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MrLateNite
- Senior Member - 2K
posted: Feb. 15, 2008 @ 9:25a
atlanticfisherman said:Why Amish don't use electricity As Christians, they believe that modern conveniences are a way of conforming to the world which God instructed us not to do, and that the conveniences also keep us from spending time with God. As a modern Christian, I of course respect the Amish, although I'm not quite sure if God meant not to use conveniences, as long as we make room for him.
Many people don't understand why the Amish don't use electricity and find it difficult to relate to this type of lifestyle. The Amish have purposely chosen to live their lives separated from the rest of the world at large. While they are not totally isolated from society, they are about as isolated from the influences of modern technology as any group of people can be. The Amish do not accept the use of electricity because they consider it to be a direct connection to the very world that they are trying to avoid. When electric lines began making their way across the country and into every home and business around the world, the Amish made a very conscious decision to not allow electric lines to be brought into their homes and businesses. Because electricity comes from a main power grid that connects all the lines together, the Amish decided this was a connection to the evils of the modern world and chose not to be a part of it. The fact that they have stuck to their guns for the past one hundred years or so shows their tenacity and strength of conviction and faith.
Over the years, the Amish have come up with some pretty inventive ways to compensate for their lack of electric equipment. For instance, Amish dairies rely on the sale of milk and dairy products to the surrounding community to sustain themselves. When the government began regulating dairy production, they required that all dairy farmers refrigerate their milk while it was being stored on the farm. This was a major problem for the Amish farmers because they were prohibited by the Amish church from using electric powered milk coolers. So, instead they found that they could use diesel generators to power the milk coolers to keep the milk properly refrigerated. At some point, the Amish realized that the generators could also be used to compress air which was stored in tanks to be used for powering water pumps while they were still being used to power the milk coolers. This meant that the Amish no longer needed to rely on windmills to get their water pumped from the wells. This compressed air idea was then expande and today the Amish use compressed air to run washing machines, sewing machines, hand mixers, blenders, and power tools. In addition, the diesel generators are also used to charge car batteries which the Amish use to power headlights and taillights on their buggies, which are now required by law. These portable batteries are also used to power smaller appliances such as sewing machines used to make Amish quilts, fans, glue guns, and even cash registers in the Amish family businesses. And it's statements like that (no offense to the poster) that makes me dislike "religion" more and more because it aims to "control" those that are "brainwashed" by it. Looking into those statements: So the Amish don't want to be connected with the outside world because getting electricity would connect them to the grid meaning a tighter connection to the outside world? However, they have roads that connect them outside. They make and produce things (furniture and milk) and sell them to the outside world, meaning taking money in for them--another connection. They are then required to abide by the country's laws and regulations, and in turn must bend their standards as such. I'm sorry, if you're talking adding incandescent electric light bulbs, sealed-lead-acid batteries, diesel powered engines into your community, not to mention Fossil fuels to generate electrons to power lights, pumps, refridgerators, YOU ARE CONNECTED TO the rest of the world. So you've severed the steel power line that would feed you electrons more cleanly, and instead replaced it with expensive generators and limited fuel supply and pollute the air MORE than accepting them via another method. They're using the same electricity just in a dirtier way. It just makes no sense. I understand they had to bend due to goverment requirements, but at the same time, if your faith is so strong, accepting a power line into a single facility to power your pump, cooler and battery charger has to be better than buying fuel and burning it creating the same net result. |
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Drew510
- Addicted Member
posted: Feb. 15, 2008 @ 10:50a
Ha!! My loser FIL wanted to buy one of these for me. I knew it was a scam (or at the very least, very sketchy) and I would have let him buy one if it wasn't for the fact that my MIL would be the one actually footing the bill. |
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ZenNUTS
- Broke Member
posted: Feb. 15, 2008 @ 11:11a
