As a valued Best Buy customer, we want to inform you of an error that will appear in the September 23, 2007 Best BuyTM ad. On the front cover we mistakenly listed the price of the 50" Panasonic Plasma TV (TH_50PZ77U- 8501711) at $1709, after $90 savings. We intended to advertise the 42" Panasonic Plasma TV (TH-42PZ77U-8501757) at $1709, after $90 savings.
Best Buy will not be honoring this price on the aforementioned 50" Panasonic Plasma TV.
We apologize for any inconvenience, and we will offer a $100 Instant Rebate on all Plasma Televisions from Sunday, September 23, 2007 through Saturday, September 29, 2007. This Instant Rebate will be deducted from the price you see in the store, including our regular sale prices.
Thank you for your understanding. We look forward to seeing you in our store soon.
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posted: Sep. 21, 2007 @ 10:42a
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Right on! I was wondering if anyone else was going to point that out.
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verklempt
Senior Member - 2K
posted: Sep. 21, 2007 @ 10:45a
should have read...
"We are sorry that we made our consumers think for just one minute that our price on electronics would actually be competitive. To make it up to you, we will offer $100 off all plasma TVs which will still end up priced hire than almost any retailer in the market. We will try and convince you though that you should not get a 720p tv and jump up to 1080p for real HD. We will make up stories on how it is better, but really we are just trying to get more money out of your pockets to pay our incredibly clueless sales and management team."
tyrone3971
Cranky Member
posted: Sep. 21, 2007 @ 10:48a
I'm not liking this trend where retailers rip off consumers first then offer apology savings.
boober
Senior Member - 6K
posted: Sep. 21, 2007 @ 10:50a
Best Buy needs to get hit for deceptive practices like KB Toys did (although the "hit" ended up being nothing more than a sale for them.. they probably made money on it...) I personally believe they do this stuff on purpose to generate traffic.
Claymore
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Sep. 21, 2007 @ 10:53a
tyrone3971 said: I'm not liking this trend where retailers rip off consumers first then offer apology savings.
Well sure, it's great. Ripped you off once, and THEN apologize by inviting you to come buy something from them. They've been using this tactic ever since the GeForce 3Ti product release preorder scam; Maybe sooner.
fvfquaker
Senior Member - 6K
posted: Sep. 21, 2007 @ 10:56a
Only time I shop at BB is when they have price mistakes! bastards caught on this time around
qcumber98
Pickled
posted: Sep. 21, 2007 @ 11:03a
Only time I shop at BB is when I have Best Buy Bucks! Shove it up their asses.
I love how you people expect them to give you a TV for free otherwise they're a ripoff. They made a printing error, they could simply tell you "shove off, we're not honoring that", they could simply pull all of those TVs off the shelves and tell you they're out of them and not honoring rain checks, or they can say "sorry, our mistake, but we'll give you $100 off any Plasma".
None of you were in any way harmed by their error, so get over yourselves about being victimized by their "deceptive practices"
tuan2
Shopaholic Member
posted: Sep. 21, 2007 @ 11:32a
The latest one is Epson? $45 store credit.
Claymore said: tyrone3971 said: I'm not liking this trend where retailers rip off consumers first then offer apology savings.
Well sure, it's great. Ripped you off once, and THEN apologize by inviting you to come buy something from them. They've been using this tactic ever since the GeForce 3Ti product release preorder scam; Maybe sooner.
imstuner
Broke Member
posted: Sep. 21, 2007 @ 11:44a
huh
denblagoi
Frivolous Member
posted: Sep. 21, 2007 @ 11:44a
PinwiZ said: I love how you people expect them to give you a TV for free otherwise they're a ripoff. They made a printing error, they could simply tell you "shove off, we're not honoring that", they could simply pull all of those TVs off the shelves and tell you they're out of them and not honoring rain checks, or they can say "sorry, our mistake, but we'll give you $100 off any Plasma".
None of you were in any way harmed by their error, so get over yourselves about being victimized by their "deceptive practices"
Couldn't agree more, BUT BEST BUY SUCKS ANYWAY like the previous poster mentioned
overpriced and clueless.
