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ShareBuilder is currently having a promotion (just got the offer in my e-mail today) in which if you put $10k of new money with them they will give you a $75 bonus (they will give you up to a $500 bonus if you deposit $100K of new money), but this deal makes you keep your money there for 9 months and the bonus isn't paid to you until April sometime.

To get your bonus, go to sharebuilder.com/DM/Transfer500 to start. Then either boost your current account (use code 1Deposit500) or open a new one (use code 500Deposit1). Last thing: put the funds or securities in your account by 3/28/13. Happy new year!


Here are the terms for the ShareBuilder offer:

You must make a deposit, transfer or roll over into one account. Assets deposited must be valued at no less than $10,000 to be eligible for a $75 bonus, $25,000 for a $150 bonus, $50,000 for a $250 bonus, or $100,000 for a $500 bonus. Promo code must be entered by 2/28/13 with the corresponding transfer completed to the same account by 3/28/13. Capital One ShareBuilder will deposit the corresponding bonus by April 15, 2013. The bonus offer is available for IRA, Individual, Joint or Custodial accounts only. Offer not valid for ESA Accounts.

Before accepting a bonus for an IRA account, you should consult your tax or legal advisor about the appropriate tax treatment for this award. Any taxes related to Capital One ShareBuilder offers are your responsibility. The bonus for an IRA is an award and will not be reported to the IRS as a contribution. The bonus from Capital One ShareBuilder is not available for withdrawal for 180 days after it is awarded to your account. Assets transferred into the account to qualify for this promotion must remain in the account (minus any losses related to trading or market volatility) for at least nine (9) months or your award may be reclaimed by ShareBuilder. Transfers from an ING DIRECT IRA to a ShareBuilder IRA are prohibited. Transfers between ShareBuilder accounts will not qualify for bonus. This offer is not valid with any other offers and is non-transferrable. Limit one ShareBuilder account bonus per unique customer. ShareBuilder reserves the right to terminate this offer at any time and to refuse or recover any promotion award if we determine that it was obtained under wrongful or fraudulent circumstances, that inaccurate or incomplete information was provided in opening the account, or that any terms of our Account Agreement have been violated.

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germanpope (Mar. 10, 2013 @ 11:28p) |

Sharebuilder has an offer that is no longer advertised, but I confirmed via online chat AND phone call is still valid, d... (more)

MojaveJack (Mar. 12, 2013 @ 4:56p) |

Received my deposit bonus without issue even though I opened my account with promo.

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I received the same. This is NOT available for "regular" accounts. Must be retirement accounts(IRA-, ROTH-, Rollover-, etc.- type accounts).

AugustFour said:   I received the same. This is NOT available for "regular" accounts. Must be retirement accounts(IRA-, ROTH-, Rollover-, etc.- type accounts).

ShareBulder said: The bonus offer is available for IRA, Individual, Joint or Custodial accounts only. Offer not valid for ESA Accounts.

That seems like it is available for "regular" accounts.

"Limit one ShareBuilder account bonus per unique customer."

Does this mean if you used an account opening bonus, you can't do this bonus as well?

No mention of 1099MISC?

scanchain said:   No mention of 1099MISC?

I would anticipate a 1099, but I don't know how they handle that for tax deferred or tax exempt accounts...

arch8ngel said:   scanchain said:   No mention of 1099MISC?

I would anticipate a 1099, but I don't know how they handle that for tax deferred or tax exempt accounts...

I was thinking that there would not be a 1099MISC since the amounts are less than $600.

scanchain said:   arch8ngel said:   scanchain said:   No mention of 1099MISC?

I would anticipate a 1099, but I don't know how they handle that for tax deferred or tax exempt accounts...

I was thinking that there would not be a 1099MISC since the amounts are less than $600.


True. But they can report from the first dollar, if they want to, for whatever reason...

arch8ngel said:   scanchain said:   arch8ngel said:   scanchain said:   No mention of 1099MISC?

