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I am considering buying a car. A Prius. I was thinking of purchasing a 2008, in the fall, when the 2009's come out, hopeing to get a better deal.

I am considering getting a penfed auto loan, at the 4.25% interest rate.

I HATE dealing with car dealerships. I am single woman, and I ALWAYS feel like IM getting scr@w@d, blued and well you know...

On Penfed they suggest using CarsDirect.com as a way to purchase/trade in vehicles.

Has anyone used their service? They claim they do all the haggling for you, they find the car, etc.

Any thoughts on this?

Thanks for your help.

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Prius is a hot in demand car now. In the way of no haggle, Costco also has no-haggle preset pricing with affiliated dealers.

 


From article:

Toyota said May 2 it planned to boost the base price of the Prius $400, or 1.8 percent, this month.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601101&sid=ahXAyNA7my1E&refer=japan

May 13 (Bloomberg) -- Toyota Motor Corp.'s Prius hybrid, the most fuel-efficient car sold in the U.S., is getting harder to find on dealer lots and commanding higher prices when customers do.

It can take up to two weeks to receive delivery of the hybrid-electric vehicle, said Mark Harding, general manager of Toyota of Santa Monica, in Santa Monica, California.

``We've got some in stock at the moment, but we've also got a waiting list,'' he said. ``Supply is very tight.''

U.S. inventories of Priuses are limited by production capacity in Japan, which must be shared with Asia and Europe, said John Hanson, a Toyota spokesman in Torrance, California.

``This is a special vehicle, and as fuel prices keep rising, it gets more special,'' he said. ``Right now, U.S. customers can get a Prius. Next month or the month after that, it's tough to say.''

U.S. dealer supplies of Priuses have dropped to the lowest level in two years, allowing Toyota, the world's second-largest automaker, to pare incentives and raise prices, said Mike Michels, a Toyota spokesman in Torrance.

Toyota cut the value of sales promotions on the five-year- old model to $123 per vehicle in April, from $1,471 in March 2007, said Jesse Toprak, an analyst at Edmunds.com, a Santa Monica-based automotive Web site for consumers. Prius sales jumped 67 percent last month, fed by record gasoline prices.

Cost of Fuel

``There's really no other car that's been out as long as Prius selling at this kind of volume with little or no incentive support,'' Toprak said. ``Gas prices certainly help.''

Regular unleaded gasoline climbed to a record $3.73 a gallon yesterday, up 22 percent from a year earlier, according to AAA's Daily Fuel Gauge Report.

Toyota said May 2 it planned to boost the base price of the Prius $400, or 1.8 percent, this month.

Currently, Prius sells for $25,274 on average, $869 more than a year ago, according to J.D. Power & Associates, a marketing data firm owned by New York-based McGraw-Hill Cos.

Prius demand is among this year's few U.S. bright spots for Toyota. The company, based in Toyota City, Japan, posted a 28 percent drop in profit last week for the quarter ended March 31 on weak U.S. sales and a stronger yen. President Katsuaki Watanabe predicts a 6.4 percent decline in North American sales for the year ending next March.

Best Seller

Toyota's U.S. sales, down 3.3 percent this year through April, are heading for the first annual decrease since 1995. By contrast, Prius deliveries are up 23 percent in 2008, to 64,664 vehicles. Already the world's best-selling hybrid, Prius was No. 9 in U.S. passenger-car sales through April, its highest ranking.

Incentives for the Prius that were eliminated include low- interest rate financing, discounts on accessories, and above book-value offers for customer trade-in vehicles, Toprak said. Now there's no incentive support for the model, Toyota spokesman Michels said.

Prius inventory is at the lowest level in the U.S. since 2006 as rising gasoline prices and a sluggish economy stoke demand for fuel-efficient vehicles. Two years ago, sales were boosted by U.S. income tax credits of as much as $3,150 for purchases. California buyers also were able to use the cars for unrestricted access to carpool lanes. Neither enticement is available now.

Cars on Lots

U.S. dealers had a seven-day Prius supply as of April 30, said Paul Zajac, industry data manager for Ward's Automotive in Southfield, Michigan. Toyota estimated its inventory at eight days, including dealer stock and cars in transit across the U.S., said Sona Iliffe-Moon, a spokeswoman in Torrance. That's down from the peak supply of 59 days in January 2007 when Toyota announced its first round of Prius incentives, Zajac said.

