From internal Best Buy memo, Best Buy to pre-sell Windows 7 upgrade version for $49.99. Microsoft says Windows 7 won't ship till mid-October
From Engaget "starting on June 26th, Best Buy will begin "pre-selling" the Windows 7 Home Premium Upgrade ($49.99) and the Windows 7 Professional Upgrade ($99.99). Have a look at the full letter below, and if you've come here for advice, here's the best we've got: don't buy a PC at Best Buy until June 26th."
If you buy a PC after June 26th, Best Buy will give you a free copy of the upgrade.
awesome, moving thread to deal discussion is basically killing it. If someone is considering buying a computer at Best Buy tomorrow, they need this info now.
advocatus said: awesome, moving thread to deal discussion is basically killing it. If someone is considering buying a computer at Best Buy tomorrow, they need this info now.
I would hope that since they use fatwallet they would not buy computers from bestbuy
jamesbodden said: advocatus said: awesome, moving thread to deal discussion is basically killing it. If someone is considering buying a computer at Best Buy tomorrow, they need this info now.
I would hope that since they use fatwallet they would not buy computers from bestbuy
Well we have a broad viewership so I'm not going to cast aspersions about their shopping habits, however I do think the Windows 7 upgrade price is a good one and people should know... rather then having it delegated to the forum that most people don't read.
Windows 7 is essentially what Vista was supposed to be. I've got over 100 pilot users so far, and feedback has been very positive. It does seem to play well with older hardware and it's much more resource friendly, especially with video performance.
windows 7 is probably the first OS i'm going to actually go out and buy, i'm using the beta on all four (from netbooks to desktops) of my computers and its very nice and stable, i love it. $49.99 is an amazing price for it. definitely going to get at least one copy of it. thanks OP
advocatus said: if you've come here for advice, here's the best we've got: don't buy a PC at Best Buy until June 26th." I have better advice. Don't buy a PC at Best Buy before or after June 26.
QUESTION I have win 7 rc on a partition it dosen't impress me. For someone like me whats to gain when all I do is surf ,e-mail and buy stuff off fatwallet. I'm running XP MCE 2005 WITH MSIE 8 AND SP 3 on other partition With WIN 7RC whats to gain other the bell and whistles in the graphics. Thanks in advance
SixthDay
Senior Member
posted: Jun. 11, 2009 @ 8:48a
Will Microsoft do a Windows tour and give away free Windows 7 as before?
gaore said: Thanks. Could I upgrade to W7 from XP SP3 OEM?
That is my question as well, and I don't have an answer personally. Everything I heard from Leo Laporte and read on Engaget etc etc mentioned an upgrade from Vista. I am also running XP, and am looking forward to being able to buy an affordable upgrade to Windows 7. My gut feeling however is that XP users will get the shaft in one way or the other. The $49.99 pre-order price is a great first step for Microsoft, and hopefully they will continue to reward their consumers with the ability to upgrade from XP rather than punish them.
I hope all the technical magazines and people stuck with Vista will pressure MS to replace Vista with free copies of Windows 7. This would do a lot to erase the bad feelings about the Vista disaster and may have an effect of business customers switching to Win 7.
I'd go buy this, but im wondering if it is really better than a stripped down version of vista... Vista will all of the nonsense graphic enhancements and UAC turned off works...
heewon311
New Member
posted: Jun. 11, 2009 @ 11:26a
this may be a dumb question but I've never upgraded Windows before. can I use the Windows 7 upgrade to upgrade the OEM version of Vista that shipped with my computer? and after upgrading to Windows 7 if I ever wanted to format/reinstall Windows would I need to reinstall Vista again before installing Windows 7 or does activating my upgraded version let me just install Windows 7 straight? Thanks for any help =)
handyguy said: Staples usually has a ton of free after rebate stuff you can get when you buy a new OS. I might wait & see what they have to offer.
I remember all the Office stores having great deals with XP, were the deals good with Vista too? I remember getting cameras, DVD drives, memory, CD's etc with XP. Decent stuff at the time. Don't remember anything exciting with Vista. Maybe I missed it.
EDIT: Come to think of it, Best Buy had good giveaways with XP like the Office Stores. I remember buying copies of Xp from them all and using coupons too.
Bolo334
New Member
posted: Jun. 11, 2009 @ 1:12p
I hate VISTA but I'm grown use to it. It's like a self destructive relationship.
Bolo334 said: I hate VISTA but I'm grown use to it. It's like a self destructive relationship.
