So I've read on several of the other Dealpass threads about how many of us have been Blacklisted, many of us because of the whole TE fiasco that happened a while back. What I wanted to start this thread for was to give people who have been blacklisted a place to reference what the signs are and any options/solutions they may have available to them. Now, I don't have all the answers as I have have been blacklisted as well and have yet to actualy go through with the options I'd heard. But I can provide the following information and ask some known questions:
You will know you're blacklisted by Dealpass when you go to sign up and it won't let you, giving you the following information:
Please verify the following information before we continue with your request. We are sorry. Your order cannot be processed.[7090]
*All fields are required.
I've since contacted Dealpass and was told it had to do with the TE fiasco in that they told me the computer said I already have an account, so most likely that is what is causing the problem. I was told I would get a call back from a woman in their Consumer Affairs Deaprtment within 48 hours but have not heard anything. I returned the call and left a voicemail with this same woman and have yet to receive a call back in almost a week. Suffice it to say, I don't think they want to address the issue. So other options I have heard on the other threads:
I hear that if you're blacklisted, you should just chose a different address, but keeping same CC number is okay. But because the address needs to match the CC number, you'll need to change the address manually through dealpass or else you won't get your giftcards.
Now, I've heard a couple stories about how it's been successful, but I've also heard that it's a very risky thing to do, that you may not get the refund, etc. My current questions are: has anyone anything to say on this topic? Any other suggestions? How about using a prepaid debit card - I dunno about the address thing though?
I really hope that we can get a good discussion going about this so everyone can enjoy the benefits of these programs. If you have been blacklisted, please use this is as a reference for the future and ask questions you might have, so the other Dealpass threads don't all have sporadic information on this subject.
Additionally, if you have been blacklisted and have had experience getting around this, PLEASE let us know what you have done, your experiences, suggestions, etc.
It's my real hope this discussions works for many of us, and even if you haven't experienced this but have heard from others, please share it with us so we can sort it all out and all have as much information as possible.
Thanks!!
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Are you blacklisted from ALL DealPass programs, or are you just prevented from signing up for TE again since computer says you already had a TE membership recently ?
vrovner
Addicted Member
posted: Nov. 11, 2005 @ 8:24p
As far as I understand from other memberms, when you are blacklisted, you are blocked from joining any of the programs.
Blacklisted on one.. blacklisted on ALL (dealpass). I was on the TE fiasco as well (finger to the now infamously guilty one) but I'm surprised since I'm with Dealpass for quite a while now paying monthly due faithfully.
I don't have a firm answer... I was successful in getting back in using a different address and phone # so I'm not sure it's phone or address or both. I know almost for sure they don't keep track of CC#.
My suggestion to anyone else:
Try just change the phone # (use a cell, work#)
if that fails
Try a slight different address, ie add an "apartment" number.
lifeonitsown
Senior Member
posted: Nov. 11, 2005 @ 9:30p
Here is my deal....
Tried home address, office address, some variations, 4 different CCs, 3 different phone numbers... no go. Says check the address or information missing.
lostdude said: Oh, I just remembered, I used a different email address too. Try that.
The big risk - they are getting info from other means. For example, if you call from your cell phone - they link that # to your account..
I've found this out tonight when I signed up for one of their programs.... got the message - called and tried to use the 2/2 option - and it game me my existing account number.
I'd be VERY careful changing addresses, names, etc. Keep in mind they are getting your info from your CC, and your address and phone # there are something a merchant can pull....
There are big risks to signing up with different addresses, I've seen it get pushed to credit reports....
Huh, I didn't thought it would affect credit rating... I could be wrong but I don't think a merchant can GET ones' address and phone with just a CC#. (actually, I'm almost sure of this). The reverse is true though, a CC user can get a charge's address and phone #. As far as I know they are not using caller ID, unlike some CC company. You have to PUNCH in your phone #.
Maybe I'm just brain dead but I can't think of any possible reason what so ever this would affect credit rating. I can care less about what my credit report regarding any other information except that I pay on time. The Finance forum got some funny post from people who care too much about credit report.
The only real risk I see is losing the 20% credit back. I welcome any correction to my understanding.
I don't believe I said it would affect your rating... I've seen some weird stuff happen. I used on a dealpass site my address, but fully typed out a number (our street address contains a number).
This was on my credit report 2 months later. I'm not saying it will give you bad credit, but that it somehow, magically can get back to the bureaus...
And they are able to validate address, how else would they not ship if your shipping and billing address doesn't match ?
Texas8
Cranky Member
posted: Nov. 11, 2005 @ 11:03p
hey guys I dont understand the whole thing with the credit report thing can you guys go little bit in detail. Like how can they report to credit card I mean if you are paying your stuff on time they can't send it to the credit bureau please reply thannks
psubill78 said: I don't believe I said it would affect your rating... I've seen some weird stuff happen. I used on a dealpass site my address, but fully typed out a number (our street address contains a number).
This was on my credit report 2 months later. I'm not saying it will give you bad credit, but that it somehow, magically can get back to the bureaus...