PaLLY
Senior Member
posted: Sep. 21, 2007 @ 11:45a
Green for the update. I wont be going there next week.
advocatus
Senior Member - 2K
posted: Sep. 21, 2007 @ 11:47a
PinwiZ said: I love how you people expect them to give you a TV for free otherwise they're a ripoff. They made a printing error, they could simply tell you "shove off, we're not honoring that", they could simply pull all of those TVs off the shelves and tell you they're out of them and not honoring rain checks, or they can say "sorry, our mistake, but we'll give you $100 off any Plasma".
None of you were in any way harmed by their error, so get over yourselves about being victimized by their "deceptive practices"
I think the 'take home' message here is that this isn't the first time they've done this or similar events... yes accidents happen. Accidents happening frequently, people begin questioning motives. That is all these people are saying, that and expressing yet more frustration for a retailer that doesn't seem to respect their customers (that is based on years of interaction with BB and simply on this printing mistake).
"We are sorry that we made our consumers think for just one minute that our price on electronics would actually be competitive. To make it up to you, we will offer $100 off all plasma TVs which will still end up priced hire than almost any retailer in the market. We will try and convince you though that you should not get a 720p tv and jump up to 1080p for real HD. We will make up stories on how it is better, but really we are just trying to get more money out of your pockets to pay our incredibly clueless sales and management team."
you forgot the overpriced monster cables or the like.... that they try to sell you
like last time i heard this BB guy selling a 25 dollars USB cable to this old poor lady.... oh man they have no soul!
nascarfrk
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Sep. 21, 2007 @ 12:00p
So if I buy this advertised Plasma at Circuit City today can I still use my CitiBank rewards card to pricematch to WorseBuy next week ? I may give it a go.
free888
Senior Member
posted: Sep. 21, 2007 @ 12:01p
Wonder if the $100 applies to open box as well....?
QUICKAVE
Senior Member - 2K
posted: Sep. 21, 2007 @ 12:06p
fake ads and now no monopoly game!! guess getting rid of many ccities and CompUSA's is going to their heads! they are now the MONOPOLY AND OWN THE SPACE!
VerbalK
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Sep. 21, 2007 @ 12:11p
How do you suggest I redeem this. They still have that 42" Hitachi Plasma for 979 (same as Circuit City). I'm figuring out the best way to stack coupons and discover/ebates Cash Back (it sucks that the AAA coupon won't work online for CC, though I'm thinking I could get it in person, though I'd like to confirm it in MD before I drive to tax free DE)
NoMoneyInMyWallet
Tired Member
posted: Sep. 21, 2007 @ 12:12p
verklempt said: should have read...
"We are sorry that we made our consumers think for just one minute that our price on electronics would actually be competitive. To make it up to you, we will offer $100 off all plasma TVs which will still end up priced hire than almost any retailer in the market. We will try and convince you though that you should not get a 720p tv and jump up to 1080p for real HD. We will make up stories on how it is better, but really we are just trying to get more money out of your pockets to pay our incredibly clueless sales and management team."This is incomplete. Need to add:
"Since we are giving you $100 off, we strongly recommend that you take that money and put it towards the purchase one of our over-priced, money in our pockets service plans. As a convenience to our customers, we will automaticlly add the most expensive service plan at time of purchase."
shingletingle
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Sep. 21, 2007 @ 12:17p
PinwiZ said: I love how you people expect them to give you a TV for free otherwise they're a ripoff. They made a printing error, they could simply tell you "shove off, we're not honoring that", they could simply pull all of those TVs off the shelves and tell you they're out of them and not honoring rain checks, or they can say "sorry, our mistake, but we'll give you $100 off any Plasma".
None of you were in any way harmed by their error, so get over yourselves about being victimized by their "deceptive practices"
You hit the nail on the head.
tomdc
Senior Member
posted: Sep. 21, 2007 @ 12:31p
WHOA BUDDY- This is a withdrawal of a future offer!?!?
Difference here to the susposedly unintentional price mistakes retailers make to get folks in and then switch is it's been brought to their attention- they say it's "wrong", but they're going to publish it anyway. Definition of intentional fraud is knowing something is invalid and offering it anyway. Hope some states nail em on this- it's taking bait and switch to new levels.
knickdigger
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Sep. 21, 2007 @ 12:46p
"...and to apologize, we at Best Buy will offer you a FREE one-year Rewardz Zone membership..."
kronus
Ancient Member
posted: Sep. 21, 2007 @ 12:47p
tomdc said: WHOA BUDDY- This is a withdrawal of a future offer!?!?