If you have Vista SP2 installed you essentially have Win7 without the Win7 interface (ie explorer.exe et al). Vista SP2 brings Vista to 99.8% identical CRC verified Win7 binary code in both 32 and 64 bit editions.
mpcbeater said: I'd go buy this, but im wondering if it is really better than a stripped down version of vista... Vista will all of the nonsense graphic enhancements and UAC turned off works...
Magic Eight Ball says, "All signs point to YES!" ... but seriously the reviews back from multiple independent tech sources say it's what Vista should have been, and requires less processor and memory power for the OS (so more for your applications) and is far less buggy. For instance, Leo Laporte (from Call for Help, and TWIT) has it installed on a MSI Wind (netbook) and he says it runs beautifully.
If a netbook can run Windows 7, the it uses less power than Vista.
If you're curious, and you have an extra system (not your primary system) you can download and install the Windows 7 Release Candidate for free from Microsoft. It will stop working next year, but it's a way to test it out. (it won't actually stop working, it will force a reboot every two hours)
cnIsfg said: Bolo334 said: I hate VISTA but I'm grown use to it. It's like a self destructive relationship.
If you have Vista SP2 installed you essentially have Win7 without the Win7 interface (ie explorer.exe et al). Vista SP2 brings Vista to 99.8% identical CRC verified Win7 binary code in both 32 and 64 bit editions.Vista SP2 has Five Language package for English, French, German, Japanese, or Spanish (Traditional) while w7 has much more.
advocatus said: gaore said: Thanks. Could I upgrade to W7 from XP SP3 OEM?
That is my question as well, and I don't have an answer personally. Everything I heard from Leo Laporte and read on Engaget etc etc mentioned an upgrade from Vista. I am also running XP, and am looking forward to being able to buy an affordable upgrade to Windows 7. My gut feeling however is that XP users will get the shaft in one way or the other. The $49.99 pre-order price is a great first step for Microsoft, and hopefully they will continue to reward their consumers with the ability to upgrade from XP rather than punish them.
Bump, same question here.
Maybe Microsoft will do a tiered pricing model based on customer hassles. XP users get W7 for $200 and Vista users get W7 for free, plus a $200 check for their trouble
krk77
Senior Member
posted: Jun. 11, 2009 @ 3:40p
I am using Windows 7 RC for sometime now. It is far superior, beautifully implemented. mpcbeater said: I'd go buy this, but im wondering if it is really better than a stripped down version of vista... Vista will all of the nonsense graphic enhancements and UAC turned off works...
cnIsfg said: Bolo334 said: I hate VISTA but I'm grown use to it. It's like a self destructive relationship.
If you have Vista SP2 installed you essentially have Win7 without the Win7 interface (ie explorer.exe et al). Vista SP2 brings Vista to 99.8% identical CRC verified Win7 binary code in both 32 and 64 bit editions.
While I'm sure Vista SP2 is a cut above previous versions of Vista, all benchmarks I've seen indicate that Windows 7 is significantly faster than Vista and in several cases even faster than XP. I have been running Win 7 on my 4 year old laptop now since the beta was first leaked and recently installed the RC and have been amazed at how well it has run.
As for upgrading from XP to 7, I haven't seen anything conclusive but I would imagine Microsoft will allow it since there are still a large number of users on XP (myself included). Either way, $50 or $100 is a hell of a deal if you ask me.
One of the more exciting features for gamers is WARP which should help breathe some life back into the PC gaming market. It will basically allow you to use spare CPU bandwidth to accelerate DirectX applications meaning higher frame rates. I've read stats that a modern core2duo or quad core will yield 10+fps on top of whatever your current GPU can pump out. This article gives a good outline of what it did for certain processors in the game Crysis.
Why does every idiot under the sun think a new MS operating system is a "great upgrade" and a "must have" piece of software? Wait until you buy a new computer and you'll get it anyway. 9 times out of 10 upgrading your OS is more trouble than it's worth. The new features aren't really all that great to begin with. I swear, the only people worse than Windows fanboys are Apple fanboys. Both groups lack common sense.
michaelkenyon said: Why does every idiot under the sun think a new MS operating system is a "great upgrade" and a "must have" piece of software? Wait until you buy a new computer and you'll get it anyway. 9 times out of 10 upgrading your OS is more trouble than it's worth. The new features aren't really all that great to begin with. I swear, the only people worse than Windows fanboys are Apple fanboys. Both groups lack common sense.
