A FWer will never buy such useless overpriced crap. As an espresso coffee addict myself, I find the $19.99 6-cup Bialetti stove-top espresso maker from Amaz0n to be excellent for all occasions. Also, historically this is the most famous espresso maker.
DylanG
Member
posted: Aug. 10, 2007 @ 2:09p
A stove top espresso maker, commonly called a Moka Pot is not the same as a real pump driven machine. Espresso is created by pushing water through ground coffee at high pressure. Steam based devices, whether manual like the Moka Pot or automatic like sub $100 "espresso" makers, don't built enough pressure to make top quality espresso.
You may not care about the difference and you may not think a real espresso machine justifies it's price. But there is a difference and it's obvious to an experienced and picky espresso drinker.
The Starbucks Barista for $199 is a good deal. It's about as cheap as you can get for a pump driven machine that is capable of making real espresso.
g10ny said: A FWer will never buy such useless overpriced crap. As an espresso coffee addict myself, I find the $19.99 6-cup Bialetti stove-top espresso maker from Amaz0n to be excellent for all occasions. Also, historically this is the most famous espresso maker.
Obviously your "all occasions" are not the same as my "all occasions". I use my "useless overpriced crap" Gaggia Baby D espresso maker in my office at work. As I do not have a stove (and thus, no stove-top) in my office, I cannot use the $19.99 espresso maker that you referenced. Thus, the Baby D works perfectly for my "occasion".
In my opinion, FW is about finding the best deals on the items that you either need or want. It is not merely about being cheap for cheaps sake. I got a great deal on the Baby D thru a thread here on FW.
The 10% coupon code shown on the HomeClick home page does not apply to Delonghi products. Some members do not like HomeClick but I have had good luck buying from them.
so how did your recent aquisition of an expensive grinder turn out? does it work without making a mess?
. It's not as neat as my superautomatic was but that is to be expected. I do get a few stray grinds but nothing bad at all. I have only used it for a week now so I am still perfecting my technique. At 2 doubles a day I should have it down soon.
WDEagle said: g10ny said: A FWer will never buy such useless overpriced crap. As an espresso coffee addict myself, I find the $19.99 6-cup Bialetti stove-top espresso maker from Amaz0n to be excellent for all occasions. Also, historically this is the most famous espresso maker.
Obviously your "all occasions" are not the same as my "all occasions". I use my "useless overpriced crap" Gaggia Baby D espresso maker in my office at work. As I do not have a stove (and thus, no stove-top) in my office, I cannot use the $19.99 espresso maker that you referenced. Thus, the Baby D works perfectly for my "occasion".
In my opinion, FW is about finding the best deals on the items that you either need or want. It is not merely about being cheap for cheaps sake. I got a great deal on the Baby D thru a thread here on FW.
WDEagle You might have a point here. I mean if it's about the magical steam effect, it's great. But neither do I have the space to store it, nor do I see the reason to spend 10x more for it. I guess the winning move would be to convince your employer to purchase it, unless you plan to make your own home a restaurant or a party house. Or, simply, you can really afford this. But in this case the FW deals are somewhat irrelevant.
Going back to my sweet Lavazza black coffee
Oh, and a small adddenda: there are stove-top-like electric espresso makers, I had one made by DeLonghi, it worked for 2 years in my office, until it broke (it had some plastic parts).
g10ny said: A FWer will never buy such useless overpriced crap. As an espresso coffee addict myself, I find the $19.99 6-cup Bialetti stove-top espresso maker from Amaz0n to be excellent for all occasions. Also, historically this is the most famous espresso maker.
ROTFLMAO !!!
so where is the list of rules of what a fatwalleter's should and shouldn't do? is there a manifesto?
g10ny said: WDEagle said: g10ny said: A FWer will never buy such useless overpriced crap. As an espresso coffee addict myself, I find the $19.99 6-cup Bialetti stove-top espresso maker from Amaz0n to be excellent for all occasions. Also, historically this is the most famous espresso maker.
Obviously your "all occasions" are not the same as my "all occasions". I use my "useless overpriced crap" Gaggia Baby D espresso maker in my office at work. As I do not have a stove (and thus, no stove-top) in my office, I cannot use the $19.99 espresso maker that you referenced. Thus, the Baby D works perfectly for my "occasion".
In my opinion, FW is about finding the best deals on the items that you either need or want. It is not merely about being cheap for cheaps sake. I got a great deal on the Baby D thru a thread here on FW.
