My daughter in-law works at Wal-Mart and in their meeting last night they announced new Blackfriday (event Day) rules.
First of all they will not call it Black Friday this year, it is Event Day!
Now for the trouble, to help stop the fighting in Wal-Mart on BlackFriday, they will close the stores for 2 hours to set up all items. Everyone will have to get a ticket for each item they want and wait a in line while the items are handed out by employees, you will have to do this for each item you want (one ticket for each item, different line for each item) and you can only obtain 1 of each item unless you go get another ticket and wait in the line again (You can not get 2 items at the same time).
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Don't agree with the different line for each item, but if it keeps morons from trampling over each other I guess they have to do it... I could care less one way or another because I do all my Black Friday shopping online in the comfort of my living room...
lol black friday- i guess that's considered a non-pc term for some? Maybe the trampling deaths of a WalMart employee has last year has something to do with this?
Why not just hire security guards that are off-duty police officers to arrest those who are aggressive or shove people out of the way. Or only let so many people in the store at one time? I think people act more orderly when there's police presence.
What's to stop people from beating up others to get their limited number of tickets? The type of people that trample others to death probably have no qualms about kicking someone's a$$ to steal their ticket.
TxAggieJen said:Why not just hire security guards that are off-duty police officers to arrest those who are aggressive or shove people out of the way. Or only let so many people in the store at one time? I think people act more orderly when there's police presence.
What's to stop people from beating up others to get their limited number of tickets? The type of people that trample others to death probably have no qualms about kicking someone's a$$ to steal their ticket.
Um, off-duty police officers cost money. Having already-working employees hand out paper tickets (which are a tiny cost) does not cost any extra money that what they would normally be paying. Other stores, like Best Buy, hand out tickets on Black Friday -- it's logical, first come, first served; i.e. no need to push to get to get into the store to beat others to an item, which causes trampling. It's not like there are trampling criminals out there who go around stepping on people's heads and planning that into their Black Friday shopping. It's an unfortunate tragedy from people pushing to get past each other. Pushing to get past and beating people up for tickets are two completely different animals, so I think you're being a bit dramatic.
green14 said:TxAggieJen said:Why not just hire security guards that are off-duty police officers to arrest those who are aggressive or shove people out of the way. Or only let so many people in the store at one time? I think people act more orderly when there's police presence.
What's to stop people from beating up others to get their limited number of tickets? The type of people that trample others to death probably have no qualms about kicking someone's a$$ to steal their ticket.
Um, off-duty police officers cost money.
<snip>.. so I think you're being a bit dramatic.
Wow, you think you can make your point without being confrontational or making it personal?
TxAggieJen said:green14 said:TxAggieJen said:Why not just hire security guards that are off-duty police officers to arrest those who are aggressive or shove people out of the way. Or only let so many people in the store at one time? I think people act more orderly when there's police presence.
What's to stop people from beating up others to get their limited number of tickets? The type of people that trample others to death probably have no qualms about kicking someone's a$$ to steal their ticket.
Um, off-duty police officers cost money.
<snip>.. so I think you're being a bit dramatic.
Wow, you think you can make your point without being confrontational or making it personal?
I was just making a suggestion.
I'm positive that I could, but it wouldn't be as fun or effective. Kinda like condoms, I guess.
Not going to work -- the "line" at black friday turns into a disorderly mob as the opening time approaches. People showing up at the last minute pushing their way in. The WalMart employees are supposed to walk out into this and hand out tickets -- I don't see this happening as planned. In previous years when anyone walked out with tickets at other stores, it was grabbed out of their hands in shoving and pulling matches that turned into a free for all. I watched it all from the warmth of my car then drove off for more sleep and now do the shopping online...
Tickets don't work always. Case in point, I sent one of my employees to the local WalMart this past Saturday to see if we could get one of the $498 Sharp LCD. She got there at 7am, and the store had just 3 of the Sharp TVs and she was just in time to get the 3rd and last ticket. Since they would not let her get the TV until 8am, she wondered the store to kill time. At about 5 minutes till she walked back to pick up the TV and found all of them gone! She walked up to the cash register and asked the guy there and they found that another woman had simply gone to where the TVs were, and put one in her cart. My employee showed her ticket but the woman was adamant and would not give up the TV. She started cussing and arguing and even said to my employee that she'd better get the ***k out of her face.
My employee called me and asked what to do. I told her to just forget it and get back to work.
What made it worse was that the manager did not want to do what was right and simply said there was nothing he could do to force the woman to give up the TV, even though she did not have a ticket.
Tickets or no tickets, there are some people who are going to get their way either by intimidation (and a corresponding unwilingness to enforce rules on the part of the store employees) or by other shoppers not wantingto create a scene.
martin628 said:Not going to work -- the "line" at black friday turns into a disorderly mob as the opening time approaches. People showing up at the last minute pushing their way in. The WalMart employees are supposed to walk out into this and hand out tickets -- I don't see this happening as planned. In previous years when anyone walked out with tickets at other stores, it was grabbed out of their hands in shoving and pulling matches that turned into a free for all. I watched it all from the warmth of my car then drove off for more sleep and now do the shopping online...
Where do you live, the Bronx? I've been BF shopping for YEARS, experiencing the ticket system, and have never seen anything less civil than grumbles from people who didn't get a ticket.
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