I would anticipate a 1099, but I don't know how they handle that for tax deferred or tax exempt accounts...

I was thinking that there would not be a 1099MISC since the amounts are less than $600.


True. But they can report from the first dollar, if they want to, for whatever reason...


And ING did report on a 1099 INT for the 50$ sign up bonus for Electric Orange.

Great deal! I just opened a sharebuilder account for their $200 bonus.

I guess transfer from ING also counts? Any good mutual funds to park my money? $75 of $10K is 0.75% and that is better than .80% APY in ING for 9 months. But it would be much better if I can earn more interest with the money I parked.

kickerstarter said:   Great deal! I just opened a sharebuilder account for their $200 bonus.

I guess transfer from ING also counts? . . .


They are very explicit that money from ING does not count.

kickerstarter said:   . . . Any good mutual funds to park my money? $75 of $10K is 0.75% and that is better than .80% APY in ING for 9 months. But it would be much better if I can earn more interest with the money I parked.

If you examine their fee structure you will find that they charge much more for mutual fund round trips than for exchange traded funds. In the thread on the $200 offer I discussed how to minimize their fees.

If you did what I did and planned to enter with their low cost Tuesday buying program, taking the free Advantage offer and then canceling, the cancelation is effective end of this month, and next Tuesday is the only opportunity for using it. If putting in only another $10,000 this saving of commissions may be important, but saving $10 in commissions when investing $100,000 may not be as critical.

If you bought anything with your $10,000, you might consider making the same investment with any new money, since you will then pay only one fee when you exit.

You say nothing about your risk tolerance, or how much of your wealth will be put there. since your ask casually about a good mutual fund I suspect little investment experience. Diversification is wise, and a good exchange traded index fund is one way to get it. SPY(which tracks the S & P) index is a possibility.

I started a thread trying to consolidate discussion of these assorted offers, since many on fat wallet lack the l.5 million that might be need to take on of each offer (and some permit two bonuses), and with a wife that might be 3 million per couple, and if going after the IRA offers which are allowed the total cost might be as much as $5 million. Thus, some will have to choose which are the best ones to take, and comparisons are essential.

Alas, good balance transfer offers are scarce and it would be hard raise the required sums this way (and foolish to invest the proceeds in stocks, unless you had another way to pay them off),.

See http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/finance/1252069/

For one of my posts I attached a spread sheet, calculating the rates of return from these various offers. The Sharebuilder offer at say $100,000 (for $500) appears in the middle of the pack, giving an extra .5% on your money over 9 months, equaling the best E-Trade and Ameritrade offers (which gives free trades), and beating Fideliy, Schwab, and Merrill. However, on a rate of return basis Merrill stands out because it requires leaving the money for only 3 months. How much weight to give to the shorter period for Merrill depends on whether you think there will be other offers you might take later. Some firms explicitly state the offer is open for the rest of the year, and it is possible others will be extended or repeated. This suggests someone willing to make multiple transfers should carefully consider Merrill.

As I discussed there, the total bonuses are often higher if a couple each take an offer (getting two bonuses) than if a single promotion is used. for this sharebuilder promotion note that a couple making two $25,000 accounts earns $300, while one $50,000 account earns only $250.

Some promotions use other currencies. The Fidelity airline miles appear better than those giving cash if you value miles at a cent each (and many value them higher). However, the Apple gift cards one seem to worth less, and if you are willing to arbitrage you can get a gift card for a smaller investment if you take a cash offer and then buy your card (and I understand Apple stores take cash).

kickerstarter said:   Great deal! I just opened a sharebuilder account for their $200 bonus.



So did I. At the above site they make it possible to enter the code for existing accounts and to see if it works, and it appears that if we add money to our accounts opened for $200 we can get an additional bonus.