WDEagle You might have a point here. I mean if it's about the magical steam effect, it's great. But neither do I have the space to store it, nor do I see the reason to spend 10x more for it. I guess the winning move would be to convince your employer to purchase it, unless you plan to make your own home a restaurant or a party house. Or, simply, you can really afford this. But in this case the FW deals are somewhat irrelevant.
Going back to my sweet Lavazza black coffee
Oh, and a small adddenda: there are stove-top-like electric espresso makers, I had one made by DeLonghi, it worked for 2 years in my office, until it broke (it had some plastic parts).
I would suggest that there might be space to store it if you were to pull your head out of your ...
I don't need your permission or approval to buy anything that I need or desire. FW has been very very good to me. One of it's few negatives is members like you that think they need to tell other members what to do. Thankfully, your type members are few and far between.
g10ny said: WDEagle said: g10ny said: A FWer will never buy such useless overpriced crap. As an espresso coffee addict myself, I find the $19.99 6-cup Bialetti stove-top espresso maker from Amaz0n to be excellent for all occasions. Also, historically this is the most famous espresso maker.
Obviously your "all occasions" are not the same as my "all occasions". I use my "useless overpriced crap" Gaggia Baby D espresso maker in my office at work. As I do not have a stove (and thus, no stove-top) in my office, I cannot use the $19.99 espresso maker that you referenced. Thus, the Baby D works perfectly for my "occasion".
In my opinion, FW is about finding the best deals on the items that you either need or want. It is not merely about being cheap for cheaps sake. I got a great deal on the Baby D thru a thread here on FW.
WDEagle You might have a point here. I mean if it's about the magical steam effect, it's great. But neither do I have the space to store it, nor do I see the reason to spend 10x more for it. I guess the winning move would be to convince your employer to purchase it, unless you plan to make your own home a restaurant or a party house. Or, simply, you can really afford this. But in this case the FW deals are somewhat irrelevant.
Going back to my sweet Lavazza black coffee
Oh, and a small adddenda: there are stove-top-like electric espresso makers, I had one made by DeLonghi, it worked for 2 years in my office, until it broke (it had some plastic parts).
Yes I can simply afford it and since when was Fatwallet about only the cheapest? I'm not sure where the list is of relevant prices for deals - can you point me in the right direction? I can't find the part where it's only about posting the cheapest possible price on non-specific items.
I'm sorry you can't afford it but that doesn't mean it's not a good deal. You sir, are an ass.
This seems to be a good discussion for the Finance forum. Well, I guess i can cave in for a $200 item, no problem, if it's about affordability. The problem is I can live without it for now, and, as I said, I fail to see the need for a 10x times bonus just for a 12 bar frother.
Oh, and I'm not an ass, I'm a cheap ass. But thank you for the remark.
jray225 (Staff)
Moderator
posted: Aug. 12, 2007 @ 8:47p
Check your egos at the door please and stop the personal attacks.
HokieOkie
Senior Member
posted: Aug. 12, 2007 @ 8:55p
dkong said: So, dkong...how is your addiction going?
I have no desire/intention to quit.
Thattaboy! Are you roasting yet?
HokieOkie
Senior Member
posted: Aug. 12, 2007 @ 9:02p
DylanG said: A stove top espresso maker, commonly called a Moka Pot is not the same as a real pump driven machine. Espresso is created by pushing water through ground coffee at high pressure. Steam based devices, whether manual like the Moka Pot or automatic like sub $100 "espresso" makers, don't built enough pressure to make top quality espresso.
You may not care about the difference and you may not think a real espresso machine justifies it's price. But there is a difference and it's obvious to an experienced and picky espresso drinker.
The Starbucks Barista for $199 is a good deal. It's about as cheap as you can get for a pump driven machine that is capable of making real espresso.
Just to correct Dylan:\ Moka pots like g10NY prefers do NOT make espresso at all...it simply brews strong coffee. Espresso is extraction at very specific temperatures,pressure, duration and volume. THAT is why one spends obnoxious amounts of money to attain decent results, nevermind consistency.
HokieOkie
Senior Member
posted: Aug. 12, 2007 @ 9:04p
jray225 said: Check your egos at the door please and stop the personal attacks.
Umm..your talking to a bunch of caffeine-addicts...this is simply what we do!
HokieOkie said: jray225 said: Check your egos at the door please and stop the personal attacks.
Umm..your talking to a bunch of caffeine-addicts...this is simply what we do! Agree... my heart beats like crazy
HokieOkie
Senior Member
posted: Aug. 12, 2007 @ 9:09p
g10ny said: HokieOkie said: jray225 said: Check your egos at the door please and stop the personal attacks.
