install the second OS to a second physical hard drive, and toggle between the two from BIOS Setup.

First of all it was 10 YEARS ago, not 5, that Windows 95 came out. And do you know why people stood in line? Because they were tired of the idiosyncrasies of Windows 3.11 for Workgroups. Those of us who used it remember having a bazillion different boot configurations to run every program, tired of not being able to access memory over 640k without loading dos extenders (EMM386, DOS4GW, and CWSDPMI come to mind). There's an incredible limitation to not be able to access memory in protected mode.

Windows 3.1 was all about the art of unloading TSRs (anyone remember the memory-sucking VSAFE TSR?), editing INI files, etc to run even the simplest programs. The advent of Windows Registry was really great, a centralized location for configuring all the programs. Sure it is a mess, but Registry is much better than INI files scattered all over with multiple copies in the search path.

And then there were the nasty WinG Beta drivers (which evolved into DirectX in later years) that were required of even the ugliest looking games.

To me, Win95 was worth every penny and marked a real transition in making the personal computer part of mainstream society. In every way, Win95 certainly lived up to its hype like no other OS has in years. 98/ME/2k/XP were all fairly incremental upgrades in comparison to the jump between 3.1 and 95

Did it make a significant difference in my life? In terms of how I used a computer it did. Before 95, almost every program required a reboot and a unique config.sys and autoexec.bat. Today, I just double-click. . . something that even my mom could do!

Thanks.

ArnoldRimmer said:I wonder if those morons, who wasted all that time standing in line for Windows 95 back then, ever regret for their lost time? Wasting so much time for something so buggy that is so insignificant 5 years later. It's not like by having that windows 95 the first day it was released gonna change their lives significantly or anything. Wait wait wait, it does by crashing their machines a lot!!

I've got to represent for those of over 40 deal hunters - we'll be there, too.

: )

I was quite entertained when reading this entire thread, fun--honestly.

So, I guess BF leaks for CompUSA is still up in the air--somewhere.

and oh, Profile, you certainly told oklbos whats up.

"In some ways, the only "hope" is that they employ their trademark staggered-sale approach -- with some sale items available from 1:00 - 2:00 AM, others from 2:00 - 3:00 AM, etc. This would force customers to cycle in and out of the store, allowing, to some extent, "the wealth to be shared"."

that is a very, very good idea.

and btw, i recently upgraded Win 3.5 to Win 98 lite on a CANON laptop----i think some of you will get a kick out of that. but i rarely use that laptop, play some solitare on it, that's it. i use win98se on a HP computer. and win xp on the "family" computer.

UPDATE! This is from a CompUSA employee over at SD!

"I have just confirmed there will be a 24hr midnight madness sale on black friday this year. also there will be a midnight madness sale on christmas eve.

the highlight of the black friday ad will be a $299 laptop AR and a $99 desktop AR. the ad is 16 pages. there will be tons of FAR stuff and other sundries but the draw is the laptop and desktop. i will post more details when i can snatch the ad. right now it is available for limited viewing.

there will be a sales ad every week until christmas. all of the ads have been preprinted."

edit: just found out the laptop is a Toshiba A-80

in for a few laptops thanks op. good thing it's at midnight give me time/chance to go in line at other places as well! If I can I will get desktop too.

I just read this on www.bf2005.net
Looks like the laptop is $400.
Anyone have any details on teh desktop, sempron + 15" lcd.
Also, any comments on the ati x800 card.


50pk DVD+R Media (After Rebate) $0.00
50pk DVD-R Media (After Rebate) $0.00
512MB DDR RAM Memory for Desktops $19.99
ATi Radeon X800 All-in-Wonder $249.99
Canon SD200 Digital Camera & Photo Printer Bundle $199.99
DVD Player $19.99
eMachines Sempron PC w/ 15" LCD $299.99
Free Game & Accessory Kit With Xbox or PS2 System Purchase $0.00
Free iTrip w/ iPod Purchase $0.00
Free Router, Printer & Software w/ Any Computer Purchase $0.00
GameCube Mario Party 7 Bundle $99.99
Linksys Wireless Router w/ Speedbooster $59.99
Lite-On 16X DVD Burner $39.99
Logitech MX 1000 Laser Mouse $39.99
Memorex 256MB Flash Drive (After Rebate) $0.00
Microsoft Wireless Keyboard & Mouse $14.99
Netgear Wireless-G Router (After Rebate) $0.00
Norwood Micro 19" LCD Monitor $179.99
Portable 7" DVD Player $79.99
Samsung 17" LCD Monitor $149.99
Samsung ML-1740 Laser Printer $49.99
Sandisk Cruzer 512MB Flash Drive $19.99
Selected DVD Movies $4.99
Selected Video Games $9.99
Syntax Olevia 20" LCD TV $299.99
Syntax Olevia 30" LCD HDTV $699.99
Toshiba Celeron Satellite A80-S178TD Laptop $399.99
Viewsonic 27" LCD TV $549.99
Western Digital 120GB External Hard Drive $29.99
Western Digital 200GB Hard Drive $39.99

lush31 said:onion said:UPDATE! This is from a CompUSA employee over at SD!

"I have just confirmed there will be a 24hr midnight madness sale on black friday this year. also there will be a midnight madness sale on christmas eve.

the highlight of the black friday ad will be a $299 laptop AR and a $99 desktop AR. the ad is 16 pages. there will be tons of FAR stuff and other sundries but the draw is the laptop and desktop. i will post more details when i can snatch the ad. right now it is available for limited viewing.

there will be a sales ad every week until christmas. all of the ads have been preprinted."

edit: just found out the laptop is a Toshiba A-80


i'm the disgruntled CompUSA employee forementioned and i posted on slickdeals.net about the Black Friday ad. Go over there and read what I posted so far what is on the ad. The $299 laptop is a Compaq not a Toshiba.

can u provide a sd link? i am not a big fan of sd.