The smaller offers of $75 and $150 are at a relatively high rate than the larger offers, and appear to be better than larger offers elsewhere for investing for the same period of time. They also have the virtue that they can can utilize spare change left over after taking larger offers elsewhere (For instance, if you have $280,000 you can get $1000 from Ameritrade, but will still have $30,000 which might be placed with Sharebuilder (the Fidelity airline mile offers for $25,000 are good for this also). With $265,000, after doing the Ameritrade offer, you might take the Sharebuilder offer for another $75.

If you need 529 plans, the Merrill offer of $50 for $5000 invested for three months is good for this also. You can move it to another state later this year if your home state offers a tax benefit. I just opened six of these to take advantage of that offer.

There is also a Sharebuilder offer of $100 for opening a $5,000 account.

http://content.sharebuilder.com/MgdCon/Jump/Web/welcome/proseasy...

Notice this dominates the $75 for $10,000 offer above for those considering opening new accounts and without Sharebuilder accounts. A married couple might consider opening two $5,000 accounts.

This might be good for custodial accounts. With 4 children, a couple might be able to collect $600 in bonuses. I make the case in the other thread for giving them $5,000 in a custodial account and then spending it for their benefit on items you might have given them anyhow.

Using their site, it appears the offers that are the subject of this thread can also be applied to custodial accounts. Giving your child $10,000 so he can get an extra $75 is probably not wise (nor may it be wise for a couple to make two donations of $5,000 each (if possible) so the child gets $200 in bonuses, but if such accounts exist this, transferring the money to Sharebuilder may be a good usage of the funds.

In my thread on brokerage bonuses, I posted a discussion of the Sharebuilder $50 for $5000 offer there. I pointed out that middle class families probably have enough discretionary spending on a child over several years so that $5,000 (and probably $10,000) could be put in a custodial account, and gradually used for their benefit in a legal way (summer camps, toys, private schools, a car, etc.) so that at college age the money was used (not hurting them on need based scholarships), and by 21 or whenever they assumed full control of the accounts, the money had been spent on them.

There could also be some income tax benefits in moving some investment income out of the parents tax returns (you cannot move a lot, but the income on $5,000 to $10,000 might be moved).

Of course, for those who find that after taking all of the bonus offers available find they still have funds not committed, might increase their total bonuses by giving some to their children, and opening Sharebuider custodial accounts. Thus, getting an extra $50 for one child(which when added to a family wealth of say $5,000,000 (abouit lwhere you run out of opportunjtieis for opening new accounts for bonuses) increases it by $50, to $5,000,050, which some (possibly not on Fatwallet) may not think worth the effort.

In addition, there can be estate tax benefits from giving money to their children before death.

Saw this from Sharebuilder and Costco:

Open a new individual joint or custodial account and fund the account with at least $10,000 by 2/25/13 to receive the $250 offer.

Visit Costco.com and search: online investing mvm

It won't help everyone but hopefully someone can benefit from this.

Here is a site with a list of Sharebuilder codes: www.sharebuilderpromocodes.com

It is a pretty comprehensive list.

This is my first post, so be kind

newlin99 said:   Saw this from Sharebuilder and Costco:

Open a new individual joint or custodial account and fund the account with at least $10,000 by 2/25/13 to receive the $250 offer.

Visit Costco.com and search: online investing mvm

It won't help everyone but hopefully someone can benefit from this.


Best offer that I have seen. But you have to be an Executive member. Also not sure how it works for custodial account since the account owner is not likely to be an executive member.

ProfessorEd said:   kickerstarter said:   Great deal! I just opened a sharebuilder account for their $200 bonus.

I guess transfer from ING also counts? . . .


They are very explicit that money from ING does not count.


Where did they state money from ING does not count? All I see are:

1. Transfers from an ING DIRECT IRA to a ShareBuilder IRA are prohibited
2. Transfers between ShareBuilder accounts will not qualify for bonus.

