There's a $20 instant rebate (no coupon) to get to the $119 price. I already had one of these drives, and I just bought two more. The one I've had is blazing fast, and has worked great. Amazon's price is $139.
My Costco just created a MASSIVE display of these things in the middle of electronics, so I think they expect to sell a bunch.
In case you're interested in cracking this open and using the drive inside: There's a Costco label over the actual product label, but when you peel it off you can see that the model # on the box is STAC3000102. After firing it up, the Seagate software believes the model # is STAC3000602. So make of that what you will.
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MontyBurnsFW
Senior Member
posted: Jul. 13, 2012 @ 2:50p
D'oh. Sorry for the upside down sign. But now I kind of like it...
Tarajunky
Senior Member
posted: Jul. 13, 2012 @ 4:20p
Is this the one that comes with a 5yr warranty?
MontyBurnsFW
Senior Member
posted: Jul. 13, 2012 @ 4:39p
You get a 2-year warranty from Seagate. You can return it to Costco anytime during your lifetime for a full refund.
But, I will say what I always say when hard drive warranty debates come up: We're talking about $119. No one is going to give you the warranty that matters most, which is that your data stays protected. Having a hard drive crash and losing a couple years worth of photos is not going to feel any better just because somebody replaces the hard drive for free.
I'm a big fan of Crashplan for continuous off-site backups. I have over 1 TB backed up with them. Works great, and the restores are blazing fast. All for about $50/year.
rxblitzrx
Senior Member
posted: Jul. 13, 2012 @ 4:44p
Are you sure you can return it to Costco for refund? I thought their electronics return policy is now 90 days.
karmasalad
Ancient Member
posted: Jul. 13, 2012 @ 4:50p
"We guarantee your satisfaction on every product we sell with a full refund. The following must be returned within 90 days of purchase for a refund: televisions, projectors, computers, cameras, camcorders, touch screen tablets, MP3 players and cellular phones."
Hard drives are not in the 90-day list.
sulu1953
New Member
posted: Jul. 13, 2012 @ 5:34p
I looked but did not find this info online - but is this a 5400 RPM or 7200 RPM drive?
TIA.
MontyBurnsFW said: There's a $20 instant rebate (no coupon) to get to the $119 price. I already had one of these drives, and I just bought two more. The one I've had is blazing fast, and has worked great. Amazon's price is $139.
My Costco just created a MASSIVE display of these things in the middle of electronics, so I think they expect to sell a bunch.
In case you're interested in cracking this open and using the drive inside: There's a Costco label over the actual product label, but when you peel it off you can see that the model # on the box is STAC3000102. After firing it up, the Seagate software believes the model # is STAC3000602. So make of that what you will.
MontyBurnsFW
Senior Member
posted: Jul. 13, 2012 @ 6:05p
sulu1953 said: I looked but did not find this info online - but is this a 5400 RPM or 7200 RPM drive?
TIA.
MontyBurnsFW said: There's a $20 instant rebate (no coupon) to get to the $119 price. I already had one of these drives, and I just bought two more. The one I've had is blazing fast, and has worked great. Amazon's price is $139.
My Costco just created a MASSIVE display of these things in the middle of electronics, so I think they expect to sell a bunch.
In case you're interested in cracking this open and using the drive inside: There's a Costco label over the actual product label, but when you peel it off you can see that the model # on the box is STAC3000102. After firing it up, the Seagate software believes the model # is STAC3000602. So make of that what you will.
According to random geeks on the Internet I can't vouch for but seem to know what they're talking about, it contains a 7200rpm drive with 5 platters of 800GB each.
rocks
Member
posted: Jul. 13, 2012 @ 6:37p
WARNING to people with WIN 7 thinking of getting any drives over 2TB:
I got one of these at costco yesterday, it is very fast on my 3.0 usb port. But, trying to back up on it, I then spent several hours discovering that you will not be able to use Win 7's back up function with any of these external HD over 2TB, off the shelf. Win 7 doesn't write to these 4k sized sectors on the 2tb and up drives, thanks MS.
Just do a search on Windows Backup Error: 0x8078002A on 2.5TB and 3TB. Might get fixed on Win 8, don't hold your breath.
