Keep in mind that in some cases, more discounts maybe available on the difference from the MSRP - $4,500 clunker - Rebates. Those other discounts can include bonues rebates, unannounced dealer cash, military discounts, corporate discounts, warehouse discounts (Cost co / Samms Mis SP on purpose), Dealer group incentives, regional variations of these programs may also apply.
Ahnold said: Have you researched this at all? You'd need a clunker rated at 11-13 mpg to get $4500 back on most of those.
I think OP's name says it all: Dreamer
polishdreamer said: Almost every older SUV qualifies.
And in a lot of those cases these SUVs are worth $4500+. Going with an SUV to subcompact downgrade might mean having to get rid of the boat, camper, etc. as well.
Ahnold said: Have you researched this at all? You'd need a clunker rated at 11-13 mpg to get $4500 back on most of those.
Actually it is an average of 18MPG rating. You must be doing your research on a Commodore64. Maybe you need a cash for clunker computer program? from www.cars.gov... "Generally, trade-in vehicles must get 18 or less MPG (some very large pick-up trucks and cargo vans have different requirements)"
aCheapsk8r
New Member
posted: Aug. 1, 2009 @ 9:26p
I wish I could UPGRADE to some of the "clunkers" I have seen on tv. A lot of them are nicer than my car which doesn't qualify.
I think that military college students with a clunker to trade-in and who are current Hyundai "lease loyalty" customers (to get the advertised $1999 price) are quite a bit of a minority.
My mother's 1999 Blazer qualified for the 4500. She just got a 2009 Jeep Patriot 2.4 MSRP $18740 for $11,000 tax, tag, title, everything included in the $11,000.
sardarji said: I have 1997 Honda Accord - wrecked front hood and bumper damaged. Is this car qualified? It does gives 32 MPG.
No, the car must be 18 MPG or lower (with the exception of some trucks/vans). The only way that your car could qualify is *possibly* if it had a V6. see linky
Fission7x said: Remember too, that you're eligible for at least the salvage value of your "clunker" in addition to the $4500 government subsidy money.
Can you please provide a link for the info?
rameshms1
New Member
posted: Aug. 1, 2009 @ 10:22p
If you use this link http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/CarsSelectYear1.jsp, you can determine which vehicle qualifies and which does not. Apparently, the VW Routan does not qualify.
bargain88
Addicted Member
posted: Aug. 1, 2009 @ 10:55p
PirateSteve said: Fission7x said: Remember too, that you're eligible for at least the salvage value of your "clunker" in addition to the $4500 government subsidy money. Can you please provide a link for the info?
LOL, My neighbor wanted to trade in a 2006 SUV valued at $12,000+ and couldn't understand that all he'd get is $4500 **OR** the trade in value but not both. He thought you were "trading in" the vehicle and got the trade-in value PLUS the clunker rebate. I tried to explain to him that what you turn in has to be demolished for scrap to get it off the road. Duhhhh
PirateSteve said: My mother's 1999 Blazer qualified for the 4500. She just got a 2009 Jeep Patriot 2.4 MSRP $18740 for $11,000 tax, tag, title, everything included in the $11,000.
She is VERY lucky as I spent all day working the phone and laptop trying to find one from Springfield, IL to Marion, IL to St. Louis, MO, to Danville, Il, to LaSalle, IL, to Davenport, IA to....
And never found a Patriot or Compass and very few Calibers...
And thank you for the info on salvage as I did not know that!
"The program requires the scrapping of your eligible trade-in vehicle, and that the dealer disclose to you an estimate of the scrap value of your trade-in. The scrap value, however minimal, will be in addition to the rebate, and not in place of the rebate."
can you buy a salvage car and trade in to dealer to get Clunkers $4500 off a new vehicle ?
bobley
Member
posted: Aug. 1, 2009 @ 11:20p
C320 said:
And in a lot of those cases these SUVs are worth $4500+. Going with an SUV to subcompact downgrade might mean having to get rid of the boat, camper, etc. as well.
cuchuoi said: can you buy a salvage car and trade in to dealer to get Clunkers $4500 off a new vehicle ? No, it has to have been titled and insured in your name for the past year.
