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FOR HEAT SURGE, LLC 3939 EVERHARD RD., CANTON OH 44709

Amish man's new miracle idea helps home heat bills hit rock bottom

Miracle heaters being given away free with orders for real Amish fireplace mantles to launch the new invention that slashes heat bills, but Amish craftsmen under strain of Christmas rush impose household limit of 2

Saves money: uses less energy than a coffee maker, so leave it on day and night and never be cold again

By Mark Woods
Universal Media Syndicate

(UMS) Everyone hates high heat bills. But we're all sick and tired of turning down the thermostat and always being cold.

Well now, brand new HEAT SURGE miracle heaters are actually being given away free to the general public for the next two days starting at precisely 8:00 a.m. today.

The only thing local readers have to do is call the National Distribution Hotline before the 48 hour deadline with their order for the handmade Amish Fireplace Mantles. Everyone who does is instantly being awarded the miracle heaters absolutely free.

This is all happening to launch the new HEART SURGE Roll-n-Glow Amish Fireplace that actually rolls from room so you can take the heat with you anywhere. That way, everyone who gets them first can immediately start saving on their heat bills.

For the first time ever, portable Amish fireplace are being delivered directly to the doors of all those who beat the deadline.

These miracle fireplaces have what's being called the 'Fireless Flame' technology that gives you the peaceful flicker of a real fire but without any flames, fumes, smells, ashes or mess. Everyone is getting them because they require no chimney and no vent. You just plug them in.

The Fireless Flame looks so real it fools everybody but it has no real fire. So what's the catch? Well, the soft spoken Amish craftsmen who hand make the mantles are imposing a strict household limit of 2 during the strain of the Christmas rush.

"We can barely keep up ever since we started giving heaters away free. Now that it's really getting cold outside, everyone's trying to get them. Amish craftsmen are working their fingers to the bone to be sure everyone gets their delivery in time for Christmas," confirms Timothy Milton, National Shipping Director.

"These portable Roll-n-Glow Fireplaces are the latest home decorating sensation. They actually give you a beautifully redecorated room while they quickly heat from wall to wall. It's the only way to dress up every room, stay really warm and slash your heat bills all at the same time," says Josette Holland, Home Makeover Expert to the rich and famous.

And here's the best part. Readers who beat the 48-hour order deadline are getting their imported hi-tech miracle heaters free when encased in the real Amish built solid wood fireplace mantles. The mantles are being handmade in the USA right in the heart of Amish country where they are beautifully hand-rubbed, stained and varnished.

You just can't find custom made Amish mantles like this in the national chain stores. That makes the solid oak mantle a real steal for just two hundred ninety-eight dollars since the entire cost of the miracle heater is free.

This free giveaway is the best way to finish all of your holiday shopping, because it's one of the year's hottest Christmas gifts. The HEAT SURGE Roll-n-Glow Fireplace gives you all the beauty and warmth of a built-in fireplace but it can also save you a ton of money on heating bills.

Even people in California and Florida are flocking to get them so they may never have to turn on their furnace all winter. And since it uses less energy than a coffee maker the potential savings are absolutely incredible.

"We are making sure no one gets left out, but you better hurry because entire communities of Amish craftsmen are straining to keep up with Christmas orders. For now, we have to turn away dealers in order to let readers of today's newspaper have two per household just as long as they call before the deadline," confirms Milton.

It's a really smart decision to get tow right now because for only the next 48 hours you get both miracle heaters free. That's like putting five hundred bucks right in your pocket and you can save even more money on your monthly heating bills.

"Everyone's calling to get one but those who are getting their shopping done are surprising the whole family by getting two. So when lines are busy keep trying or log onto

amishfireplaces.com. We promise to get to every call. Then we can have a delivery truck out to your door right away with your beautiful Amish made Roll-n-Glow Fireplace," Milton said.

"You'll instantly feel bone soothing heat in any room. You will never have to be cold again," he said.

On the worldwide web: www.amishfireplaces.com

. GENUINE AMISH MANTLES MADE IN THE USA: Amish craftsman are pleased that Heat Surge officials have provided proof of certification of the coveted UL Listing for the miracle heater. Now, everyone wants to save money on heat bills this winter, so entire Amish communities are working from the crack of drawn to finish. These fine solid wood Amish made fireplace mantles are built to last forever. The solid oak mantle is a real steal at just two hundred ninety-eight dollars because all those who beat the order deadline by calling the National Hotline at 1-800-716-2782 to order the fireplace mantles are actually getting the imported hi-tech Fireless Flame HEAT SURGE miracle heaters for free.

