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Go to http://shop.store.yahoo.com/jcmorris/preorder.html,
the laptops are cheap, and you can get another 15% off. I am a little supicisous though. Because if only accept paypal payment. I think if I pay by credit card, it is possible to get money back when there is a fraud. With paypal, I don't know.
What do you guys think?


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No way in hell would I buy something expensive from an outfit that can only manage to accept Paypal.

Furthermore, the objective is not to buy cheap stuff, but to buy good stuff cheap.


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someone has posted this question a while back. But no one seems to brave enough to PRE-ORDER a laptop from them. laptop prices drop fast, even if you get the laptop a while later, the value might drop to street price.


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When it's too good to be true... it usually is...

Just like what rml stated, laptop prices drop fast. So just wait and hopefully the price would fall soon enough.


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with 15%, the price are coming out really good. For e.g. Sony FX390P is pre-order on Sony site also. It's listed at $2299.00 and they are offering for $1632.29 - 15% and on the top of it there is $100 rebate. Wow, $2300 Laptop for $1280 is pretty hot, even if it arrvies after 3 weeks.

akshata


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In order to get the 15% off, you have to pre-paid the whole purchase.

Who knows how long you have to wait. They are borrowing money from us without paying interests.


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I think the pre-ordering is a way to minimize inventory - they won't order from manufacturers or distributors until customers buys the system. Paypal is a way for company to minimize the cost of handling bank charges for charge cards. But you do wonder why a company big enough to offer such vast range of products will not accept bank cards... hmmm. The prices they are offering are HOT but it may be too good to be true. It is NOT supply limited since the economy is slowing down - inventories at the manufacturers should not be an issue.


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I placed an order, they immediately sent payment request to my paypal account, then I hesitated again. Who had experience in getting money back from paypal?
I mean, just in case...


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Called my CC company and they told me that if paypal is the agent handling the transaction between supplier XYZ and you (as the consumer)... any charges you may have received without services or products can still be disputed. The CC company can help. So... at least this is what my CC company told me - you should check with your CC company before making any paypal transaction just to be safe.

I'm still confused to why it is preorder and takes so long before you get the products - the computer industry (CPU, LCD display, RAMs... etc) are NOT in constrain right now.


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From Paypal's Terms of Service]

Credit Card Transactions: The Buyer Protection Policy does not replace or reduce any other consumer rights Users may have, including chargeback rights that may be granted by a User's credit card issuer. PayPal is the merchant of record with respect to all credit card transactions through the PayPal service to purchase goods or services. As such, we afford customers the rights and privileges expected of a credit card transaction. You acknowledge that PayPal does not control the outcome of any chargeback decision initiated through a User's credit card issuer.

PayPal encourages all buyer purchase disputes to be filed and resolved through the PayPal dispute resolution process, and reserves the right to terminate or restrict account privileges of buyers who file chargeback complaints without attempting to resolve the complaints through PayPal. If a chargeback claim is initiated, whether as a result of a dispute or for any other reason, the parties agree to provide to any requesting party on a timely basis any and all necessary documentation to resolve any chargeback or dispute. PayPal DOES NOT act as the agent of either party in any transaction or resulting dispute, though PayPal does control the outcome of disputes initiated through the Service's dispute resolution process.

If you receive funds through a PayPal transaction funded with the sender's credit card, in the event the credit card transaction is charged back and you do not qualify for the Seller Protection Policy, you agree to hold PayPal harmless for the chargeback amount and to reimburse PayPal from either your PayPal account or by other means. Although PayPal will vigorously pursue debt collection of any amounts owed to it, PayPal will never make electronic transfers from your bank account without your explicit permission.


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Why not just purchase elsewhere with Amex Blue and price match?


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do let me know if this PM with Blue works.

thanks.


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i believe PM with blue has a $250 limit per transaction.


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Any updates about this company? I'm tempted to buy, but don't want to get ripped off.


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HI EVERYONE! STAY AWAY!

I am new to FATWALLET. But this damn deal I found meself over the summer.
I PRE_ORDERED a Vaio FX-215, Paid them $985 after discount and all. I also had my girlfriend Order one. We both paid through paypal and were supposed to recieve the LAPTOPS in 2 WEEKS.

Guess what, they postponed the 3 TIMES!!!

HERE WERE THE EXCUSES THEY USED:

- We did not order enough to compensate your order
- We will get them next week
- We can upgrade you to another Model
- We are having problems with our distributor
- We are changing distributors
- and on and on.

DAMN! I was so pissed and Supposedly spoke with J.C. Morris himself one day who told me the same thing.

After 3 months!!!

I guess when My Gf and I filled out the Fraud complaint form through paypal they had to pay up or paypal will freeze their account or something.

I got my money back through paypal. And I even got them to includean amount to cover the charge that paypal gave me.


IF IT SOUNDS TO GOOD TO BE TRUE SOMETIMES IT IS!


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PLEASE STAY AWAY FROM "J C MORRIS"
I ordered a SONY VAIO NOTEBOOK PCG FX-290K in July.
The company offers additional discounts for advance payment so I paid them the full amount of this product via wire transfer. The delivery was scheduled after 30 Days.
I never got this product for the next 4 months ... I had to practically email/call them up daily. Finally, I got my money refunded only this month after my lawyer intervened.

PLEASE STAY AWAY!!!


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Thanks, sounds like they just want to hold on to your money for a while.


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I actually ordered a Sony FXA36 laptop from them. Their projected shipping date was 1 month 10 days from the date you place your order. The date finally arrived, and I called them to find out the status. They say that they don't have my order yet and they are going to place the order immediately with one of their distributors. By the way, I had to be on hold over the phone for about 1 hour to get in touch with a representative.

The representative also told me that he will take this issue to "J.C.Morris".

It should be in mail by next Tuesday. I'll keep you all posted as to how it goes.

-Flash.


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If a merchant that only accepts paypal doesn't send off alarm bells, I don't know what does.


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