The Cane Sugar / No HFCS Soft Drinks Thread.

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Is this the *****OFFICIAL***** thread of just a regular thread?


MajorDarkside said: Is this the *****OFFICIAL***** thread of just a regular thread?Depends on my mood =p


For those on the east coast, Coco Rico bottled in Puerto Rico is made with cane sugar.

Be aware that the stuff bottled in Oakland, California, (and commonly found in the west) is almost always made with corn syrup.


WalMart sometimes gets Mexican Coke in 12oz glass bottles. It is $1.29 each bottle.


macdave said: WalMart sometimes gets Mexican Coke in 12oz glass bottles. It is $1.29 each bottle.

Most Sams Clubs also sell Mexican Coke with pure cane sugar in 24 packs for aound $18.

BTW there are already several lengthy cane sugar product threads here on FW. As I posted in a couple of them a few years ago GlassBottleSoda.org is a great site for locating local bottlers that still uses pure cane sugar in their drink products.



Boylan sodas are available year-round at Cost Plus World Market, no HFCS.


What about sugar-sweetened chewing gum? It is so difficult to find gum that doesn't have chemical sweeteners or sugar alcohols. Bazooka, and I think Bubblicious also, still make sugar-sweetened gum, but I miss the original Juicy Fruit.


TxAggieJen said: What about sugar-sweetened chewing gum? It is so difficult to find gum that doesn't have chemical sweeteners or sugar alcohols. Bazooka, and I think Bubblicious also, still make sugar-sweetened gum, but I miss the original Juicy Fruit.

LOL!Remember Bazooka Big Buddy? The only gum that could double as a ruler and advertised to have a full cup of sugar in every stick! It is too bad the bogus ADM (the largest producer of HCFS) funded studies of the earliy 80s killed off the sugar-sweetened chewing gum industry forever.


In the Pacific Northwest, Jones Soda Company makes soda with inverted cane sugar. The problem with them-at least to me-is that they focus on too many off flavors. For instance they make weird flavors during the holidays like 'Turkey and Gravy' flavored soda. I can get a lot of their off flavors at the one supermarket in my small town but the thing is I don't care for these flavors. FUFU Berry, Green Apple, and Berry Lemonade are readily available for around $5 per 12 pack. When the Seattle Seahawks went to the Superbowl, Jones Soda distributed their Cola flavor in mass quantities. (Yeah, it's hard to believe the cola flavor is rare compared to flavors like FUFU Berry!) Back then, it was possible to find regular Cola flavored soda at Albertson's for around $3-4 for a 12 pack! That price put them in direct price comparison with a similar 12 pack product from Coke or Pepsi.

It would be nice to find a cane sugar soda maker step up and make their product widely available, even it is just their local area, and offer comparable products to Coke and Pepsi for the same price.

Edit to add: Thomas Kemper sodas are widely available here but are very pricey... almost as much as beer.


FYI: I came across a commercial on the Food Network from the Corn Refiners Association about HFCS. I was going to put it on YouTube, but it is already posted.

This CRA commercial states that HFCS is ok in moderation, and that we are lead to believe that HFCS is as nutritionally as good as sugar.

To that I add these YouTube responses:
A spoof on the Corn Growers Association 2nd commercial.

How do you moderate an ingredient that is in virtually EVERYTHING?

Maybe after we find soda a soda with no HFCS in it then we can start searching for a loaf of bread with no HFCS.


RedLance said: It would be nice to find a cane sugar soda maker step up and make their product widely available, even it is just their local area, and offer comparable products to Coke and Pepsi for the same price.I just discovered that Boylan soda is available on Amazon directly from the bottler, $30 for 12 (free shipping).

http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&search-alias=grocery&field-brandtextbin=Boylan

My favorites are Creamy Red Birch and Orange Creme. They have Sugar Cane Cola but I'm not a huge fan of it.


I'm not sure how many of you know this, it may be old news, but you can get the Coca-Cola made for Passover that is made with beet and pure cane sugar.

In the weeks leading up to Passover (which starts April 9th this year), many stores in the Jewish parts of town will carry it. You can recognize these 2-liter Coke bottles by their yellow caps. I've heard that Pepsi makes a Passover version of Pepsi also but with white bottle caps, but I've never seen it myself.


Very interesting! Thanks for bringing this topic back up.


I had the Mexican cola here in the US and also had them in Mexico, somehow the one I bought here taste just ain't as good as the one in Mexico (Mexico City to be precise). What's you guys take on that?


Zeanuts I noticed the same thing. I buy Coca-Cola in bottles from a small latin store and they are from El Salvador. I think the shipping and heating/cooling cycles affect the flavor a bit.

Thank goodness I spend a lot of time in Latin America and can drink the good stuff all the time. We American's get screwed in our own country wrt Coca-Cola.

Heard on the radio that Pepsi is introducing some kind of retro Pepsi made with cane sugar. Hopefully Coke will do the same.


ZenNUTS said: I had the Mexican cola here in the US and also had them in Mexico, somehow the one I bought here taste just ain't as good as the one in Mexico (Mexico City to be precise). What's you guys take on that?
Probably the local water adds some flavor


FYI Passover Coco-Cola is 98% beet sugars so they are not really considered the traditional "cane sugar" Coca Cola of the pre-80s. Also just because you buy a Coca Cola product bottled in Latin America that does not guarantee it is cane sugar based. In fact most Coca Cola sold in Mexico and Central America is now beet and sweet potato sugar based. People often make false assumptions that since Sams sell cane sugar Coca Cola products bottled in Mexico that all Mexican Coca Cola product from Mexico is cane sugar based with is not true.


Doesn't matter to me if it's cane sugar, beet sugar, or any other real sugar. I just don't want HFCS products. It's difficult to buy any processed foods or ketchup, bbq sauce, etc because of the high usage of HFCS.


