VIZIO 60" SMART LED for $688 Walmart BF

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bxd20 said:   
Not only does it have component, but from the pictures on Vizio's website it also has coaxial input (RF), so even a 'first gen' VCR should hook up just fine. I'd like to hear him explain why the coaxial input doesn't work.


OK since you asked....
The coaxial input on this Vizio 60" is ATSC only so what good is a coaxial ATSC input going to do him on a TV without an NTSC tuner? Last I checked even the last gen VCRs don't output an ATSC signal over RF coax. Clear enough?

bxd20 said:   Wal Mart seems to want to do things a little "fairer" this year, hence some items are guaranteed. So I just can't imagine it will be total chaos for the TV. What I am not sure is, how will they keep things under control. Hand out numbers? But starting when? Stand in a special line - again starting when? When do their doors open?

I see a lot of this, so I'm going to post what my local Wal-Mart does.. which may or may not hold true in other ones... but yeah, it was ridiculous about 5 years ago, and so the Store Manager put his foot down. I know him, spoke to him at length last week, here's what I found out:

-The Vizio will have it's own section, in most Wal-Marts.. off to the side of Electronics towards the wall.
-All ddoorbusters have a section like this, with their own lines.
-You can get in a line UP TO, but NOT BEFORE 5 hours before that item is on sale.
-You get a ticket.
-You are escorted to the bathroom if you need to use it.
-You MAY NOT, under NO CIRCUMSTANCES "hold a spot" or switch with someone.
-Loitering is against the law, aimlessly "shopping" in the area the line will form is not. (His words, not mine... basically don't "settle" into one spot)
-The store is open (if it is a Supercenter), shopping is allowed, camping in one spot before that line opens is not.
-EACH item (big seller) has it's own line, REMEMBER THIS, so choose wisely, because if you wait, say for the TV and also want say a laptop... you will most likely end up with just the TV. This can be debated, as 10PM shoppers will be able to get back into a 5AM item line at midnight, but people may already be "shopping" in that area before you are done handling your 10PM business, so it likely won't work out trying for both. They do this on purpose, so everyone has a shot at something.
-Tickets are NOT like Best Buy (Get one, go home, sleep and pick your item up by 10 or 11 AM) : You HAVE to purchase the item after receiving your ticket and waiting in line, ONCE THE SALE starts. Once they get through the tickets, people who left are SOL, ticket or not, they will sell the items left available. The idea is to get as many customers taken care of in a timely manner, as possible... so letting people sit on tickets for hours and hours works against that.

That's all I can think of right now per my conversation with the SM... I know one thing: The past 4 years our Wal-Mart has had literally DOZENS of City police and County Sheriffs working, walking through the store, at least one law enforcement worker EVERY 25-40 feet. So, it's been relatively smooth, mostly because it was just awful 4-5 years ago, and the manager was hammered from corporate as so many of us contacted them via phone and email to complain of the terrible handling of such a big retail day.

cnIsfg said:   bxd20 said:   
Not only does it have component, but from the pictures on Vizio's website it also has coaxial input (RF), so even a 'first gen' VCR should hook up just fine. I'd like to hear him explain why the coaxial input doesn't work.


OK since you asked....
The coaxial input on this Vizio 60" is ATSC only so what good is a coaxial ATSC input going to do him on a TV without an NTSC tuner? Last I checked even the last gen VCRs don't output an ATSC signal over RF coax. Clear enough?


Hey - I really appreciate the explanation! But a VCR that has composite video (yellow RCA) could still be connected to the TV.

Just to let you guys know, I checked with my local WalMart to see how many 60" Vizio's they will have in stock. He informed me that they had between 15 - 20. This a rather small town Wal-Mart I'm located near. So I would probably say low end this is what you can expect.

Side note, here is a link to the Store map of your local Wal-Mart will be setup for Black Friday. http://localad.walmart.com/Walmart/Entry/Flash?forceview=y&promo...

I called my local store. (Pearl Rd, Strongsville, OH)

Ticket handout will start whenever there's at least a few people mingling around electronics waiting. Could be very early in the day. Once tickets are handed out, you must stay in the line. Bathroom passes will be given as needed, they will take your ticket, and return it when you return. You have 15 min before you lose your ticket. A ticket does guarantee you the item.

ebbikenezer said:   belgique said:   I would NOT buy this brand the remote is tiny and you cannot see the tiny buttons on the remote and if you have a VCR or camcorder U cannot connect it
to this TV...I had one and sent it back.