HEAT SURGE

Fireless Flame
How It Works HEAT SURGE miracle heater is a work of engineering genius from the China coast so advanced, you simply plug it into any standard wall outlet. It uses less energy than it takes to run a coffee maker. Yet, it produces an amazing 5,119 BTU's. An on board Powerful hi-tech heat turbine silently forces hot air out into the room so you feel the bone soothing heat instantly. It even has certification of Underwriters Laboratories coveted UL listing comes with a full year Money Back Guarantee.

UL LISTED

Hot air comes out
Hi-tech silent heat turbine takes in cold air.

How to get 2 free heaters

The National Toll Free Hotlines are now open. All those who beat the 48 hour order deadline to cover the Amish made Fireplace Mantles and shipping get the HEAT SURGE miracle heaters free.

They have imposed a strict limit of 2 per household. Since some home woodworkers wnat to build their own mantle piece, they are letting people get the imported miracle heater alone for just $249. Or, with the Amish made mantle you get the miracle heater free.

Use the map below to locate the weather zone you live in and call the Hotline number for your zone.

Claim Code: FP664

ON THEIR WAY: Christmas orders have turned country roads into pipelines to the big city delivery system. Everybody wants a fireplace that comes fully assembled with a handmade Amish mantle in oak or cherry and gets delivered by truck right to your door. All you do is plug it in.

EVERYONE LIVING IN THE Frigid Zone: 1
START CALLING AT
8:00 A.M. TODAY
1-800-716-2782

EVERYONE LIVING IN THE
Cold Zone: 2
START CALLING AT
8:30 A.M. TODAY
1-800-504-8089

EVERYONE LIVING IN THE
Frost Zone: 3
START CALLING AT 9:00 A.M. TODAY
1-800-704-6467

HEAT SURGE

Rolls anywhere to throw an instant heat wave with no chimney, no vents, no wood and no smoke

. EASILY ROLLS ANYWHERE: This is the portable Roll-n-Glow Fireplace that easily rolls from bedroom to living room. No vents, no chimney and no tools. Just plug it in.

SAVES ON BILLS: Everyone gets low bills and stays warm and cozy. Naomi Abrams' new Roll-n-Glow Fireplace saves a ton of money and makes her front room look like a million bucks.

. SAVE: The Fireless Flame looks so real it fools everybody but there is no real fire. That makes it safe to the touch. It's where the kids will play and the cat and dog will sleep.

FREE: Get this $249 miracle heater free. It is being given away free to all who beat the 48 hour order deadline for your choice of the oak or cherry Amish Mantles. The free heater comes already encased.

Sounds like a scam to me.

I really hope your other 1043 posts weren't as useless as this one.

First of all, if it's not a scam, it's a satire. But there's no way this can be real. None of it actually says how the thing works, besides the fact that it takes in air, passes it through a turbine, and shoots it back out. I don't see the genius.

Also, they keep saying how it's free if you call in time, but it appears that it's really only free if you buy a "mantle" that goes with it? Without that, it's $249.

Besides that, this website doesn't seem like the most reliable source of news that I've ever seen, so good luck with that.

Joke or scam? Either way, it definitely shouldn't be taken seriously.

Also, whois info for www.amishfireplaces.com (which is full of dead links)

Registrant:
PatentHealth, LLC
3939 Everhard Road
Canton, OH 44709
US

Registrar: DOTSTER
Domain Name: AMISHFIREPLACES.COM
Created on: 26-OCT-07
Expires on: 26-OCT-08
Last Updated on: 29-OCT-07

Administrative, Technical Contact:
Newman, Dickon dnewman@patenthealth.com
PatentHealth, LLC
3939 Everhard Road
Canton, OH 44709
US
3302081111

Sketchtastic!

this part should make you skeptical:

"It uses less energy than it takes to run a coffee maker. Yet, it produces an amazing 5,119 BTU's."

