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http://www.9news.com/money/article.aspx?storyid=84214

DeBeers is settling a class action lawsuit.
Visit the website to see if you qualify and find out how to submit your form.

If you submit your Claim Form via mail, it must be postmarked no later than May 19, 2008 and addressed to: Diamonds Claims Administrator, P.O. Box 9432, Minneapolis, Minnesota 55440–9432.

If you submit your claim via the online Claim Form at www.diamondsclassaction.com, the Claim Form must be completed and electronically submitted no later than 11:59 pm Pacific Standard Time, May 19, 2008.



Thanks for the info. I spent > $5000 on an engagement ring, so I hope to get some $$$ back.


Thanks too for the info. I got married in 1997, so we were definitely buying diamonds in the class period. If I read the rules right, there's a maximum of $640 per person in damages. I filed (engagement ring, wedding band, tennis bracelet) and my wife filed (wedding band for me with diamond). I'll share this info with relatives, too, who I know bought diamonds during the period.


ThinkswithFist said: Thanks too for the info. I got married in 1997, so we were definitely buying diamonds in the class period. If I read the rules right, there's a maximum of $640 per person in damages. I filed (engagement ring, wedding band, tennis bracelet) and my wife filed (wedding band for me with diamond). I'll share this info with relatives, too, who I know bought diamonds during the period.

I think you misunderstand the example. That is just an example of someone who bought a ring for $2000. His maximum claim will be 640 (32% of 2,000) - but that can be limited by the dollar amount of the total claims that are filed.

If you purchased a $7,000 engagement ring, and then later a $5,000 anniversary ring (both all diamond), you can receive UP TO $4,295 ((38.5% * 7,000) + (32% * 5,000)). Of course, that is the maximum that can be paid. If there are more claims than there is alloted money for, the share will be lowered, pro-rata.

Full details of the payment schedule is here:

Thanks OP!


From the plaintiff's attorney's website: Summary


miffy said: From the plaintiff's attorney's website: Summary

Good summary, but they represent the reseller's (Tiffany's, etc.). The consumers (us) are represented by four different firms:

Lieff Cabraser Heimann & Bernstein, LLP
Zelle Hofmann & Mason, LLP
Cooper & Kirkham, PC and
Korein Tillery, LLP


Thanks, OP. Just filed a claim for my wife's engagement ring, which I bought in 2000. The online claim form asks for surprisingly little information. Just what you bought and how much you paid (not date or retailer or how many diamonds or anything). They say you may be asked to provide more documentation later. And of course, you file the claim under penalty of perjury, since it's under the court's jurisdiction.

This could be a few hundred bucks if all goes well.

--VANCE


I'll forward this info to my stepdad. Would be nice if he could get something back and throw me a little cash like a finder's fee.


Just wondering how many claims there will be and how many dollars spent by the claimants over the nine years .... thinking that maybe the $135m allocated for the consumer subclass won't go very far.... (FW effect to our detriment?)

Still might get a bottle of beer for free...

For someone not familiar with US law and such events can they really pay without wanting proof of purchase? Assuming this will definitely be required at some point?


Great post. I saw something about this on the late news last night but I was only semi-awake. I'm emailing this to all the suckers like me who got married over the last 12 years!


Nice find


Does anyone else think the estimated amount going to the "consumer" subclass is insanely high?

I've seen some of how the debeers side of the diamond market works, and I just dont see them paying ~$640 on a $2k valued diamong ring. Hell, they didnt even make close to $640 on that ring themselves. It's not like they pull the diamonds out of the ground and stick them in a ring. There are a ton of labor and handling steps in the chain from the mining operation until it's set in a ring, and every step along the way increases costs through labor and all the typical trappings of business.


With that said, yes I definitely believe they have monopolized the market and very much helped to keep it inflated. Such a thing happens in a lot of markets though. They don't want prices to fluctuate much because that causes strife to those buying and selling.
I mean you are talking about a rock that is mined for something around the cost of dollars per pound. But the many steps after that are what add the most cost, not to mention the entire wholesale-retail chain, several parts of which debeers has little to do with.

Same could be said about several other markets and other companies for that matter.

Another way to look at this is like a previous poster mentioned. Lets say an average of $640 for each consumer, that means ~211000 consumers would get in on the deal before the money runs dry. That means one person out of every 1000 in this country or something tiny.

All of this leaves me curious as to why they are collecting these names and addresses.

Reminds me of the visa/mastercard foreign transaction fees class action suit recently.


Many will enter and FEW will win. In for the heck of it ...... only paid about 1200 but we did know the owners .. ( i was there with his cousin)


huh debeers is like slavery in africa.

did you watch ice road truckers? i didn't even know they were in canada too.


they cost 5 dollars a karat to mine 65 dollars a karat to cut
(did you pay too much?)


any diamonds ? or just wedding/engagment rings ?


I have tried to file an online claim twice, but both computers I tried on gave me a message saying that I have cookies disabled, the 'continue' button is blanked out and I cannot proceed. I turned off my firewall and lowered my IE security settings.

Anyone else having issues, or am I missing something?


Lawyers are the ONLY ones that get the benefit here. The participants in the lawsuit will not get nearly 640 each.

"Class Counsel will ask the Court for an award of attorneys’ fees in an amount no greater than 25% of the Settlement Fund."

So 25% of 300 million to the lawyers. ~$75,000,000.00


Good find...I just made by submission. Hopefully I'll get a nice surprise in the mail in a few months.


diamondcutter said: Good find...I just made by submission. Hopefully I'll get a nice surprise in the mail in a few months.