Difference here to the susposedly unintentional price mistakes retailers make to get folks in and then switch is it's been brought to their attention- they say it's "wrong", but they're going to publish it anyway. Definition of intentional fraud is knowing something is invalid and offering it anyway. Hope some states nail em on this- it's taking bait and switch to new levels.Ads are not offers to sell, they are invitations to come in and bid. Everyone needs to take a class in contract law and become an informed consumer. Even if this was an offer, they have rescinded it before it even became effective, and they have the right to do that. BB might be a crappy company that sells $25 USB cables to 80 year old ladies, but they're not doing anything illegal yet, and that's why we hate them.
Bmr4life
Senior Member - 10K
posted: Sep. 21, 2007 @ 12:53p
PinwiZ said: I love how you people expect them to give you a TV for free otherwise they're a ripoff. They made a printing error, they could simply tell you "shove off, we're not honoring that", they could simply pull all of those TVs off the shelves and tell you they're out of them and not honoring rain checks, or they can say "sorry, our mistake, but we'll give you $100 off any Plasma".
None of you were in any way harmed by their error, so get over yourselves about being victimized by their "deceptive practices"
As much I hate BB, I have to agree with you.
tomdc
Senior Member
posted: Sep. 21, 2007 @ 12:59p
Dude I am an expert in contract law and believe me it is illegal to publish an ad you admit in advance is invalid. You don't make the offer- ie withdraw the ad. BB does this toooo much for coincidence. "We're going to make a phony offer on our front page but the million people coming in for it will get a wonderful $100 off any of our plasmas that are priced hundreds over what others sell them for- we'll convince you once you're here!" BB is starting to stand for Big for Britches. TOMDC,Esq.
tomdc
Senior Member
posted: Sep. 21, 2007 @ 1:02p
An ad IS an offer- why they have to have fine print about withdrawing, quantities, etc. And they say they're going to make an invalid offer! Just don't make the f***ing offer!"Bids" r 4 eBay. Ads are offers, with fine print. You don't need a Black's Law Dictionary for the definition of fraud- it's in Webster's.
tb40nd
Thrifty Member
posted: Sep. 21, 2007 @ 1:10p
knickdigger said: "...and to apologize, we at Best Buy will offer you a FREE one-year Rewardz Zone membership..."
hey, don't knock the bestbuy reward zone program... i bought up quite a few of those bestbuy clearance laptops and ended up with over $200 in reward zone certs! add that to the $50 concession coupon they handed out for the Lenovo laptop fiasco and I was able to grab a Panasonic DMC-TZ3 digicam for almost nothing after a PM to CC AND Madden 08 for $10!
i'm sure there are some who like OD's rewards but i just hate the way you get zilch in the way of reward points on pc purchases.
riznick
Acrobatic
posted: Sep. 21, 2007 @ 1:10p
tomdc said: Dude I am an expert in contract law and believe me it is illegal to publish an ad you admit in advance is invalid. You don't make the offer- ie withdraw the ad. BB does this toooo much for coincidence. "We're going to make a phony offer on our front page but all you million people coming in for it will get a wonderful $100 off any of our plasmas that are priced hundreds over what others sell them for- we'll convince you once you're here!" BB is starting to stand for Big for Britches. TOMDC,Esq.
You are somewhat right here. If they can stop or alter the AD within a reasonable means, then they must. Otherwise the advertisement may be considered fraud. They can argue that they had no way to reasonably stop the ad. This is probably true since the ads were already supplied to the distributors and being prepared for distribution.
My issue is with the amount of mistakes in these advertisements. It seems like every week now someone has misadvertised price mistake. If it becomes a common problem, then these companies should be liable for their mistakes. Hire a new editor for your ads and fire the current one who makes all these mistakes.
mach6
Ancient Member
posted: Sep. 21, 2007 @ 1:12p
I am sure their ads are printed in advanced by weeks to months. If someone didn't catch it, it's their fault.
tek2k
Senior Member
posted: Sep. 21, 2007 @ 1:13p
Bmr4life said: PinwiZ said: I love how you people expect them to give you a TV for free otherwise they're a ripoff. They made a printing error, they could simply tell you "shove off, we're not honoring that", they could simply pull all of those TVs off the shelves and tell you they're out of them and not honoring rain checks, or they can say "sorry, our mistake, but we'll give you $100 off any Plasma".