Wikipedia states:

"1000 BTU/h is approximately 293 W"

so 5,119 BTU for one hour is 1.5KW, or the same as most hair dryers and electric heaters. I suppose a coffee maker may also use that much or more if its on for an hour to boil that much water for coffee.

here's your history lesson for the day: amish people, for the most part, don't have electricity in their homes.

here's your geography lesson for the day: "HEAT SURGE miracle heater is a work of engineering genius from the China coast so advanced,....."

amish people don't live in china. they live in the u.s.a and canada

wikipedia link for amish

Total scam.

Amish and electricity don't even mix.
Amish and new technology don't even mix either.

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From links similar to those shown in other postings:

Why Amish don't use electricity
As Christians, they believe that modern conveniences are a way of conforming to the world which God instructed us not to do, and that the conveniences also keep us from spending time with God. As a modern Christian, I of course respect the Amish, although I'm not quite sure if God meant not to use conveniences, as long as we make room for him.

Many people don't understand why the Amish don't use electricity and find it difficult to relate to this type of lifestyle. The Amish have purposely chosen to live their lives separated from the rest of the world at large. While they are not totally isolated from society, they are about as isolated from the influences of modern technology as any group of people can be. The Amish do not accept the use of electricity because they consider it to be a direct connection to the very world that they are trying to avoid. When electric lines began making their way across the country and into every home and business around the world, the Amish made a very conscious decision to not allow electric lines to be brought into their homes and businesses. Because electricity comes from a main power grid that connects all the lines together, the Amish decided this was a connection to the evils of the modern world and chose not to be a part of it. The fact that they have stuck to their guns for the past one hundred years or so shows their tenacity and strength of conviction and faith.

Over the years, the Amish have come up with some pretty inventive ways to compensate for their lack of electric equipment. For instance, Amish dairies rely on the sale of milk and dairy products to the surrounding community to sustain themselves. When the government began regulating dairy production, they required that all dairy farmers refrigerate their milk while it was being stored on the farm. This was a major problem for the Amish farmers because they were prohibited by the Amish church from using electric powered milk coolers. So, instead they found that they could use diesel generators to power the milk coolers to keep the milk properly refrigerated. At some point, the Amish realized that the generators could also be used to compress air which was stored in tanks to be used for powering water pumps while they were still being used to power the milk coolers. This meant that the Amish no longer needed to rely on windmills to get their water pumped from the wells. This compressed air idea was then expande and today the Amish use compressed air to run washing machines, sewing machines, hand mixers, blenders, and power tools. In addition, the diesel generators are also used to charge car batteries which the Amish use to power headlights and taillights on their buggies, which are now required by law. These portable batteries are also used to power smaller appliances such as sewing machines used to make Amish quilts, fans, glue guns, and even cash registers in the Amish family businesses.

diesel generators to power the milk coolers to keep the milk properly refrigerated. At some point, the Amish realized that the generators could also be used to compress air which was stored in tanks to be used for powering water pumps while they were still being used to power the milk coolers

diesel generators are electricity. a non-renewable resource.

or are they just using some R-134a aircon compressors powered off a diesel motor? did they just take the wheels off a refrigeration truck and call it a day

bullbert said:NASA is reverse engineering 1960s rocket technology that was never properly documented, because rockets worked better 40 years ago, than can be designed now. (An indication the Congress has stunted Engineering in America with its H1 and L1 work visa programs).

hahaha ... sorry to TJ but,
from washingtonpost: Foreign-born researchers are common in the U.S. academic and scientific communities. In fact, more than a third of American Nobel laureates in the sciences over the last 15 years were born outside the U.S.
Immigrants have won 32 percent of the U.S. Nobel Prizes for physics, 31 percent of the medicine and economics prizes, and 26 percent of the chemistry prizes.

heres some recent articles:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/21/AR2007122101919.html
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ibd/20071211/bs_ibd_ibd/20071211general

article from yale: http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/display.article?id=9907

Business Weeks America's Best Young Entrepreneurs 2007 : http://www.businessweek.com/smallbiz/content/oct2007/sb20071019_394343.htm?chan=smallbiz_smallbiz+index+page_best+u.s.+entrep

Heres a recent Wall Street Journal Editorial:
American Brain Drain
The Wall Street Journal: November 30, 2007; Page A16

One myth dogging the immigration debate is that employers are fibbing (or grossly exaggerating) when they claim that hiring foreign professionals is unavoidable because U.S.-born Ph.D.s are hard to come by. But a new report on doctorates from U.S. universities shows they're telling the truth, and then some.