Wasn't it just a few years ago Congress was subsidizing the purchase of these clunkers when they passed the law where you could buy a hummer and depreciate all of it in one year as long as it was a "business expense." So we subsidized these crap cars on the way out of GM and now we subsidize them on the way out to the scrap heap. Utterly short sited at every turn. And we want these same people to design our healthcare system?
You have to show you have owned the car for a year to qualify. Unfortunately, this limits the FW'er side of me. I would like a piece of this, considering I'm subsidizing the idiots who bought these cars and can't afford them anymore. I would be trolling CL for any piece of crap I could trade in.
MillionairesNextDoor said: Wasn't it just a few years ago Congress was subsidizing the purchase of these clunkers when they passed the law where you could buy a hummer and depreciate all of it in one year as long as it was a "business expense." So we subsidized these crap cars on the way out of GM and now we subsidize them on the way out to the scrap heap. Utterly short sited at every turn. And we want these same people to design our healthcare system?
You have to show you have owned the car for a year to qualify. Unfortunately, this limits the FW'er side of me. I would like a piece of this, considering I'm subsidizing the idiots who bought these cars and can't afford them anymore. I would be trolling CL for any piece of crap I could trade in.
RE: considering I'm subsidizing the idiots who bought these cars
Huh? I am sure they are upside down more that $4500
bfd853
Member
posted: Aug. 2, 2009 @ 1:49a
Another "deal" is the only BMW that qualifies for the program, the BMW 335d - diesel. If your car qualifies for the $4500 fed credit, BMW will give you another $4500 "Eco Credit" PLUS you get a $900 Tax CREDIT! That's basically $10K off, before any negotiations! Of course, the base price of this car is $43K. Still, $10K off is over 20% discount. Not too bad.
One caveat, the BMW 335d *only* comes with an auto transmission, not exactly BMW's strong point. Good Luck!
polishdreamer said: Ford: $4,500 clunker money plus $3,000 incentives off a $16,035 base price Focus = $8,535.
Kia: $4,500 clunker money plus $3,500 incentives off a $13,550 Spectra = $5,550
Chrysler: $4,500 clunker money plus $4,500 incentive off a $18,720 PT Cruiser LX = $9,720
Suzuki: $4,500 clunker money plus $2,000 incentive off a $13,299 SX4 = $6,799
Honda: $4,500 clunker money on the lease of a Civic for about $730 drive-off payment and $135 a month for five years.
General Motors: $4,500 clunker money plus $2,000 bonus cash on an already discounted $14,759 Pontiac G3 5-door = $8,259.
Mazda: $4,500 clunker money plus $500 incentive off a $15,045 Mazda3 = $10,045
Volkswagen: $4,500 clunker money plus $4,000 incentives off a $25,200 Routan minivan = $16,700
where did you get these info from? i am interested in leasing a car thinking about toyota corolla or camry honda civic or accord..volkawagen jetta any good lease deal in socal area? thanx
How much money have people been getting for the scrap value of their "clunkers"?
I just cashed in my 1994 Lexus SC300 and the dealer got $50 for the scrap value but I didn't get anything. I know some lady got $150 for her Toyota Previa, so I just wanted to see if I got screwed out of $100 or so. I know it may not seem like a lot, but $100 is still $100. Hopefully fellow FWers understand. Fridge full of beer, 4 tanks of gas in a new Corolla, etc. It would've been nice.
cjthelegend said: Is the qualification cut and dry by whats listed on the cars.org website or do they measure the combined gas mileage at the dealership? My car listed new is about 21 combined mileage but that is forsure not the case now. -Fueleconomy.gov provides the official fuel mileage ratings used for c4c. They're judging clunkers by gas mileage according to new epa method, not the old one that posted on your car when you bought it new many years ago. If I deduced correctly, you have the 97 Camry V6 Automatic, right? That's the least fuel efficient Camry made that year, and fueleconomy.gov says it gets 19MPG combined with the new ratings, 21 combined with the old ratings. Sorry man you got burned by 1 MPG.
Just out of curiosity, how many miles does your 97 Camry have?