You can use other backup programs possibly, but why bother? Or reformat sector size, but why bother?
So I temporarily back up an image to a partition, then copy to the seagate. Silly.
I use crashplan, too; its great.
MontyBurnsFW
Senior Member
posted: Jul. 13, 2012 @ 6:50p
Rocks,
I'm sure you already tried this, but the drive does come with some sort of Windows 7 backup software from Seagate. (Maybe the incompatibility with Win7's auto-backup features is why.) It also comes with a package of Mac tools. If you've already deleted them because you reformatted and want me to send them to you, send me a PM with your contact details.
Also, here's a link on Seagate's forums where some people discuss workarounds. It does sound like this is a common issue with Windows 7 and drives this size.
Thanks for your offer of help. The seagate came with memeo lite for free (looks like only does file back up), and 1 month free trial for real memeo programs (e.g. imaging I think). One forum said free Paragon Backup program does work with the large drives. No confirmable good news for the other 3rd party freeware working well on these 3tb drives..
Probably I'll keep the drive for data/media files. Eventually get a 2TB for images. Please post your deals for 2TB drives!
ressun
New Member
posted: Jul. 13, 2012 @ 9:11p
Is there any reason why external hard drives are cheaper than internal hard drives these days? Don't think you can pick up an internal 3TB drive at such prices.
ironfist99
Ancient Member
posted: Jul. 14, 2012 @ 12:38a
MontyBurnsFW said: sulu1953 said: I looked but did not find this info online - but is this a 5400 RPM or 7200 RPM drive?
TIA.
MontyBurnsFW said: There's a $20 instant rebate (no coupon) to get to the $119 price. I already had one of these drives, and I just bought two more. The one I've had is blazing fast, and has worked great. Amazon's price is $139.
My Costco just created a MASSIVE display of these things in the middle of electronics, so I think they expect to sell a bunch.
In case you're interested in cracking this open and using the drive inside: There's a Costco label over the actual product label, but when you peel it off you can see that the model # on the box is STAC3000102. After firing it up, the Seagate software believes the model # is STAC3000602. So make of that what you will.
According to random geeks on the Internet I can't vouch for but seem to know what they're talking about, it contains a 7200rpm drive with 5 platters of 800GB each.
I bought 4 of these for a Raid 5 array when they were 129.99. All of my drives were 7200RPM drives w/ 3 1TB platters or this drive:
rocks said: WARNING to people with WIN 7 thinking of getting any drives over 2TB:
I got one of these at costco yesterday, it is very fast on my 3.0 usb port. But, trying to back up on it, I then spent several hours discovering that you will not be able to use Win 7's back up function with any of these external HD over 2TB, off the shelf. Win 7 doesn't write to these 4k sized sectors on the 2tb and up drives, thanks MS.
Just do a search on Windows Backup Error: 0x8078002A on 2.5TB and 3TB. Might get fixed on Win 8, don't hold your breath.
You can use other backup programs possibly, but why bother? Or reformat sector size, but why bother?
So I temporarily back up an image to a partition, then copy to the seagate. Silly.
I use crashplan, too; its great.
Very few people use the windows image backup. Probably just you and Steve Balmer. The win image tool is so infleible that burning an image and moving it it not a big hassle considering you cannot even update incrementally that image. So you burn a new image every time which makes no sense when drive image and shadow protect will give incrementals and most likely have no issues with the drive. Same for Driveimage XML a free tool.
Reesun said: Is there any reason why external hard drives are cheaper than internal hard drives these days? Don't think you can pick up an internal 3TB drive at such prices.
I'm going out on a limb here, but these may be slightly below spec drives that are just fine for USB speed interfaces, but not up to commercial specs for the original model. Opening the case voids the warranty, sort of obviating warranty obligations for the manufacturer. Microprocessor, memory chip, and other vendors have long used a similar strategy to get higher market yields (i.e., revenue) from each batch of chips they mass manufacture. Hopefully these are not returns/rejects from customers. I've used the external drives for years and have been quite satisfied, but my needs are 'consumer grade,' not commercial.
meggacat
Senior Member
posted: Jul. 14, 2012 @ 7:25a
Sure.....I back up both my computers to an external drive....gotta do it......but once a month, I burn the whole mess to a DVD....takes 15 minutes.....I will never lose my data again.
