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Either you are going to be honest or your not. If you're going to "legitimize" your illegal software, why bother paying anything to someone on eBay. Just go to any of the popular torrent sites and you can easily get keys and/or software that will make your copy of Window 7 "legal".
Like I said - either you're honest or you're not. But, paying for illegally obtained software just doesn't make sense to me.
mikeres said:Either you are going to be honest or your not. If you're going to "legitimize" your illegal software, why bother paying anything to someone on eBay. Just go to any of the popular torrent sites and you can easily get keys and/or software that will make your copy of Window 7 "legal".
Like I said - either you're honest or you're not. But, paying for illegally obtained software just doesn't make sense to me.
Can you confirm for me 100% that the sellers that are selling their "illegal" serial numbers "directly from Microsoft with money-back guarantee" are warez/illegal? That's my whole point of this thread- is it legit or not.
UPdownLoAD said:mikeres said:Either you are going to be honest or your not. If you're going to "legitimize" your illegal software, why bother paying anything to someone on eBay. Just go to any of the popular torrent sites and you can easily get keys and/or software that will make your copy of Window 7 "legal".
Like I said - either you're honest or you're not. But, paying for illegally obtained software just doesn't make sense to me.
Can you confirm for me 100% that the sellers that are selling their "illegal" serial numbers "directly from Microsoft with money-back guarantee" are warez/illegal? That's my whole point of this thread- is it legit or not.
I don't think you'll know unless you're asking microsoft. There are different channels for getting the product and keys. On my old system with XP, it was passing validation for several years until XP told me one day it was not a genuine copy. I believe the guy who built the machine (sister's ex) used a corporate volume licensing key which was valid until it was flagged as compromised. I'm sure the keys you get off eBay would be valid but the question is whether it'll be valid 6 months from now?
Message edited by: seawolf21 on 2009-10-22 01:05:42 CDT
UPdownLoAD said:mikeres said:Either you are going to be honest or your not. If you're going to "legitimize" your illegal software, why bother paying anything to someone on eBay. Just go to any of the popular torrent sites and you can easily get keys and/or software that will make your copy of Window 7 "legal".
Like I said - either you're honest or you're not. But, paying for illegally obtained software just doesn't make sense to me.
Can you confirm for me 100% that the sellers that are selling their "illegal" serial numbers "directly from Microsoft with money-back guarantee" are warez/illegal? That's my whole point of this thread- is it legit or not.You are really missing the point! The question is not whether the keys being sold on eBay are legitimate keys (they may very well be legitimate). What you're proposing though is akin to purchasing stolen merchandise.
If someone offered to sell you a gold bracelet for $20, the question is not whether it is really gold, but rather is the seller the rightful owner.
Like I said earlier, and this time let me be perfectly clear, if you're going to be a crook why bother paying anything? If you're going to steal, just download the keys and/or software directly from a torrent or newsgroup. Don't pretend what you're doing is legit. The keys you purchase may be legit, but anyone that engages in these activities is a thief. Let your conscience be your guide.
mikeres said: If someone offered to sell you a gold bracelet for $20, the question is not whether it is really gold, but rather is the seller the rightful owner.
Actually I think the main question would be if its real.
Back on topic, I personally wouldn't buy a cd key from eBay regardless of source (small business making $$$ or home user "dumping software"). Not worth the anxiety turning on the computer every day asking yourself "will I get that stupid genuine advantage notification today?".
Only buy from legit, authorized resellers when it comes to serialized items.
Now that Microsoft has actually made some of their prices reasonable, especially .edu deals, I think many more people (myself included) are willing to buy rather than only get a new OS when they buy a computer or source it elsewhere. Why would I buy a key on eBay for W7 when I can get one from Microsoft for $29.99 + tax? I'm downloading the ISO now and I already have the key which was emailed to me with my order confirmation.
mikeres said:UPdownLoAD said:mikeres said:Either you are going to be honest or your not. If you're going to "legitimize" your illegal software, why bother paying anything to someone on eBay. Just go to any of the popular torrent sites and you can easily get keys and/or software that will make your copy of Window 7 "legal".
Like I said - either you're honest or you're not. But, paying for illegally obtained software just doesn't make sense to me.