To get back to the actual topic of the OP original post, I purchased a 2010 Corolla base model with the manual, cold weather package, and all weather mats for 100% financing including tax, title, etc for $0 down and $273/month for 36 months. This is with Toyota's 0.0% 36 month APR, and Mass 5% tax. Plus I get to deduct what I paid in sales+excise tax on my next tax return, just like anyone else buying a new car this year.
cjthelegend
New Member
posted: Aug. 2, 2009 @ 2:11a
Is the qualification cut and dry by whats listed on the cars.org website or do they measure the combined gas mileage at the dealership? My car listed new is about 21 combined mileage but that is forsure not the case now.
KyTom said: timschramm said: Does anyone know anything about the new program put together by the major car dealers (now that the government one is in question)?
The government just infused 2 BILLION in the Cash for Clunkers program. It is still going strong.
According to the media, that still needs to be voted upon...
Although, my distrust of the media is only slightly higher than car salespeople...
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cjthelegend
New Member
posted: Aug. 2, 2009 @ 2:20a
Also any suggestions on when and what to buy if my 97 Camry does not qualify. This badboy is on it's last legs so I need to start looking for a new car quick. I figure this weekend is not a good time look because the dealerships will be stiff on prices because of the clunker frenzy. I really like the deal on the pt cruiser but does the incentives qualify if your not doing a clunker. This is my first car purchase so any advise would be greatly appreciated.
cjthelegend
New Member
posted: Aug. 2, 2009 @ 2:28a
chesspokerface said: How much money have people been getting for the scrap value of their "clunkers"?
I just cashed in my 1994 Lexus SC300 and the dealer got $50 for the scrap value but I didn't get anything. I know some lady got $150 for her Toyota Previa, so I just wanted to see if I got screwed out of $100 or so. I know it may not seem like a lot I know, but $100 is still $100. Hopefully fellow FWers understand. Fridge full of beer, 4 tanks of gas in my a Corolla, etc. It would've been nice.
cjthelegend said: Is the qualification cut and dry by whats listed on the cars.org website or do they measure the combined gas mileage at the dealership? My car listed new is about 21 combined mileage but that is forsure not the case now. -fueleconomy.gov provides the official fuel mileage ratings used for c4c. They're judging clunkers by gas mileage according to new epa method, not the old one that posted on your car when you bought it new many years ago. My SC300 was rated at 18 or 19 combined with the old method, but with the new method it's 17 MPG combined.
Yeah thats what I figured, my family was telling me they probably do it at the dealership but I didn't see how that would be possible.
The 2 billion went through but now has to be voted in by the senate, which I guess is up in the air.
NewToFatWalletUser
Dismembered Member
posted: Aug. 2, 2009 @ 2:47a
Pontiac is having incentives of $4k. The models are very affordable.
zettler said: PirateSteve said: My mother's 1999 Blazer qualified for the 4500. She just got a 2009 Jeep Patriot 2.4 MSRP $18740 for $11,000 tax, tag, title, everything included in the $11,000.
She is VERY lucky as I spent all day working the phone and laptop trying to find one from Springfield, IL to Marion, IL to St. Louis, MO, to Danville, Il, to LaSalle, IL, to Davenport, IA to....
And never found a Patriot or Compass and very few Calibers...
And thank you for the info on salvage as I did not know that!
"The program requires the scrapping of your eligible trade-in vehicle, and that the dealer disclose to you an estimate of the scrap value of your trade-in. The scrap value, however minimal, will be in addition to the rebate, and not in place of the rebate."
I know what you mean, there were 8 Patriots in stock the day we were looking. We shopped Kia, Toyota, Honda and came back to Jeep 1 day later they were all sold but 2. No dealer within 75 online search would touch that deal as they only had 1-3 if any in stock.
forbin4040 said: yesidonoitall said: Cash for clunkers still in effect for one dealer
We have a dealer who hawks: Did you miss out on cash for clunkers?????????? We have made a special arrangement with uncle sam and our financiers to offer it to you.... >>>very fine print says on selected vehicles and financed with us.
How shiesterish can they get?By selling you the 'selected' vehicles at List. That's how rip off they can be.
Thats what he was selling, highly loaded cars which would get the $4000 off of list anyway
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