Hmmm. Recommendations on a VCR I can hook my camcorder to, to copy my home vids?


why VCR? I recently purchased this item on eBay for under 10 dollars and started storing all the videos on a hard disk.

"USB 2.0 VHS to DVD Converter Adapter VIDEO CAPTURE CARD"

ebbikenezer said:   belgique said:   I would NOT buy this brand the remote is tiny and you cannot see the tiny buttons on the remote and if you have a VCR or camcorder U cannot connect it
to this TV...I had one and sent it back.



Hmmm. Recommendations on a VCR I can hook my camcorder to, to copy my home vids?


why VCR? I recently purchased this item on eBay for under 10 dollars and started storing all the videos on a hard disk.

"USB 2.0 VHS to DVD Converter Adapter VIDEO CAPTURE CARD"

kkmekadba said:   ebbikenezer said:   belgique said:   I would NOT buy this brand the remote is tiny and you cannot see the tiny buttons on the remote and if you have a VCR or camcorder U cannot connect it
to this TV...I had one and sent it back.



Hmmm. Recommendations on a VCR I can hook my camcorder to, to copy my home vids?


why VCR? I recently purchased this item on eBay for under 10 dollars and started storing all the videos on a hard disk.

"USB 2.0 VHS to DVD Converter Adapter VIDEO CAPTURE CARD"


This blows, I love my Betamax for 1080p rips!

NJDevilsfan said:   ganjagadget said:   movie30 said:   I would definitely purchase one, but in Wisconsin it is $976 due to markup law. May have to drive to Illinois.
Sale starts at 10PM Thursday.


Wow that blows! I had never heard of such a thing, so I looked it up:

From http://datcp.wi.gov/:

Commonly referred to as the "Minimum Markup Law," is a general trade practice regulation prohibiting sales below cost. The law considers the practice of selling below cost to attract patronage a form of deceptive advertising which diverts business from retailers who maintain a fair pricing policy, ultimately resulting in lessened competition and market disruption. The law provides the following:

General merchandise other than alcoholic beverages, cigarettes and other tobacco products may not be sold at less than cost by either wholesalers or retailers. “Cost” is defined as invoice cost or replacement cost whichever is lower, less all trade discounts, plus any excise taxes and any cost incurred for transportation and any other charges not otherwise included in the invoice cost or replacement cost of the merchandise.

Must suck to be a FW'er in WI...


That is the most f'd up law i've ever seen. This law supposedly prevents "lessened competition" ?? Seems like the opposite. Hopefully you voted the dumb asses that instituted this law out of office last week. It is costing the taxpayers big time.

Also $976 vs $688 is $288. I highly doubt non WI stores are losing $288/unit, even if supplies are limited, so the law is definitely raising prices further by reducing competition. State is also losing sales tax revenue. If this difference in price is indicative of pricing differentials on other merchandise, I'm sure people find it worthwhile to drive across the border to neighboring states.


Actually, the law probably has more benefit to everyone, even slick dealers, than not having it. What it does is prevent big companies like, for example, WalMart, from coming in to a somewhat isolated town out in the country, or into a poor urban area where folks don't have good transportation options, and selling at a loss to drive the local competitors out of business. Once they're the only game in town, they can then jack prices sky high. It's a common practice, which is why people served by one one grocery store in an area get stuck paying higher prices.

Zanthexter said:   NJDevilsfan said:   ganjagadget said:   movie30 said:   I would definitely purchase one, but in Wisconsin it is $976 due to markup law. May have to drive to Illinois.
Sale starts at 10PM Thursday.


Wow that blows! I had never heard of such a thing, so I looked it up:

From http://datcp.wi.gov/:

Commonly referred to as the "Minimum Markup Law," is a general trade practice regulation prohibiting sales below cost. The law considers the practice of selling below cost to attract patronage a form of deceptive advertising which diverts business from retailers who maintain a fair pricing policy, ultimately resulting in lessened competition and market disruption. The law provides the following:

General merchandise other than alcoholic beverages, cigarettes and other tobacco products may not be sold at less than cost by either wholesalers or retailers. “Cost” is defined as invoice cost or replacement cost whichever is lower, less all trade discounts, plus any excise taxes and any cost incurred for transportation and any other charges not otherwise included in the invoice cost or replacement cost of the merchandise.

Must suck to be a FW'er in WI...


That is the most f'd up law i've ever seen. This law supposedly prevents "lessened competition" ?? Seems like the opposite. Hopefully you voted the dumb asses that instituted this law out of office last week. It is costing the taxpayers big time.