The company curtailed the promotions in mid-2007, Toprak said. Analysts consider a 60-day inventory as the industry standard.

Dealers' supplies aren't likely to rise this year, as Prius production is constrained by the availability of battery packs, Michels said.

``That supply of batteries has to be shared with other products, like Camry Hybrid, which is also up a lot this year,'' he said. The hybrid Camry sedan posted a 37 percent jump in U.S. deliveries through April, to 21,479 cars, based on figures reported by Toyota.

Fuel Economy

The car gets 46 miles per gallon in combined city and highway driving, the best fuel economy of any model rated by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. Toyota's similar-sized Corolla, a conventionally powered vehicle and the best-selling small car in the U.S., gets 29 miles per gallon.

Sales of hybrids, including the Prius, Camry and Honda Motor Co.'s Civic Hybrid, are up 45 percent this year to a record 125,087 vehicles, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

A redesigned Prius may be shown at the 2009 Detroit auto show, Toyota's Watanabe said in January. Toyota hasn't said when the new version will go on sale.

Toyota's American depositary receipts fell 26 cents to $101.35 at 4:02 p.m. in New York Stock Exchange composite trading. They have fallen 4.5 percent in 2008, compared with a 7.8 percent drop for the 19-stock Bloomberg World Auto Manufacturers Index.

To contact the reporter on this story: Alan Ohnsman in Los Angeles at aohnsman@bloomberg.net

Last Updated: May 13, 2008 16:21 EDT

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I use CarsDirect as a reference for prices, but I have never found the prices they offer to be all that great. I have always negotiated a price lower. The good (or bad) news is that most dealers are selling Priuses (sp?) at MSRP right now. In fact, I have read that some dealers in certain parts of the country are tacking on extras like paint protection that just boost the price.

If you can get a discount off of MSRP on a Prius right now, you are doing well !

We looked at leasing a Prius(so I did alot of homework), but ended up with a Camry as the lease for the Prius was $100 more per month and there was no way I could save that in gas.

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If you can get one at MSRP I think you're doing well. A coworker of mine ordered about 2 months ago(I'm in MN) and got a $500 discount, but between that and the time they picked it up(last week) the dealership has them going at full sticker now. I'd buy sooner than later, as they're only going to keep going up in price. Good luck.

Message edited by: weinerdog on 2008-05-15 20:55:34 CDT
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Credit unions also have affiliated dealers where there is preset pricing and minimal haggling.
Buyer gets a preapproved loan from credit union or just goes to affiliated dealer, tells dealer the affiliation, and
dealer gives buyer the preset pricing on the car.

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CarsDirect.com is a good way to start. I would also look into the Costco no-haggle pricing program. Do all the research you can on Edmunds.com. The biggest piece of advice is to be open-minded as to the car you want. A 4-cylinder Honda Civic, while not as sexy as a Prius, will cost a lot less and probably be just as fuel-efficient. The Toyota Prius is in high-demand right now, and you should expect to pay full MSRP on it. (At least in Los Angeles; my friend could not swing a better deal no matter how hard he bargained, and he's a good haggler.)

ecjjones said:I am considering buying a car. A Prius. I was thinking of purchasing a 2008, in the fall, when the 2009's come out, hopeing to get a better deal.

I am considering getting a penfed auto loan, at the 4.25% interest rate.

I HATE dealing with car dealerships. I am single woman, and I ALWAYS feel like IM getting scr@w@d, blued and well you know...

On Penfed they suggest using CarsDirect.com as a way to purchase/trade in vehicles.

Has anyone used their service? They claim they do all the haggling for you, they find the car, etc.

Any thoughts on this?

Thanks for your help.

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OP,

When buying a car - what are you trying to save:
1) Time
2) Money
3) Hassle of Haggling

It is almost impossible to save all three, because to save money it will take you some time and haggling. So prioritize which of the three are most important. Secondly, go to CarsDirect and use that as your starting point - you already know you can get the car for that price now! Call the internet department of a few dealerships, tell them youa re ready to buy today and want their best quote. THEIR OUT THE DOOR QUOTE - after taxes and everything included so quotes are apples to apples. Collect a few quotes - does CarsDirect beat them? Call the dealers back and let them know you want to know if they can do better than their previous offer, because someone else has. DON'T GIVE AWAY YOUR LOWEST BID. If they ask for it, politely remind them you are buying today, you don't have the time or energy to haggle, and just want their best price...