ProfessorEd said:   kickerstarter said:   . . . Any good mutual funds to park my money? $75 of $10K is 0.75% and that is better than .80% APY in ING for 9 months. But it would be much better if I can earn more interest with the money I parked.

If you examine their fee structure you will find that they charge much more for mutual fund round trips than for exchange traded funds. In the thread on the $200 offer I discussed how to minimize their fees.


How so? There are No Transaction Fee mutual funds and you don't pay any fee to buy and sell. But you have to at least pay fee to sell EFT. Besides, with EFTs, you are exposed to market risk much more than mutual funds.

kickerstarter said:   ProfessorEd said:   kickerstarter said:   . . . Any good mutual funds to park my money? $75 of $10K is 0.75% and that is better than .80% APY in ING for 9 months. But it would be much better if I can earn more interest with the money I parked.

If you examine their fee structure you will find that they charge much more for mutual fund round trips than for exchange traded funds. In the thread on the $200 offer I discussed how to minimize their fees.


How so? There are No Transaction Fee mutual funds and you don't pay any fee to buy and sell. But you have to at least pay fee to sell EFT. Besides, with EFTs, you are exposed to market risk much more than mutual funds.


Ok, for the correct fund there may be no fees. What would you suggest for him?

kickerstarter said:   ProfessorEd said:   kickerstarter said:   Great deal! I just opened a sharebuilder account for their $200 bonus.

I guess transfer from ING also counts? . . .


They are very explicit that money from ING does not count.


Where did they state money from ING does not count? All I see are:

1. Transfers from an ING DIRECT IRA to a ShareBuilder IRA are prohibited
2. Transfers between ShareBuilder accounts will not qualify for bonus.


I stand corrected. The fine print does seem to exclude only transfers from an ING Direct IRA. I read it too fast, and thought you had missed it.

ProfessorEd said:   kickerstarter said:   ProfessorEd said:   kickerstarter said:   . . . Any good mutual funds to park my money? $75 of $10K is 0.75% and that is better than .80% APY in ING for 9 months. But it would be much better if I can earn more interest with the money I parked.

If you examine their fee structure you will find that they charge much more for mutual fund round trips than for exchange traded funds. In the thread on the $200 offer I discussed how to minimize their fees.


How so? There are No Transaction Fee mutual funds and you don't pay any fee to buy and sell. But you have to at least pay fee to sell EFT. Besides, with EFTs, you are exposed to market risk much more than mutual funds.


Ok, for the correct fund there may be no fees. What would you suggest for him?


LOL! You are asking me to suggest for myself?

Sharebuilder has a fund screener and you can advance search NTF funds along with other parameters. There are some bond funds with expense ratio 0.50% or less. I will take my chance and park my money there.

If you are not qualified to contribute to IRA/Roth but you roll over $100K of IRA from ETrade for $500, then I assume this $500 must be contributed to an IRA/Roth account (ShareBuilder account, in this case). Am I correct? So in this case, $500 is useless if you are not qualified for an IRA/Roth account contribution (for whatever reason such as income is not earnings, wages, etc.). Is this correct?

In a phone call to confirm eligibility (see below),I learned more.

The representative said in any case I could not have added funds because the account was restricted from adding funds, trading, or withdrawing funds. My wife's date of birth was wrong. It is correctable, but it is a form that requires proof of the correct date, and then notarization or a medallion signature. They had warned of the problem by a message to the messages but there is no warning if you just look at the account. I confirmed the restriction by stating the withdrawal process, and then a message shows up.

On her account data, for date of birth it just shows as "on file." and a correct button. On casual inspection there appears to be no problem here. If you click the correct button, up pops the form to be notarized.

The form requested both the date on file and the correct date, but for security reasons they will not reveal the date on file. The phone representative said the form would be processed if you wrote unknown.

Some may want to check their own accounts to be sure there is no problem of this type, since if you needed the money badly, having to deal with this problem would delay you, since it requires a trip to a bank or a notary, and apparently both owners signature and guarantee, even if only one is being corrected.