KMCHERRY
Senior Member
posted: Jul. 14, 2012 @ 8:31a
AnAceBuyer said: Reesun said: Is there any reason why external hard drives are cheaper than internal hard drives these days? Don't think you can pick up an internal 3TB drive at such prices.
I'm going out on a limb here, but these may be slightly below spec drives that are just fine for USB speed interfaces, but not up to commercial specs for the original model. Opening the case voids the warranty, sort of obviating warranty obligations for the manufacturer. Microprocessor, memory chip, and other vendors have long used a similar strategy to get higher market yields (i.e., revenue) from each batch of chips they mass manufacture. Hopefully these are not returns/rejects from customers. I've used the external drives for years and have been quite satisfied, but my needs are 'consumer grade,' not commercial.
This may be true--I suspect it is--but a lot of these deals (Staples, Amazon, Costco) have been for Seagate GoFlexes. If I recall, Seagate is rolling out a newer model with different interfaces, and they may just be trying to get rid of the older versions.
jamezk
New Member
posted: Jul. 15, 2012 @ 10:37a
I found these in west palm beach costco under the laptop island. The 1TB were on the main isle and walk around to the 2TB and the 3TB were on the inside.
If you have a AMEX card, they double the warranty up to a year, so you'll get 3 year warranty. Since AMEX is tied in with Costco, it's a no brainer.
This is a great price, but makes me think that much cheaper prices are just ahead. Every time I jump on a great deal, it gets even better a few weeks later. I'll buy at least one to migrate off my DROBO. Anybody want to buy a bare DROBO?
chumbucket
Cranky Member
posted: Jul. 15, 2012 @ 1:10p
how long is this sale going on for?
MontyBurnsFW
Senior Member
posted: Jul. 15, 2012 @ 2:16p
Expires Aug 5.
unmesh
Member
posted: Jul. 15, 2012 @ 2:38p
rocks said: WARNING to people with WIN 7 thinking of getting any drives over 2TB:
I got one of these at costco yesterday, it is very fast on my 3.0 usb port. But, trying to back up on it, I then spent several hours discovering that you will not be able to use Win 7's back up function with any of these external HD over 2TB, off the shelf. Win 7 doesn't write to these 4k sized sectors on the 2tb and up drives, thanks MS.
Just do a search on Windows Backup Error: 0x8078002A on 2.5TB and 3TB. Might get fixed on Win 8, don't hold your breath.
You can use other backup programs possibly, but why bother? Or reformat sector size, but why bother?
So I temporarily back up an image to a partition, then copy to the seagate. Silly.
I use crashplan, too; its great. It runs out that the legacy partitions on Windows hard drives is something called MBR which is limited to approximately 2.2TB. There is another type of partition that has been used by Linux for a while and that can be used in Windows called GPT that allows you to exceed this limit.
There is a bunch of fine print, though.
Only the newer UEFI BIOSes and Windows Vista/7 64-bit can boot from a GPT partition. Things get easier if you're not trying to boot from it and only use it for storage but some applications such as Acronis that look directly at the hard drive can't deal with GPT partitions (at least in older versions). The simplest workaround is to use more than one MBR partition on the drive, keeping each below the 2.2TB limit.
The 4K sector issue is different from the >2.2TB issue and has been largely addressed by so-called alignment software provided by the hard drive vendors or by a legacy-mode jumper that can be installed on the drive to emulate 512-byte sectors.
Hope this helps.
bawaji
Broke Member
posted: Jul. 15, 2012 @ 3:13p
So would this work on a 32-bit computer with 32-bit Windows XP as a secondary storage drive? Sounds like a very good deal!
http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=3+TB+drive+with+XP&l=1 You can use the full capacity of a 3TB drive via USB--with a drive enclosure that supports it. The SATA-to-USB bridge chip inside the enclosure takes care of any addressing issues. This is why the first 3TB drive shipped last summer as an external model--a switch from the usual pattern of internal units shipping first.
Nobahdy
Member
posted: Jul. 20, 2012 @ 10:14a
Just bought two of these to use as internals in my PC. I'm running Windows 7 64 bit. Will I need to do anything special or will Windows see them as normal drives?
