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Palmetto State Armory is offering Federal 12Ga 00Buck 9 Pellets 175Rds. MFR# XM127 00BK; Gauge: 12ga; Shot Size: 00Buck 9 Pellets; Length: 2 3/4''; 175 rds Packaged in a sealed 50 cal Military Ammo Can; Muzzle velocity: 1325 fps.


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Thanks BB. I'm kind of new to the shotgun world. Is this good ammo for home defense? Does it even matter?

eko said:   Thanks BB. I'm kind of new to the shotgun world. Is this good ammo for home defense? Does it even matter?

I would advise against using trap and skeet loads!

This is good ammo for home defense. If it were LE low-recoil buckshot, it would be excellent.

As NukeMedDude mentioned, don't use trap/skeet, or bird shot, loads. IMO, it is overpriced, but what ammo isn't nowadays?

The only downside might be that I've seen some ranges that only allow slugs, so you may not be able to practice with it. Personally I'm looking for something to practice with.

Out of stock, why post this if you don't have any ...lame

I don't think that there is a simple blanket answer as to which load is best for home defense. I use bird shot because I have neighbors on all 4 sides and I don't want to penetrate walls. Your situation/needs may differ.

SlyIke said:   I don't think that there is a simple blanket answer as to which load is best for home defense. I use bird shot because I have neighbors on all 4 sides and I don't want to penetrate walls. Your situation/needs may differ.

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot3_2.htm
Birdshot as a Defense Load
I have had a lot of questions, summed up as follows: How effective is birdshot (#4, #6, #8, etc.) as a defense load?We have done tests with various birdshot loads. Birdshot penetrated through two pieces of drywall (representing one wall) and was stopped in the paper on the front of the second wall. The problem with birdshot is that it does not penetrate enough to be effective as a defense round. Birdshot is designed to bring down little birds.A policeman told of seeing a guy shot at close range with a load of 12 gauge birdshot, and was not even knocked down. He was still walking around when the EMTs got there. It was an ugly, shallow wound, but did not STOP the guy. And that is what we want... to STOP the bad guy from whatever he is doing. To do this, you must have a load that will reach the vitals of the bad guy. Birdshot will not do this.In fact, tests have shown that even #4 Buckshot lacks the necessary penetration to reach the vital organs. Only 0 Buck, 00 Buck, and 000 Buck penetrate enough to reach the vital organs.Unless you expect to be attacked by little birds, do not use birdshot. Use 00 Buck. It will do the job.But doesn't 00 Buck penetrate too much in interior walls to be a "safe" load in a home?Yes, it does penetrate a lot. But any load that is going to be effective will need to penetrate walls to have enough power to penetrate bad guys. If our only concern was to be sure we didn't penetrate walls, we would use BB guns. However, BB guns will not stop bad guys.Therefore, we must use loads that will STOP bad guys, and this means that they will also penetrate walls. So, be sure you hit the bad guy and do not shoot into walls where loved ones are on the other side.When To Use BirdshotA friend of AR15.com sends this:"I saw a gunshot victim, about 5' 10" and 200 lbs, taken to the operating room with a shotgun wound to the chest. He was shot at a range of six feet at a distance of just over the pectoralis muscle. He was sitting on his front porch and walked to the ambulance. We explored the chest after x-rays were taken. The ER doc had said 'buckshot' wound, but this was obviously not accurate.It was # 6 shot. There was a crater in the skin over an inch in diameter. When the shot hit the level of the ribs, it spread out about five inches. There was ONE pellet that had passed between the ribs and entered the pericardium, but not damaged the heart at all. As you say, 'use birdshot for little birds.'"



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