Cerdo said: Doesn't matter to me if it's cane sugar, beet sugar, or any other real sugar. I just don't want HFCS products. It's difficult to buy any processed foods or ketchup, bbq sauce, etc because of the high usage of HFCS.

However there is a noticeable taste difference depending on which type of real sugar is used in products hence my reply to the other poster commenting on Mexican Coca Cola purchased in Mexico city tasted different than Mexican Coca Cola sold in the US.


BrianGa said: Snapple to go Sugar!Found Snapple Ice Tea / Lemonade at a bagel shop this morning with real sugar.


Cerdo said: Doesn't matter to me if it's cane sugar, beet sugar, or any other real sugar. I just don't want HFCS products. It's difficult to buy any processed foods or ketchup, bbq sauce, etc because of the high usage of HFCS.

Do you have a Whole Foods near you? They carry HFCS-free ketchup, bbq and other sauces. Actually, I haven't seen a single product in Whole Foods that has HFCS in it.


I bought Jones Cream Soda in a bottle at the local Store 24 (Boston area) the other day. Said pure cane sugar on it.


In response to a post from above, last year I found some gum made with real sugar in it. I found it online and then also in the Whole Foods Market that is about 75 miles away from me. I actually didn't like the taste at all, so it was not a good substitute for me (a substitute for the currently-available aspartame/msg-laden gum, which I am under orders from my dentist to chew.)

It's called Glee Gum and at least as of last year, one could order it online. It has a retro look to the branding.


Does anyone have a suggestion - I am looking for a tonic water that doesn't have artificial sweeteners or "flavoring" in it. Just sugar, carbonated water, quinine. When I lived in the UK, I found a supermarket own-brand (Waitrose) that fit my criteria. Unfortunately, "natural flavors", even when "organic", is often the code word on food labels for some kind of MSG, and I am very sensitive to MSG.


NantucketSunrise said: Does anyone have a suggestion - I am looking for a tonic water that doesn't have artificial sweeteners or "flavoring" in it. Just sugar, carbonated water, quinine. When I lived in the UK, I found a supermarket own-brand (Waitrose) that fit my criteria. Unfortunately, "natural flavors", even when "organic", is often the code word on food labels for some kind of MSG, and I am very sensitive to MSG.http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/how-to-make-your-own-tonic-water/


Thank you for the homemade tonic water recipe - however, it's pretty complicated and requires some exotic ingredients, a carbonation siphon, etc. I'm looking for something that I can just unscrew the cap of.

I've checked out the internet and found Fever Tree, Stirrings, and Q tonic which until recently, at least, were available in the US.

Stirrings' own website says that they only have 2 sets of 4 bottle cases left in stock, and I don't find it available anywhere else. It also doesn't get such great reviews. It used to be available from other internet stores but they seem to be out of stock.

Fever Tree seems to only be available in the US on Amazon from "brands of britain" and it's about 50 dollars for 24 small bottles. It seems to get the highest ratings from tasters. However, I had it once in the UK and I didn't think it was a big deal.

The best price I could find for Q tonic is $58 for 24 small bottles from their own website.

Whole Foods has their 365 brand tonic water which I tried once. I didn't like it much. It is also in cans and I prefer have beverages from glass bottles. The only 2 Whole Foods in my state are both 75 miles away from me so I don't go there very often.

Sigh. Just another reason why I really miss the Waitrose UK supermarket!


TxAggieJen said: Cerdo said: Doesn't matter to me if it's cane sugar, beet sugar, or any other real sugar. I just don't want HFCS products. It's difficult to buy any processed foods or ketchup, bbq sauce, etc because of the high usage of HFCS.

Do you have a Whole Foods near you? They carry HFCS-free ketchup, bbq and other sauces. Actually, I haven't seen a single product in Whole Foods that has HFCS in it.

There is a WF close but I've never been. I will check that out this week - thanks!


If you live in Texas, getting Dublin Doctor Pepper shouldn't be an impossible task. I know the very large Specs in Houston carries 6 packs and singles. I have never been in the Spec's in Austin, but they probably carry it also since it's one of the mega Spec's. I know that some Kroger stores also carry it in 6 packs (probably Signature stores only). They're tiny bottles, very cute. Getting Mexican Coke is also pretty easy here. Fiesta carries it as well as HEB and maybe Kroger. There are two sizes I've seen, and range in price from 99 cents to 1.29. You can also try the many Mexican supermarkets, which I know carry them.


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Glad to see that the no HFCS thread has taken a life of its own.

So, when is Passover/Pesach this year? Last year I stocked up o about 50 2 l bottles whose expiration date was in June. Label specifically stated "sucrose", and any mention to HFCS was missing.


Pepsi natural is now avaliable in Portland.


symbols, what's the retail price on the pepsi natural? did you find it in a grocery store?


BrianGa said: symbols, what's the retail price on the pepsi natural? did you find it in a grocery store?

I want to know this too..

Yesterday I found the rare Jones COLA flavored soda for $5.19/12 pack at the Haggen store in Oregon City.


Last time when I checked in a Kroger, Coca Cola and Pepsi (from Guatemala, IIRC; see the archived thread) were $1.79/ 330 ml glass bottle.


Sort of off-topic but an interesting read nonetheless, Coca-Cola's manufacturing process plays a part in the isolation and sale of cocaine. Most people are aware of the fact that cocaine was an ingredient in the original formula, but it came as a surprise that the cocaineless coca leaves remain in the current formula.

NYtimes


Apparently the cane sugar is becoming once again mainstream: NY Times article.


I was just in England. All the soft drinks there are HFCS-free. Yum!


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still plenty of passover Coke at my local Shop-Rite




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