Foreign-born students holding temporary visas received 33% of all research doctorates awarded by U.S. universities in 2006, according to an annual survey by the National Opinion Research Center at the University of Chicago. That number has climbed from 25% in 2001. But more to the point of business competitiveness, foreign students comprised 44% of science and engineering doctorates last year.

"China was the country of origin for the largest number of non-U.S. doctorates in 2006," says the report, followed by India, Korea, Taiwan and Canada. "The percentage of doctorates earned by U.S. citizens ranged from lows of 32% in engineering and 47% in physical sciences, to highs of 87% in education and 78% in humanities." Given this reality, is it any wonder that 40% of Ph.D.s working in U.S. science and engineering occupations are foreign-born?

Immigration opponents still claim that the likes of Intel and Oracle merely want to hire Chinese engineers on the cheap. In fact, U.S. law already prohibits companies from paying these foreign nationals less than natives. And all other things being equal, the American job applicant has an advantage because employers are required to pay an additional $4,000-$6,000 in taxes and fees on every H-1B visa holder they hire.

A mere 65,000 H-1B visas for foreign professionals are allocated each year. And this year, as in the previous four, the quota was exhausted almost as soon as the applications became available in April. This effectively means that more than half of all foreign nationals who earned advanced degrees in math and science in 2007 have been shut out of the U.S. job market.

Economic protectionists oppose lifting the visa cap to meet demand. But it makes little sense for our universities to be educating these talented foreign students, only to send them packing after graduation. Current policies have MIT and Stanford educating the next generation of innovators -- and then deporting them to create wealth elsewhere.

Closing the door to foreign professionals puts U.S. companies at a competitive disadvantage and pushes jobs out of the country. Worse, it does so at a time when other nations are rolling out the welcome mat. Earlier this year Microsoft, which is the third-largest sponsor of H-1B visas, announced plans to open a new software development center near Vancouver. The decision to locate the facility in Canada was based in part on the fact that it doesn't have access to enough foreign workers state-side.

"We currently do 85% of our development work in the U.S., and we'd like to continue doing that," says Jack Krumholtz, the company's director of government affairs. "But if we can't hire the developers we need, . . . we're going to have to look to other options to get the work done." Meanwhile, the European Union recently introduced its own new temporary work visa that's designed to reduce red tape and waiting periods for foreign professionals.

If the U.S. spurns this human capital, it will find a home somewhere else. And that will be America's loss.
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Heres another Duke study / Wall Street Journal:
Immigrant Innovators
Start-up engineering and technology companies that had at least one immigrant founder produced $52 billion sales in 2005 and employed about 450,000 workers, according to a study by researchers at the University of California at Berkeley and Duke University.

The study surveyed 28,776 engineering and technology firms that were started between 1995 and 2005, and found that one-quarter had either a chief executive or a chief technology officer who is an immigrant. Of those, one-quarter had Indian-born founders. The biggest share of the start-ups is in California, where almost 40% of new engineering and technology companies have immigrant founders.

The study also found that 24% of international patent applications by U.S.-based inventors were filed by noncitizens. That’s up from 1998, when 7% of patent applications had a foreign inventor or co-inventor. The Berkeley and Duke authors said they reached that conclusion by analyzing World Intellectual Property Organization records for international patent filings by U.S.-resident inventors.

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look up into Grassley Bill that failed and search up from DHS; you will see how many cases of fraud under H1-B were done amaazingly low number: Heres Dept. of Labor stats: back wages owed to H-1B hires amounted to just $4.6 million in 2006, down from $5.2 million the previous year. In a $12 trillion economy, those numbers are infinitesimal. Department of Labor investigations reveal that some 90% of violations are paperwork offenses and good-faith misunderstandings.

so no major fraud cases either ... merry christmas and a happy new year!

would like to order 2 heaters at no cost to me --- if the advertised special for 2 free heaters is still available -- I would like more info on how to order -- I am very interested in this concept.
Thanks Pearl Bergeron

I did the samething, I also called my credit card, and I didn't have to cancel my credit card, they just put it on hold, I don't know if I should cancel my credit card and get a new one or stop the hold, it took me 2 days to get in contact with somboby to cancel my order.