I do not know how they discovered an error in her date of birth (possibly by comparison with older accounts), but it would have been nice if it had been detected earlier. It might have been mentioned in the E-mail saying the account had been opened, or that you had qualified for the bonus (which has been credited). I suspected that is when the processing was done that showed an error.

Ideally they would decline to open accounts when they know there is an error in the data. In some cases, it might be possible then to do a new application that had no errors, without involving a notary. However, possibly older (inactive accounts) would need correcting. However, at least some potential customers might decline to go ahead if they realized that notarized corrections to the data on file from an earlier account was needed.

AugustFour said:   If you are not qualified to contribute to IRA/Roth but you roll over $100K of IRA from ETrade for $500, then I assume this $500 must be contributed to an IRA/Roth account (ShareBuilder account, in this case). Am I correct? So in this case, $500 is useless if you are not qualified for an IRA/Roth account contribution (for whatever reason such as income is not earnings, wages, etc.). Is this correct?
First: There is no high income limit that would disqualify you from a trad IRA contribution (as long as you have enough earned income equal to contribution amount with 5.5k max in 2013). The restrictions are on deductibility of the contribution.

Second: The bonus is sometimes paid out as "interest" and as such doesnt count as a contribution. Check with Sharebuilder as to how they code it.

ProfessorEd said:   kickerstarter said:   Great deal! I just opened a sharebuilder account for their $200 bonus.



So did I. At the above site they make it possible to enter the code for existing accounts and to see if it works, and it appears that if we add money to our accounts opened for $200 we can get an additional bonus.

The smaller offers of $75 and $150 are at a relatively high rate than the larger offers, and appear to be better than larger offers elsewhere for investing for the same period of time. They also have the virtue that they can can utilize spare change left over after taking larger offers elsewhere (For instance, if you have $280,000 you can get $1000 from Ameritrade, but will still have $30,000 which might be placed with Sharebuilder (the Fidelity airline mile offers for $25,000 are good for this also). With $265,000, after doing the Ameritrade offer, you might take the Sharebuilder offer for another $75.

If you need 529 plans, the Merrill offer of $50 for $5000 invested for three months is good for this also. You can move it to another state later this year if your home state offers a tax benefit. I just opened six of these to take advantage of that offer.


Even though it looked like the computer had taken my account number (on an account that had just earned the $200 bonus) and I would be eligible for the bonus for adding funds, I called to check.

The answer was that because I had received a bonus already, I would not be eligible, because of the restriction to one bonus per customer (which we had avoided by opening a joint account to get the $200 bonus, since several years earlier my wife and I had received small bonuses under promotions). Thus, anyone thinking of taking advantage of these promotions may want to call to be sure if they ever received a bonus, even years ago.

uutxs said:   AugustFour said:   If you are not qualified to contribute to IRA/Roth but you roll over $100K of IRA from ETrade for $500, then I assume this $500 must be contributed to an IRA/Roth account (ShareBuilder account, in this case). Am I correct? So in this case, $500 is useless if you are not qualified for an IRA/Roth account contribution (for whatever reason such as income is not earnings, wages, etc.). Is this correct?
First: There is no high income limit that would disqualify you from a trad IRA contribution (as long as you have enough earned income equal to contribution amount with 5.5k max in 2013). The restrictions are on deductibility of the contribution.

Second: The bonus is sometimes paid out as "interest" and as such doesnt count as a contribution. Check with Sharebuilder as to how they code iy.

What is iy?

AugustFour said:   uutxs said:   AugustFour said:   If you are not qualified to contribute to IRA/Roth but you roll over $100K of IRA from ETrade for $500, then I assume this $500 must be contributed to an IRA/Roth account (ShareBuilder account, in this case). Am I correct? So in this case, $500 is useless if you are not qualified for an IRA/Roth account contribution (for whatever reason such as income is not earnings, wages, etc.). Is this correct?
First: There is no high income limit that would disqualify you from a trad IRA contribution (as long as you have enough earned income equal to contribution amount with 5.5k max in 2013). The restrictions are on deductibility of the contribution.