Also $976 vs $688 is $288. I highly doubt non WI stores are losing $288/unit, even if supplies are limited, so the law is definitely raising prices further by reducing competition. State is also losing sales tax revenue. If this difference in price is indicative of pricing differentials on other merchandise, I'm sure people find it worthwhile to drive across the border to neighboring states.


Actually, the law probably has more benefit to everyone, even slick dealers, than not having it. What it does is prevent big companies like, for example, WalMart, from coming in to a somewhat isolated town out in the country, or into a poor urban area where folks don't have good transportation options, and selling at a loss to drive the local competitors out of business. Once they're the only game in town, they can then jack prices sky high. It's a common practice, which is why people served by one one grocery store in an area get stuck paying higher prices.


price controls always result in higher prices
what an absolute disgusting law

bxlefty23 said:   Zanthexter said:   NJDevilsfan said:   ganjagadget said:   movie30 said:   I would definitely purchase one, but in Wisconsin it is $976 due to markup law. May have to drive to Illinois.
Sale starts at 10PM Thursday.


Wow that blows! I had never heard of such a thing, so I looked it up:

From http://datcp.wi.gov/:

Commonly referred to as the "Minimum Markup Law," is a general trade practice regulation prohibiting sales below cost. The law considers the practice of selling below cost to attract patronage a form of deceptive advertising which diverts business from retailers who maintain a fair pricing policy, ultimately resulting in lessened competition and market disruption. The law provides the following:

General merchandise other than alcoholic beverages, cigarettes and other tobacco products may not be sold at less than cost by either wholesalers or retailers. “Cost” is defined as invoice cost or replacement cost whichever is lower, less all trade discounts, plus any excise taxes and any cost incurred for transportation and any other charges not otherwise included in the invoice cost or replacement cost of the merchandise.

Must suck to be a FW'er in WI...


That is the most f'd up law i've ever seen. This law supposedly prevents "lessened competition" ?? Seems like the opposite. Hopefully you voted the dumb asses that instituted this law out of office last week. It is costing the taxpayers big time.

Also $976 vs $688 is $288. I highly doubt non WI stores are losing $288/unit, even if supplies are limited, so the law is definitely raising prices further by reducing competition. State is also losing sales tax revenue. If this difference in price is indicative of pricing differentials on other merchandise, I'm sure people find it worthwhile to drive across the border to neighboring states.


Actually, the law probably has more benefit to everyone, even slick dealers, than not having it. What it does is prevent big companies like, for example, WalMart, from coming in to a somewhat isolated town out in the country, or into a poor urban area where folks don't have good transportation options, and selling at a loss to drive the local competitors out of business. Once they're the only game in town, they can then jack prices sky high. It's a common practice, which is why people served by one one grocery store in an area get stuck paying higher prices.


price controls always result in higher prices
what an absolute disgusting law


These laws are more of the ilk of preventing monopolies than price controls.

You may rail against these types of laws, but you benefit from them on a daily basis.

cnIsfg said:   bxd20 said:   
Not only does it have component, but from the pictures on Vizio's website it also has coaxial input (RF), so even a 'first gen' VCR should hook up just fine. I'd like to hear him explain why the coaxial input doesn't work.


OK since you asked....
The coaxial input on this Vizio 60" is ATSC only so what good is a coaxial ATSC input going to do him on a TV without an NTSC tuner? Last I checked even the last gen VCRs don't output an ATSC signal over RF coax. Clear enough?


It has Analog tuner, says so in the manual. Where would you tune analog channels other than through the Coax?

Its already out of stock on WalMart.com. Was anyone able to get it online?

Yea, I got one sitting in the shopping cart................................... at the Vizio Store online at the SPECIAL PRICE of only $999.99

redeye22 said:   Yea, I got one sitting in the shopping cart................................... at the Vizio Store online at the SPECIAL PRICE of only $999.99

I don't think holding it in your shopping cart will reserve it for you.

i am so pissed off. i ordered at Amazon when the black friday deal occurred and it showed 998 in my account. i hope those computer servers will show i ordered it when bf price occurred.

update

went to WalMart purchased tv 4 hours later (tv is nice but a lot of effort). its strange Amazon will sometimes raises prices that have been in my cart before i purchase them. but wont let me order when its bf time. I appreciate some of the responses. I wish i knew how many Amazon had at their bf price. the WalMart i went to have over 40 of them.

crazy

clockstopper said:   i am so pissed off. i ordered at Amazon when the black friday deal occurred and it showed 998 in my account. i hope those computer servers will show i ordered it when bf price occurred.