Ya,for the $9k I claimed I expect to get at least $2.50(that's two dollars and fifty cents).


Thanks for the info, I submitted my claim. Hopefully, I can get something back and upgrade my diamond. If only it covers May 2007, I would have been able to claim $2500 more.


Thnaks OP! It's about time I got some kind of return on this marriage


Thanks for spreading the word. I passed it on.


The lawyers are the real winners here. I like how they said if the refund is less than $10, they won't send anything due to the high costs.

Wonder how much money their processing company is getting to mail out these checks...


It says anything under $10 they keep for Admin Fees, so I doubt anyone will see anything from this, but still gave it a shot.


bearsrock said:
For someone not familiar with US law and such events can they really pay without wanting proof of purchase? Assuming this will definitely be required at some point?

Proof of purchase is only required if you spent more than $10K. There's no way they can process proof of purchases for everyone.

In a recent Microsoft settlement, it was the same way. I just had to list all the Microsoft software I had purchased in a set time range, and 6 - 8 months later I got a check for almost $100 in the mail.

Still, it's a very bad idea to lie about how much you spent since in the off chance that they do request proof, you will be caught committing perjury. (not to mention that it's simply not ethical.)


Antiliberal said: Does anyone else think the estimated amount going to the "consumer" subclass is insanely high?

Lets say an average of $640 for each consumer, that means ~211000 consumers would get in on the deal before the money runs dry. That means one person out of every 1000 in this country or something tiny.

You misunderstand the settlement. A person who bought a $2000 engagement ring would get a MAXIMUM of $640 only if not enough people submit claims. If 1 million people made diamond purchases averaging $2000 and filed claims, then each person would get ~$130. People who submit claims don't get the maximum amount on a first-come, first-served basis.

How many people in the US actually bought diamonds during this time frame? How many of them will file a claim? I'll be surprised if these claim checks are tiny.


Well I bought my diamond in oct of 06. This sucks. It's not like diamonds got cheaper after this class-action period.

Oh well, congrats to the lucky ones in the class.


Sounds good to me.


This is NOT a claim under the action...all it is at this time is a request to be considered as part of the group...before anybody gets any money you will have to fill out a much more detailed claim and provide proof (receipt copies, etc.) What you are doing is more or less claiming a place in line to have your claim considered in the future.They w


Banshai said: This is NOT a claim under the action...all it is at this time is a request to be considered as part of the group...before anybody gets any money you will have to fill out a much more detailed claim and provide proof (receipt copies, etc.) What you are doing is more or less claiming a place in line to have your claim considered in the future.They wCat got your tongue?

So the claim form on the website is not a claim form? IMO you are wrong, as if you make a claim over a certain amount, THEN you have to submit to claim form confirmation page with documentation of your purchase. Please point to language in the settlement details that supports your position.


thanks OP
in 4 1

*edit LOL why are you giving me red for filing a form and thanking the OP?


saetveit said:
Proof of purchase is only required if you spent more than $10K. There's no way they can process proof of purchases for everyone.

In a recent Microsoft settlement, it was the same way. I just had to list all the Microsoft software I had purchased in a set time range, and 6 - 8 months later I got a check for almost $100 in the mail.

Still, it's a very bad idea to lie about how much you spent since in the off chance that they do request proof, you will be caught committing perjury. (not to mention that it's simply not ethical.)

Any advice on what to do in the following situation:
I bought an engagement ring (it worked!) during the time period stated, however I don't think I have a proof of purchase so there's not a way for me to figure out the exact purchase price. However, I do have one of those "guaranteed to appraise for $5K" certificates (I think I paid less than the number on the certificate, but not by a whole lot). So, would it be ok for me to value my purchase at $5K?

What are you guys using as a proof of purchase is the purchase dates back to 2000 and before and you don't have a receipt or even a credit card statement showing the purchase?


My DH bought my engagement ring, wedding band, necklace, earrings, and watch in that time frame. I am sending in documentation for the ring. I agree...it is a real claim. I entered class action suit for hydroxycut and got check for $30 in the mail without having to do anything else...not that this is the same. We bought $21k worth of diamond jewelry during the suit time frame so I'm curious what will come out of it.


I bought my diamond ring from Friedmans in 2002. English is not my mother language so i could not understand clearly if i am in the Indirect Purchaser Consumer Subclass.

Is there any way simpler to check if i am qualify ? OR is there any one can help me with this qualifying issue ?


Thanks for the find. I just might get something back from "The MAN". Between this and the ForEx fees claims, I might have enough for lunch at Culver's.


Just submitted my claim online. Hopefully will get something back in the mail soon. OP, thanks for the great info.


aww man i have a debeers diamond purchased during the time period, but not in the US. oh well, not like i paid for it anyway.


thepioneerva said: I bought my diamond ring from Friedmans in 2002. English is not my mother language so i could not understand clearly if i am in the Indirect Purchaser Consumer Subclass.

Is there any way simpler to check if i am qualify ? OR is there any one can help me with this qualifying issue ?


Basically...if you bought a diamond from a retail store...you're covered


Skipping 24 Messages...

tannedgecko said: WHOA that was close 30 mins before its DEAD
so, stupid question here,
they say that I an not in their system (in fact, they are saying I never submitted the claim at all, even though I have a time stamped PDF printout from April 2, 2008 that says I did). Anyone know any ways around this? Or, anyone I can talk to? I call, and they say I'm screwed. I'm annoyed, because I actually submitted this one on time.
thanks..




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