Still using Windows '95 are you?
nickmetha
Member
posted: Jun. 11, 2009 @ 4:59p
I am using the Win 7 RC and like it very much. Would I need to do a new install or can I turn the RC into a full version?
michaelkenyon said: Why does every idiot under the sun think a new MS operating system is a "great upgrade" and a "must have" piece of software? Wait until you buy a new computer and you'll get it anyway. 9 times out of 10 upgrading your OS is more trouble than it's worth. The new features aren't really all that great to begin with. I swear, the only people worse than Windows fanboys are Apple fanboys. Both groups lack common sense.
Some of us build our systems so we will not be "getting it anyway". It's either buy the upgrade or pirate it.
parquedematthew said: cnIsfg said: Bolo334 said: I hate VISTA but I'm grown use to it. It's like a self destructive relationship.
If you have Vista SP2 installed you essentially have Win7 without the Win7 interface (ie explorer.exe et al). Vista SP2 brings Vista to 99.8% identical CRC verified Win7 binary code in both 32 and 64 bit editions.
While I'm sure Vista SP2 is a cut above previous versions of Vista, all benchmarks I've seen indicate that Windows 7 is significantly faster than Vista and in several cases even faster than XP. I have been running Win 7 on my 4 year old laptop now since the beta was first leaked and recently installed the RC and have been amazed at how well it has run.
As for upgrading from XP to 7, I haven't seen anything conclusive but I would imagine Microsoft will allow it since there are still a large number of users on XP (myself included). Either way, $50 or $100 is a hell of a deal if you ask me.
One of the more exciting features for gamers is WARP which should help breathe some life back into the PC gaming market. It will basically allow you to use spare CPU bandwidth to accelerate DirectX applications meaning higher frame rates. I've read stats that a modern core2duo or quad core will yield 10+fps on top of whatever your current GPU can pump out. This article gives a good outline of what it did for certain processors in the game Crysis.
Show me a single benchmark that shows WIn 7 is faster than Vista SP2. They don't exist and in fact 99% of all Vista benchmark comparisons are based on the original Vista RTM code now over two years old. Microsoft realized that no matter how much they fixed Vista the OS was never going to recover its initial bad rep hence Win 7. At the very least you have to finally give MS for marketing convincing many here that WIn 7 is in somehow substantially different than Vista SP2. It looks like MS got smart and hired some of Apple's marketing illusionists
nickmetha
Member
posted: Jun. 11, 2009 @ 6:48p
cnIsfg said: nickmetha said: I am using the Win 7 RC and like it very much. Would I need to do a new install or can I turn the RC into a full version?
You can't upgrade Win 7 RC to full. However you can back your settings and data and restore to a Win 7 full install.
Basically, I would have to buy a full version and then do an install
nickmetha said: cnIsfg said: nickmetha said: I am using the Win 7 RC and like it very much. Would I need to do a new install or can I turn the RC into a full version?
You can't upgrade Win 7 RC to full. However you can back your settings and data and restore to a Win 7 full install.
Basically, I would have to buy a full version and then do an install
Thanks
No as with past MS OS upgrades you can install the Win 7 upgrade as new full install as long as you have an XP or Vista disk laying around to insert when asked during the initial Win 7 install process. You should easily be able to get the retail Win 7 upgrade for $50 or less given the numberous retailer Win 7 upgrade promotions that will be around when Win 7 is released.
Speaking of the real world, many have asked about upgrading from Windows XP. There's no change here to the plan as has been discussed on many forums. We realized at the start of this project that the “upgrade” from XP would not be an experience we think would yield the best results. There are simply too many changes in how PCs have been configured (applets, hardware support, driver model, etc.) that having all of that support carry forth to Windows 7 would not be nearly as high quality as a clean install. This is something many of you know and already practice. We do provide support for moving files and settings and will prompt at setup time, but applications will need to be reinstalled. We know that for a set of customers this tradeoff seems less than perfect, but we think the upfront time is well worth it.
UPdownLoAD said: I installed it on a friends Acer Netbook he just got from the CompUSA $199 deal and it runs CIRCLES around my dual-core 4gb Vista Home Pro system!!Nice use of "CompUSA" in a BestBuy thread.
I have issues with Vista SP2 (and SP1) maintaining network connections to my networked NAS & HP printer. NAS & Printer are on wired Ethernet, Vista Laptop is connected via WAN. I don't have these issues with my XP laptop, also via WAN. I'm therefore hoping that those claiming Win7 is closer to XP are right than those who claim Win7 = Vista SP2. Also, the driver for my LG Dare works great on XP but is no good on Vista.
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