Can you confirm for me 100% that the sellers that are selling their "illegal" serial numbers "directly from Microsoft with money-back guarantee" are warez/illegal? That's my whole point of this thread- is it legit or not.You are really missing the point! The question is not whether the keys being sold on eBay are legitimate keys (they may very well be legitimate). What you're proposing though is akin to purchasing stolen merchandise.
If someone offered to sell you a gold bracelet for $20, the question is not whether it is really gold, but rather is the seller the rightful owner.
Like I said earlier, and this time let me be perfectly clear, if you're going to be a crook why bother paying anything? If you're going to steal, just download the keys and/or software directly from a torrent or newsgroup. Don't pretend what you're doing is legit. The keys you purchase may be legit, but anyone that engages in these activities is a thief. Let your conscience be your guide.
hey dude, eBay/Microsoft could easily pull these auctions if bogus. Stop screaming "crook and stealing" unless you can 100% verify they are. There may very well be some legit loophole that these resellers obtained these product keys, it may not be 100% ethical, but that does not mean they are stolen by crooks as you say.
MISTERCHEAP said:mikeres said:UPdownLoAD said:mikeres said:Either you are going to be honest or your not. If you're going to "legitimize" your illegal software, why bother paying anything to someone on eBay. Just go to any of the popular torrent sites and you can easily get keys and/or software that will make your copy of Window 7 "legal".
Like I said - either you're honest or you're not. But, paying for illegally obtained software just doesn't make sense to me.
Can you confirm for me 100% that the sellers that are selling their "illegal" serial numbers "directly from Microsoft with money-back guarantee" are warez/illegal? That's my whole point of this thread- is it legit or not.You are really missing the point! The question is not whether the keys being sold on eBay are legitimate keys (they may very well be legitimate). What you're proposing though is akin to purchasing stolen merchandise.
If someone offered to sell you a gold bracelet for $20, the question is not whether it is really gold, but rather is the seller the rightful owner.
Like I said earlier, and this time let me be perfectly clear, if you're going to be a crook why bother paying anything? If you're going to steal, just download the keys and/or software directly from a torrent or newsgroup. Don't pretend what you're doing is legit. The keys you purchase may be legit, but anyone that engages in these activities is a thief. Let your conscience be your guide.
hey dude, eBay/Microsoft could easily pull these auctions if bogus. Stop screaming "crook and stealing" unless you can 100% verify they are. There may very well be some legit loophole that these resellers obtained these product keys, it may not be 100% ethical, but that does not mean they are stolen by crooks as you say.
I haven't seen 1 of these auctions pulled yet. The only Windows 7 auctions I've seen pulled are for the Windows 7 CDs that were given away from hosting a party.
I can't believe that no one knows if these are coming from a legit loophole or not. Take a look at one of the closed auctions: Auction 1
Had the key in about 5 minutes from winning the auction. I used my Windows 7 Professional upgrade CD to upgrade a PC from Vista Home Premium, and then after upgrading, I used the Windows Anytime Upgrade and entered the key I received from eBay. It registered and activated 100%.
So for those on the fence, this is a GO, but I'd still like to know where they're getting the keys from........
Had the key in about 5 minutes from winning the auction. I used my Windows 7 Professional upgrade CD to upgrade a PC from Vista Home Premium, and then after upgrading, I used the Windows Anytime Upgrade and entered the key I received from eBay. It registered and activated 100%.
So for those on the fence, this is a GO, but I'd still like to know where they're getting the keys from........
Probably from a TechNet subscription (you get 10 licenses from the start and can request more if needed) or from a MSDN account. Also the possibility of a MS ActivePack Subscription for businesses. All sorts of ways to get the keys ... problem is, they are not to be resold. And/or they may limited to one install (i.e. if you ever reformat and need to install again, MS will not give you a manual authorization to reinstall it.)
Message edited by: ShadowedBlade on 2009-10-24 15:12:58 CDT
you are buying it on faith. the key might be valid for now, but who is to prevent the seller from reselling the key a year from now? Or two years from now? Next thing you know it, your key will be blocked and you're out $20. The seller would be long gone by then. I know this because I recently got scammed by buying a kaspersky 5year CD key. The key worked fine for 6months, then I got blacklisted and seller cancelled his eBay and paypal account. Paypal would not even deal with it. thankfully I have AMEX and they took care of me in 1sec (literally) through online dispute.
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