Umm..your talking to a bunch of caffeine-addicts...this is simply what we do! Agree... my heart beats like crazy
I get the shakes when I'm need'in a fix, and the jitters when I'm 'under'...so I'm always rock'in!
HokieOkie
Senior Member
posted: Aug. 12, 2007 @ 9:15p
dkong said: stream said: Did you purchase this in the coffee shops? I've never seen it before.
Try the bigger Starbucks shops.
I didn't buy it. I bought a Saeco Aroma a year ago from Bloomingdales for $149 - see this thread
@dkong
WRT to that old thread, throw away that silly frother, and learn to use the Aroma. Pull yer shots first. Allow the boiler to cycle and shut off. 'Fart' extraneous water from the wand into a waiting cup, then bury that wand smack in the middle of your pitcher of COLD whole milk and crank that mofo up high. As much action as you can muster until the swirl is regular and consistent, then slowly lower the pitcher until you get some air (SWOOSH!), then back up just a little so tip stays just under the surface. Foam/microfoam will form as if by magic. Gently lower pitcher as your foam grows, heat up to thr red mark on your thermometer, then kill it. Simple as that!
HokieOkie said: dkong said: stream said: Did you purchase this in the coffee shops? I've never seen it before.
Try the bigger Starbucks shops.
I didn't buy it. I bought a Saeco Aroma a year ago from Bloomingdales for $149 - see this thread
@dkong
WRT to that old thread, throw away that silly frother, and learn to use the Aroma. Pull yer shots first. Allow the boiler to cycle and shut off. 'Fart' extraneous water from the wand into a waiting cup, then bury that wand smack in the middle of your pitcher of COLD whole milk and crank that mofo up high. As much action as you can muster until the swirl is regular and consistent, then slowly lower the pitcher until you get some air (SWOOSH!), then back up just a little so tip stays just under the surface. Foam/microfoam will form as if by magic. Gently lower pitcher as your foam grows, heat up to thr red mark on your thermometer, then kill it. Simple as that!
I do that exactly, but it makes big bubbles which burst within a few seconds. I used to have a cheap Melitta steam espresso maker that made lousy espresso, but the frother worked great - small bubbles that made the foam very thick. The hand frother I now use works pretty well.
HokieOkie said: dkong said: So, dkong...how is your addiction going?
I have no desire/intention to quit.
Thattaboy! Are you roasting yet?
Nope, I haven't gotten around to it yet. And I'm living in an apartment currently, so I'm not sure if it'll be possible.
HokieOkie
Senior Member
posted: Aug. 19, 2007 @ 1:20p
dkong said: HokieOkie said: dkong said: stream said: Did you purchase this in the coffee shops? I've never seen it before.
Try the bigger Starbucks shops.
I didn't buy it. I bought a Saeco Aroma a year ago from Bloomingdales for $149 - see this thread
@dkong
WRT to that old thread, throw away that silly frother, and learn to use the Aroma. Pull yer shots first. Allow the boiler to cycle and shut off. 'Fart' extraneous water from the wand into a waiting cup, then bury that wand smack in the middle of your pitcher of COLD whole milk and crank that mofo up high. As much action as you can muster until the swirl is regular and consistent, then slowly lower the pitcher until you get some air (SWOOSH!), then back up just a little so tip stays just under the surface. Foam/microfoam will form as if by magic. Gently lower pitcher as your foam grows, heat up to thr red mark on your thermometer, then kill it. Simple as that!
I do that exactly, but it makes big bubbles which burst within a few seconds. I used to have a cheap Melitta steam espresso maker that made lousy espresso, but the frother worked great - small bubbles that made the foam very thick. The hand frother I now use works pretty well.
Big bubbles mean too much air..keep the tip buried IN the COLD milk, touch the bottom of the pitcher if ya gotta...only begin to lower pitcher/raise tip once the swirling milk begins to thicken, and the milk level begins to rise, then slowly elevate the nozzle just to the point of 'hiding' inside the foam..breaking the surface is okay maybe once (just to try and find your tip position), but never keep the tip out of the foam for more than a few milliseconds...big bubbles result. HTH.
mandms7 said: Doubt anyone is still reading this, but I bought a Barista back in September/October. However, mine didn't come with the portafilter, and according to Starbucks, the portafilter is still on backorder. I haven't been able to use this thing since then, which is getting really frustrating.
Has anyone else who needed or ordered a portafilter get theirs recently?
Sounds like you got a floor model. I'd call corp. and complain. Or you can try the store first - maybe they have a spare.
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