You had to order the lightning deal. Black Friday items in your cart before the sale started don't reflect Black Friday pricing. I tried grabbing one within 1 second of it going live and didn't even make it onto the waitlist.

clockstopper said:   i am so pissed off. i ordered at Amazon when the black friday deal occurred and it showed 998 in my account. i hope those computer servers will show i ordered it when bf price occurred.

You had to have a specific one marked for the 688 price. Any tard could have ordered a 999 one at any point.

For what it is worth, I just bought this TV in Wisconsin at the sale price. I've been BF shopping in WI for years and have never had a problem.

I got one at Wallymart tonight, well worth the effort to save $$.

Was this supposed to go on sale at 10pm or 5am? I went to my local WalMart and they told me 5am but everything I can find pointed to 10pm. I don't think they had put the tvs out though.

I thought they were on sale at 8pm local, for those that opened then.

Was supposed to be 10pm event 2. I showed up 1 hr early and there was alredy 30 people waiting inline.

Add clearly says 10pm, for the Vizio 60"

Tvs were not on the floor, they were in the fast Lube express garage building, you went to an area in the store, shown on the hand out map at the entry, and waited in line. At 745pm, they gave out a slip, with barcode for the deal, you then could do whatever you wanted, but the price was not good until 10pm, after paying, you take your receipt around to pick up your item.

The employee monitoring the line, stated numerous times, we have 39 in stock, she was able to tell folks what number they were, I was also given an option of getting two Vizio 60". just as everyone else was also asked when they lined up.

They had about 8 different large tvs in the garages. Very organized, no mad dashes, no strikers, no waiting out in the rain, etc.

I loved my Vizio!.......for all 13months it worked.

Square Trade warranty ,after the 40% coupon from facebook, is $60 + tax, for 4 years. Making this deal even better.

LORENW said:   Square Trade warranty ,after the 40% coupon from facebook, is $60 + tax, for 4 years. Making this deal even better.

You'd be better off buying it from Costco. SquareTrade via Costco would cover it for the same # of years total (4 years == 1st through manufacturer and 3 through SquareTrade). However, through Costco, the $59.99 cost covers TVs between $500 - 1000.

The one you chose through SquareTrade for 59 after coupon will only cover the TV up to 699.99 in any repair costs. If you buy the one at Costco, you are covered up to the full retail cost/regular price (999.99).

SquareTrade will cover a device to it's full retail when you get such a deal like this for 300 off.

Just a thought....

LORENW said:   Square Trade warranty ,after the 40% coupon from facebook, is $60 + tax, for 4 years. Making this deal even better.

Uhhh, that's some really great deal!

Costco terms & Conditions Coverage Amount (top right pg1 says Purchase price only i.e $688) And Costco only sells 3Yrs Costco. SquareTrade

Scored one from Wallyworld. Love it!
Can you purchase the warranty from Costco if the TV is purchased elsewhere?
I do not have a Costco membership, so, can I have a friend buy the warranty, and I register my TV with it?

TIA!

zaxdude said:   LORENW said:   Square Trade warranty ,after the 40% coupon from facebook, is $60 + tax, for 4 years. Making this deal even better.

You'd be better off buying it from Costco. SquareTrade via Costco would cover it for the same # of years total (4 years == 1st through manufacturer and 3 through SquareTrade). However, through Costco, the $59.99 cost covers TVs between $500 - 1000.

The one you chose through SquareTrade for 59 after coupon will only cover the TV up to 699.99 in any repair costs. If you buy the one at Costco, you are covered up to the full retail cost/regular price (999.99).

SquareTrade will cover a device to it's full retail when you get such a deal like this for 300 off.

Just a thought....


I live where there is no Costco, Bentonville Arkansas, Guess who is here? I have to go with what I can get, vs extra effort, travel, etc. My Wally is 5 minutes away. Costco also charges to get into the door.

cubexco said:   Scored one from Wallyworld. Love it!
Can you purchase the warranty from Costco if the TV is purchased elsewhere?
I do not have a Costco membership, so, can I have a friend buy the warranty, and I register my TV with it?

TIA!


You got it today B&M?

Anyone would like to trade 65" for 60" vizio (got mine from Sam's Club) TV plus $ on your end?

I am in Seattle Wa

It is now $998, still not a bad price

998 is the MSRP (full retail).

nosaom said:   
You got it today B&M?


Thursday Night

cubexco said:   Scored one from Wallyworld. Love it!
Can you purchase the warranty from Costco if the TV is purchased elsewhere?
I do not have a Costco membership, so, can I have a friend buy the warranty, and I register my TV with it?

TIA!


That was a joke, right? If not, why not call them and ask them, I am sure they have prank calls all the time.



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