@ the folks using crashplan. It sounds great. On the Family plan, where it says up to 10 computers can be backed up, can the computers be on different IPs? I have a PC at my home office on its own DSL connection, and I have the rest of my computers on a separate DSL connection which is for the family to use.
emaildle
New Member
posted: Jul. 21, 2012 @ 5:20p
Gosh... I looked everywhere in Costco (Vancouver, BC) and they all have $148 each. Where is the $20 instant rebate coming from?
THANKS DDDSEE
ottawa
Senior Member
posted: Jul. 21, 2012 @ 6:19p
Probably Costco US.
=aw
billrubin
OH NOOOOOOOOOOO!!
posted: Jul. 21, 2012 @ 7:55p
I got one of these for $99 at Best Buy on BF. Still had it in the box but my monthly HP diagnostics started reporting an error on my internal Seagate a few weeks ago so I got this out to backup my system. Discovered that Windows Backup did not work with it but also discovered a free download called Seagate DiscWizard which it turns out is actually a basic version of Acronis. You can get it here, and it does support a 3TB drive.
Fortunately, the SeaTools program was able to fix the internal disk problem (some bad sectors).
jxf011
Member
posted: Jul. 24, 2012 @ 5:56p
In for 2, thanks op!
I needed some storage and wanted to get them at Costco since they do their lifetime return policy on external hard drives. But I needed direct SATA connects and didn't want the heat issues that sometimes come with externals so I used this video to show me how to remove the drive from the case. Note, the other 3TB vids on YouTube are for the older case style, the 4TB and the newer 3TB at Costco are the same case. How to remove the drive from a Seagate GoFlex Desk 4TB enclosure
The internals are ST3000DM001 3TB 7200RPM 64MB ca.che (FW - pls stop auto-urling the word Cache) drives; there was no Costco sticker, just the Seagate label. They used to sell a 3TB 5400RPM GoFlex but it seems they've gone 7200RPM which is what I wanted. If you pull the drive from the case, be sure to keep track of the external/internal serial numbers since they're different.
I got one out perfect and the 2nd case had 2 small clips damaged but once it's back together you'd never see it so I'm sure it'd return to Costco no prob. I had to do "Covert to GPT" in Win7 Disk Management and then I formatted with Minitool Partition Manager since it doesn't create 128MB partitions at the start of the drive like Windows and it puts all the system meta data right at the start of the drive (Win7 puts it out a bit from the start). Both drives are still in their inner metal cages and happily going through chkdsk /r.
Also, the USB3 adapters I have left over now that I removed the drives work great; CrystalMark gave 1.7x-2.4x more throughput vs a Usb2 Opti adapter with sequential and random 512K read/write tests using the same drive (2.5" 320GB 7200rpm) on the same Usb3 port. The 4k results were +6%/-3% vs the Usb2 adapter.
All in all a great deal: $119.99 x 2, lifetime return policy, USB3 hard drive adapters and power blocks x 2, and 5589GB usable! Woot!
PS - bonus, I just found out these are Seagate's new 1TB platter drives, only 3 platters for 3TB. Also, I got 51c under load with the metal cages on and with them off just 45c so definitely remove the metal cages if you remove them from the plastic case for direct SATA connection.
coolbreeze
Senior Member - 3K
posted: Jul. 24, 2012 @ 7:53p
I probably missed this, but how hard is it to crack the enclosure open and use the bare drives? I am thinking of getting a Synology NAS and need some cheap 3TB drives.
jxf011
Member
posted: Jul. 25, 2012 @ 2:36p
see above:
Note, the other 3TB vids on YouTube are for the older case style, the 4TB and the newer 3TB at Costco are the same case.How to remove the drive from a Seagate GoFlex Desk 4TB enclosureThe internals are ST3000DM001 3TB 7200RPM 64MB ca.che; there was no Costco sticker, just the Seagate label.I got one out perfect and the 2nd case had 2 small clips damaged but once it's back together you'd never see it so I'm sure it'd return to Costco no prob
filmy
Member
posted: Aug. 5, 2012 @ 9:29p
In for 2. Today is/was the last day of the coupon.
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