ohiocp said:This is a real company. The thing must work because they ship out 17 to 18 trailers full of them everyday. They are built in a small town in Ohio. The parent Company Patent Health also sells coins through world reserve monetary exchange and health supplements through the parent name. And Universal Media Syndicate markets everything, again another company owned by Patent Health. So again, not really a scam I just think they look cheesy, but if you do not care about looks, I heard they work.hey there shill. Sure they "work", just as good as any electrical heater which are all 100% efficient except you don't have to pay $250 for something that's $15 in Lowes right now (Lowes is clearing out all small heaters @50%). This "miracle" is horse shit. |
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chocula
- Broke Member
posted: Feb. 15, 2008 @ 5:01p
You only get the reduction in an Amish Paradise. Calling Weird Al, where are you? |
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pepkak
- New Member
posted: May. 19, 2008 @ 12:52p
I ordered one and it works great for what I need it for heating a room 24x18. I also hooked up a AC voltage meter to the heater at the rate I pay a KW. I ran it on level 3 just below high for 6 hours and it cost $1.05. I didn't have to run my oil burner 6 times for the night only 2 times for 30 min. I'm saving Oil which is at 4.00 per gallon for house oil. If its used for main reason to heat a room it works great and it's not like the hot coils like those portable heaters for 49.99 and safer with kids. I really don't care if Amish built mantle or not or if heater from CHINA what not from China. I have called customer service and everytime got them on the line with no problems. Hell I order a second one for living room for 298.00 no shipping cost no tax. Oil is going to be 5.00 a gallon for heating oil so if I can run this for 3 hours I probably will save hundreds of dollars next year. http://www.amishfireplaces.com/Order/shoppingCart.cfm?promocode=HEBO |
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Racerbob
- Senior Member
posted: May. 19, 2008 @ 1:05p
Thanks for the report pepkak. Too bad that folks give you red for an honest assessment of this unit. I suppose that if they haven't tried it themselves that they should all be experts on this , huh ? A local heating company here sells these things. I am considering looking into getting one for next winter. |
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ZenNUTS
- Broke Member
posted: May. 19, 2008 @ 1:09p
Racerbob said:Thanks for the report pepkak. Too bad that folks give you red for an honest assessment of this unit. I suppose that if they haven't tried it themselves that they should all be experts on this , huh ? A local heating company here sells these things. I am considering looking into getting one for next winter.Honest assessment, from a 1st time poster that use a "voltage meter" to measure power? You don't need to know the product to know it doesn't save any more power than a $15 heater. You just need to know basic electricity and physic. For god sake, how retard are the people out there? |
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yobuttin
- Senior Member
posted: May. 19, 2008 @ 3:29p
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PMonkeyDishwasher
- Senior Member - 2K
posted: May. 19, 2008 @ 8:55p
lostdude said:For god sake, how retard are the people out there? Quoted for irony. |
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VSK6
- Thrifty Member
posted: May. 20, 2008 @ 12:15p
from theday.com: Give The Cold Shoulder To 'Amish Heater Ad' Published on 12/13/2007 in Home »Editorial »Letters to The Editor As a great admirer of the “low-carbon-footprint” Amish community, it was disappointing to read the advertisement for a “miracle heater” that appeared Dec. 10 in The Day. This was, at best, bad science and, at worst, deceptive advertising. The “amazing” output of 5,119 Btu (British thermal units) is misleading. Btu is an amount of energy, not a power. As such, a sufficiently large candle can produce this amount of energy, given long enough, but it will hardly heat your house. If, as I suspect, this is an hourly output, then it does pale into comparison with, for example, a moderate-sized woodstove, which typically outputs about 50,000 Btu per hour, or about 10 times the output of this device. As an electric heater, this device will obey the first law of thermodynamics and output heat at a rate in watts equivalent to its rate of use of electricity. From the company's Web page, that corresponds to a maximum 1,500-watt power setting, which, with electricity in Connecticut running at a delivered cost of about 18 cents per kilowatt-hour, would correspond to a daily continuous-use cost of around $6.48 or around $200 per month. It is hardly the way to save “tons of money” or “slash heat bills.” If one is serious about saving on this year's heating bill, improve insulation, reduce drafts, invest in more efficient oil, wood or coal heaters or, better still, install high-performance heat pumps and/or passive solar-heating systems. When all else fails wearing warmer clothes indoors also helps considerably. Andy Foley, Ph.D., P.E |
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