And they are able to validate address, how else would they not ship if your shipping and billing address doesn't match ?Huh, interesting. I see what you are saying. Just a coincidence, perhaps... maybe you put it somewhere else.
Yes, they can validate address, but it's only a "Yes, Match" or "No, Do not Match". I am actually planning on changing one of my CC to match the address before placing order.
mikesay98
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Nov. 11, 2005 @ 11:37p
My personal wonder is how this would work with a pre-paid debit card? perhaps the address wouldn't be of consequence? or maybe it wouldn't work at all because the address would be the issuer? anyone know how pre-paid debit cards work in detail?
mikesay98 said: My personal wonder is how this would work with a pre-paid debit card? perhaps the address wouldn't be of consequence? or maybe it wouldn't work at all because the address would be the issuer? anyone know how pre-paid debit cards work in detail?My 1st reaction is no, I would not even try it but... on 2nd thought most of those pre-paid debit card does say "use anywhere where #### is used". Assuming it;s successful in signing up... try get one GC and see if they credit back the $5. Go for it
psubill78 said: lostdude said: Oh, I just remembered, I used a different email address too. Try that.
There are big risks to signing up with different addresses, I've seen it get pushed to credit reports....
Where did you hear this info? What do you mean by gets pushed to credit reports? What get pushed to credit reports exactly? Sounds a little fishy to me..
NM - I see you cleared it up a bit in a later post... had me really thinking hard there for a moment.
myAmex said: psubill78 said: All I can tell you...
I had an address that I used ONLY on dealpass (never, ever, ever, ever anywhere else) and it showed up as an address on a recent credit pull...
Too fishy for my taste..
From which company? dealpass?
I'd have to assume so. You know, on your credit report, it shows variations of your name and address. Well, somehow, someway, the credit bureau got the address I used solely on dealpass on my credit report. I've been at this address only since August, and never in my life have ever used that typing of my street address anywhere.
Could it be something else? Sure, anything is possible - do I think it came from DP somehow? Definitely.
Mikeyiscool
Shopaholic Member
posted: Nov. 12, 2005 @ 10:40a
what exactly was the "TE Fiasco"?
dealhunter999
Ancient Member
posted: Nov. 14, 2005 @ 4:44a
Address shows on credit report when credit card companies post it or registered with institute/companies that posts the information to credit report (mainly financial) It does not affect you credit rating. You must have had credit card with another address. How did you for pay your dealpass membership? W/O SSN they will have hard time posting the info to your credit company.
atrain929
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Nov. 14, 2005 @ 7:27a
psubill78 said: myAmex said: psubill78 said: All I can tell you...
I had an address that I used ONLY on dealpass (never, ever, ever, ever anywhere else) and it showed up as an address on a recent credit pull...
Too fishy for my taste..
From which company? dealpass?
I'd have to assume so. You know, on your credit report, it shows variations of your name and address. Well, somehow, someway, the credit bureau got the address I used solely on dealpass on my credit report. I've been at this address only since August, and never in my life have ever used that typing of my street address anywhere.
Could it be something else? Sure, anything is possible - do I think it came from DP somehow? Definitely.
are you employed somewhere that has your address? do you have a phone registered at that address?
there are a million reasons why it would show up on your credit report, and i highly doubt dealpass had something to do with it
You people can conjecture all you want, just as I am, but I can guarantee you, without a doubt, that I have never written, typed, or said that particular spelling of my address on any job application (have not applied for a job in 6+ years) and credit application, or ANYTHING.
psubill78 said: I'd have to assume so. You know, on your credit report, it shows variations of your name and address. Well, somehow, someway, the credit bureau got the address I used solely on dealpass on my credit report. I've been at this address only since August, and never in my life have ever used that typing of my street address anywhere.
Could it be something else? Sure, anything is possible - do I think it came from DP somehow? Definitely.
So, it's not a credit report pull from dealpass. The address was probably reported by your credit card company. Did you use the new address as your billing address or Alternate Authorized Address on file?
myAmex said: So, it's not a credit report pull from dealpass. The address was probably reported by your credit card company. Did you use the new address as your billing address or Alternate Authorized Address on file?
My credit card company didn't have the address on file. Never gave it to them, which is why I believe that dealpass must have reported it to them, which popped it on the credit report.
axjoke
Member
posted: Nov. 14, 2005 @ 9:02a
Mikeyiscool said: what exactly was the "TE Fiasco"?
I'm curious as well. I would like to avoid doing anything that might get me blacklisted. What were people doing here that got so many banned? Hacked link? Multiple accounts?..
vice
Senior Member
posted: Nov. 14, 2005 @ 9:10a
Ok back to topic. So what exactly we should do to get on track? Change email, phone, and address? Which means we need to change one of our CC to new billing address too?
psubill78 said: myAmex said: So, it's not a credit report pull from dealpass. The address was probably reported by your credit card company. Did you use the new address as your billing address or Alternate Authorized Address on file?