Sounds harder than it really is. But in a very short amount of time you will have negotiated a good price. When you agree with one of the dealers, ask for the VIN of the car, agree on any upgrades, and the final out the door number. If you feel better ask them to fax this all to you in writing. Schedule a time to come in and pick up your car and do the paperwork. Politely let them know you are a little pressed for time, and ask how long everything will take (30 mins). Then ask if they can have everything ready for when you get there. Why? This way if they try to pull something over on you at the last minute you have their detailed offer in writing (no "misunderstandings"). You told them you didn't have time, and will have an excuse to leave if they try something funny on you. As soon as you start to leave, the misunderstanding will change - in the unlikely event you even have to get to this point.

Again, CarsDirect is your starting point. local dealers are likely to at least beat that. If not, go through CarsDirect. You can have your new Prius by tonight, knowing you didin't have to haggle yet got a fair price... Enjoy the car

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When buying a car - what are you trying to save:

I want to buy a car, with the things I want on it, enjoy it, at a fair value.

I appreciate that the salesman needs to make some profit. I don't want to get screwed.

I hate the entire process.

It is so slimey and yes, for me, intimidating.

I don't want to sit in a dealer's showroom for 6 hours (that's what happened 7 years ago, when I purchased the car I have now).

Yes I hate the hassle.

Actually I'd really like for someone else I trust to do the whole thing for me, and I just sign the check and drive the car away. I used to do that with my bro--but he passed away.

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Salesman at affiliated Toyota dealer showed how it was under the Costco program.
For instance, for dealers in the program that only charge a few hundred over factory invoice, buyer just selects the car
they like on the lot or the model and the options that they want, they get out the invoice, add in the
few hundred dollars and that is the price buyer pays. No haggling.


For hot cars selling at window stick price, they still would still have some preset member price for model that you want
with the options that you want.

 


http://www.costcoauto.com
An auto buying program that delivers real value.
Our prearranged ‘member-only’ prices are, on average, $1,000 lower than the best prices non-members are able to negotiate on the same new vehicles. And with more than 2,400 participating dealerships nationwide, it’s never been easier to save money, time and hassle on your next car, truck or SUV.
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http://www.samsclubauto.com/About.asp

How does the Auto, Boat & RV Program work?
The Auto, Boat & RV Program selects participating new car dealers in each market that has a Sam's Club. These dealers have been selected for their willingness to give a low, no-hassle, no-haggle price to Sam's Club members. When you use the Program, you are referred to the special, Contact Person at the dealership that has the make of vehicle you want. This Contact Person gives you the Sam's Club Member price on the vehicle of your choice, up-front, without negotiation. The program includes both cars on the dealer's lot or on factory orders.

As a Member, you simply give us your choice of vehicle, either new or pre-owned, along with the information on how to best contact you. We notify the participating dealer's Contact Person, who will contact you to show you your vehicle of choice and give you the Sam's Club price. You communicate with the Contact Person at your convenience. You are under no obligation.

You can access the program by visiting the website at www.samsclubauto.com or by calling the Program call center and speaking with one of our friendly Member Service Representatives. Our call center is available at 888.525.4286, Monday through Saturday, 8:00 am to 8:00 pm, CST.

 

 

http://www.costcoauto.com
An auto buying program that delivers real value.
Our prearranged ‘member-only’ prices are, on average, $1,000 lower than the best prices non-members are able to negotiate on the same new vehicles. And with more than 2,400 participating dealerships nationwide, it’s never been easier to save money, time and hassle on your next car, truck or SUV.

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Assuming you are in the DC Area (b/c you mentioned PenFed), try Carbargains from Checkboog.org

Look at some of their terrific reviews

http://www.checkbook.org/auto/cb-press.cfm

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fasttimes said:Assuming you are in the DC Area (b/c you mentioned PenFed), try Carbargains from Checkboog.org

Look at some of their terrific reviews

http://www.checkbook.org/auto/cb-press.cfm

Actually, Carbargains is available nationwide, not only in DC area...

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I recently bought a 2009 Toyota Corolla LE with couple of options for 16.5K OTD (Location : Tampa,Florida). This is $1200 less that CarsDirect's quote.

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