None of you were in any way harmed by their error, so get over yourselves about being victimized by their "deceptive practices"
As much I hate BB, I have to agree with you. people who hate best buy are pathetic.
muevelonyc
Senior Member
posted: Sep. 21, 2007 @ 1:14p
tomdc said: Dude I am an expert in contract law and believe me it is illegal to publish an ad you admit in advance is invalid. You don't make the offer- ie withdraw the ad. BB does this toooo much for coincidence. "We're going to make a phony offer on our front page but the million people coming in for it will get a wonderful $100 off any of our plasmas that are priced hundreds over what others sell them for- we'll convince you once you're here!" BB is starting to stand for Big for Britches. TOMDC,Esq.
Dude lawyers talk like that? DUDE! Totally rad dude!
Noahbody123
Senior Member
posted: Sep. 21, 2007 @ 1:16p
And if you believe that a real "expert in contract law" actually says 'Dude, I am an expert in contract law..." then you deserve whatever scam you fall for. But then again free legal advice is always worth what you paid for it.
tomdc
Senior Member
posted: Sep. 21, 2007 @ 1:21p
Noahbody123 said: And if you believe that a real "expert in contract law" actually says 'Dude, I am an expert in contract law..." then you deserve whatever scam you fall for. But then again free legal advice is always worth what you paid for it.
J.D. UGA Law 1975 (studied under Wellman who wrote the hornbook on Contract Law and drafted the Uniform Commercial Code), Diploma Hague Academy of International Law 1976 in international private law, 28 years practice in international contract law. Dude.
kenbo
Frivolous Member
posted: Sep. 21, 2007 @ 1:21p
Noahbody123 said: And if you believe that a real "expert in contract law" actually says 'Dude, I am an expert in contract law..." then you deserve whatever scam you fall for. But then again free legal advice is always worth what you paid for it. Maybe he aced that class last semester.
EDIT: Many semesters ago.
AvusM3
Senior Member
posted: Sep. 21, 2007 @ 1:22p
qcumber98 said: Only time I shop at BB is when I have Best Buy Bucks! Shove it up their asses. So...what's the ratio of a Best Buy Buck to a Schrute Buck? --- Sorry, couldn't resist
BTW First post!!!
kringan
Shopaholic Member
posted: Sep. 21, 2007 @ 1:25p
tek2k said: people who hate best buy are pathetic. WHAT ?????????????????????????? What are you doing on Fatwallet ?
Fauntleroy
Ancient Member
posted: Sep. 21, 2007 @ 1:26p
tomdc said: Dude I am an expert in contract law...
Dude looks like a...moron.
lawadvocate
Member
posted: Sep. 21, 2007 @ 1:27p
Noahbody123 said: And if you believe that a real "expert in contract law" actually says 'Dude, I am an expert in contract law..." then you deserve whatever scam you fall for. But then again free legal advice is always worth what you paid for it.
Hey Newbie take a hike DUDE...take your discussion about what you think a contract lawyer should sound like somewhere else
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riznick
Acrobatic
posted: Sep. 27, 2007 @ 5:31p
JimsEmptyWallet said: tomdc said: Every jurisdiction has different laws on false advertising. Under contract common law they are about to make an offer, couched in tons of fine print, they will not honor, and seem to be making no effort to stop it's publication.
Agree about different laws in different jurisdiction but can you give us just one example? For someone that has over 25 yrs of law practice, surely naming one law should not be an issue.
I don't know what to think but I am pissed off at Worst Buy for other reasons (such as them selling my instore pickup item before I get to the store)
Ok, here is the issue. If BestBuy could reasonably cancel their advertisement, then legally they must. If they choose to run with the advertisement, then it can open up a lot of consumer complaints and class actions. Just because it has been printed, is not a good enough reason not to cancel.
If we can prove this was planned, then they will get in trouble. If we can prove that they could reasonably cancel the add, then they will get in trouble. Otherwise, they are safe.
People asking for the laws should look up variations of false advertising and bait and switch. Also pure contract law.
There are a lot of laws. How about this one in california:
California Business and Professions code 17500.5.b Any person, firm, corporation, or association who, by means of such false or negligent advertisement or publicity, induces any individual retail purchaser and consumer to enter any place of business designated therein seeking to buy any article so advertised or publicized, and then refuses to sell to such person the article at the price advertised in any quantity then available for sale on said premises, shall be liable to each person so induced and refused, for the losses and expenses thereby incurred, and the sum of fifty dollars ($50) in addition thereto.
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