My credit card company didn't have the address on file. Never gave it to them, which is why I believe that dealpass must have reported it to them, which popped it on the credit report.
dealhunter999 said: W/O SSN they will have hard time posting the info to your credit company.That is incorrect. Just name and address is sufficient to easily post to a credit bureau, but of course you must usually be an authorized business to submit the posting.
psubill78 said: myAmex said: So how did you order anything from dealpass? The card used for signup was different than the card used for purchasing... The address in question (that shows up on the credit report) was the address used for sign up...
Well, you are confusing me, but I don't think dealpass did anything to your credit report. It was not a pull anyway. I am pretty sure the address was reported by your credit card company.
Did you change the address in your program after you sign up? It doesn't really matter. Dealpass charged you $1 when you signed up which means your credit card company had your new address and they may report it to credit bureau.
montreid
Senior Member - 3K
posted: Nov. 14, 2005 @ 11:20a
The address addition can come from either source (dealpass or the credit card) since dealpass queries the credit card with a different, but closely related address, the credit card company will add that to its system. CC will forward those addresses to the reporting agencies.
IMHO, I highly doubt dealpass is reporting addresses to agencies. One of many reasons is because they don't have your ss# to verify valid data reporting. They definitely aren't pulling because they don't show on the request list on any of my 3 reports over the years.
axjoke
Member
posted: Nov. 14, 2005 @ 12:23p
Mikeyiscool said: what exactly was the "TE Fiasco"?\\
I found information in another thread. To make a long story short. Tool number one took a link to a free 30 day Todays Escapes trial and posted in on some other site. Tool number 2 then took that information from the other site and posted it in the Hot Deals section here. Then 1,000's of newbies signed up (gas cards will always do the trick) for TE and basically order all the cards. TE got pissed and then canceled all the memborships and black listed the new members.
So now some of the more useful (they are extremely useful, just mean more than some other quality contributors) people like Montread and MyExpress? are forced to be more secrative to keep a potential tool number 3 from doing something dumb or to keep the Dealpass eyes that be from finding too much information here.
psubill78 said: myAmex said: So how did you order anything from dealpass?
The card used for signup was different than the card used for purchasing...
The address in question (that shows up on the credit report) was the address used for sign up...Huh, I will post this question to the wiser people over at the Finance forum and see what they say. I just want to know if a merchant can affect non-credit worth information on credit report.
dealhunter999
Ancient Member
posted: Nov. 16, 2005 @ 8:01p
psubill78,Found the answer to the puzzle.
I used emusic.com link to enroll in free 125 songs (currently deal is in HD). I used my gmail a/c and virtual card # from CitiBank.Used virtual card genrator by CITI to auto fill the info.Note that, I have never given my gmail email ID to CITI. I checked my gmail and found that they had send me an email stating that they have updated my email address!!!!
This must have what happened in your case or CC must have got the address from dealpass when they post the charge or validate your info with them.
AAlison
Happy Member
posted: Nov. 16, 2005 @ 8:10p
In my experience, a different/wrong address on your credit report can be a PITA to get rid of, and although it shouldn't directly affect your credit score it might affect your ability to get credit. I had an old address that kept popping up on one of my reports because a credit card I never used kept resubmitting it every time they updated. Until I finally got all that straightened out it was harder for me to get credit. Whenever I applied for a new account, it was denied until they could verify my address which meant I had to send a phone bill in my name or some other verification. Just FYI.
rufusrex
Senior Member
posted: Nov. 28, 2005 @ 9:04a
So.....if you are blacklisted what is the workaround? Anyone?
mikesay98
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Nov. 28, 2005 @ 1:43p
So a light update from me. I decided to purchase a prepaid debit card from citibank, listed here for free after promotional code. I made the mailing address a friend of mine but left the residential address my real one. I figured if I made my residential address my friend's as well, it might be reported to the credit bureaus, since they ask for your social security and lots of other info. Anyway, hope that works and will post when I get the card and if (hopefully) I am successful at joining with it.
mikesay98 said: So a light update from me. I decided to purchase a prepaid debit card from citibank, listed here for free after promotional code. I made the mailing address a friend of mine but left the residential address my real one. I figured if I made my residential address my friend's as well, it might be reported to the credit bureaus, since they ask for your social security and lots of other info. Anyway, hope that works and will post when I get the card and if (hopefully) I am successful at joining with it.
Try to get a phone number from standaphone and use that number to sign up dealpass.
After thinking I was blacklisted for life, I was able to sign up for HomeWorks Plus (thanks for the info myAmex) and Galleria (though a pop-up window). Phone number definitely needs to be different because I wan't able to sign up until I changed it.
vulches
Senior Member
posted: Nov. 30, 2005 @ 12:03p
psubill78 said: You people can conjecture all you want, just as I am, but I can guarantee you, without a doubt, that I have never written, typed, or said that particular spelling of my address on any job application (have not applied for a job in 6+ years) and credit application, or ANYTHING.
It is IMPOSSIBLE for Dealpass to post anything to your credit reports without knowing your SS#. The address must have been reported back to your CC company and they forwarded to the bureaus.
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scrock
Senior Member
posted: Jan. 5, 2007 @ 3:57p
Ok. Newb. Do a search with keyword "Dealpass" at deal discussion forum.
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