Second: The bonus is sometimes paid out as "interest" and as such doesnt count as a contribution. Check with Sharebuilder as to how they code iy.

What is iy?

it (typo)

ProfessorEd said:   

Even though it looked like the computer had taken my account number (on an account that had just earned the $200 bonus) and I would be eligible for the bonus for adding funds, I called to check.

The answer was that because I had received a bonus already, I would not be eligible, because of the restriction to one bonus per customer (which we had avoided by opening a joint account to get the $200 bonus, since several years earlier my wife and I had received small bonuses under promotions). Thus, anyone thinking of taking advantage of these promotions may want to call to be sure if they ever received a bonus, even years ago.


Thanks for information. But I think it does not make a lot of sense to assume that customer who want to take advantage of the offer by adding more fund had opened an account without any promo. After all, there are existing promo for $200 or even $250 for a new $10K account. Getting $75 for a new $10K account (or even $150 for $25K) does not make much sense. Too bad we have to wait until 4/15 to find out for sure.

kickerstarter said:   ProfessorEd said:   

Even though it looked like the computer had taken my account number (on an account that had just earned the $200 bonus) and I would be eligible for the bonus for adding funds, I called to check.

The answer was that because I had received a bonus already, I would not be eligible, because of the restriction to one bonus per customer (which we had avoided by opening a joint account to get the $200 bonus, since several years earlier my wife and I had received small bonuses under promotions). Thus, anyone thinking of taking advantage of these promotions may want to call to be sure if they ever received a bonus, even years ago.


Thanks for information. But I think it does not make a lot of sense to assume that customer who want to take advantage of the offer by adding more fund had opened an account without any promo. After all, there are existing promo for $200 or even $250 for a new $10K account. Getting $75 for a new $10K account (or even $150 for $25K) does not make much sense. Too bad we have to wait until 4/15 to find out for sure.


I presume there a quite a few who opened accounts without promotions, and may be persuaded to put more money in. If I was them, I might suspect that a certain fraction of those who used promotions in opening an account are ones who will take their money out after the promotion, so giving them a second promotion may be less profitable.

It sounds like you have ready sent them money. Depending on your circumstances, you may wish to call and find out if you are going to get the promotion. If not, you may not want to keep your money there (as I pointed out in a thread I started, there are a number of promotions being offered by various firms, and most do not have enough cash to take them all). If you learn anything, posting it may be useful to others.

There is still a month for people to take advantage of this relatively generous promotion, if they are eligible.

edit, oops

Come to think of it this really isn't a hot deal at all. Say you have 100K available to invest. To get the ShareBuilder $500 bonus you have to leave your money there for 9 months. If you took that same 100K and put it in an American Express High Yield Savings account (which pays 0.90%) after 9 months you would have made at least $900. The thing that kills the ShareBuilder deal is you have your money tied up, unlike the Chase deals where you can get your bonus then transfer all but $300 of the money out. You have to leave $300 in Chase to prevent monthly account fees.

From ShareBuilder's bonus offer fine print:

Assets transferred into the account to qualify for this promotion must remain in the account (minus any losses related to trading or market volatility) for at least nine (9) months or your award may be reclaimed by ShareBuilder.

First of all, you don't have to put in $100K. The max gain is $75 for $10K. Which is 0.75% or close to 1% APY. And then, you can invest your money instead of letting it sit. This works if you plan on investing the amount anyway. The bonus is the extra sharebuilder give you. Think of it as special dividend.

However, ProfessorEd mentioned people who originally openned their account with promotion may not qualify. I am very skeptical about this because the T&C did not say otherwise. And the system took the promo code 1deposit500 without any issue. I would think it is an misinformed rep's personal opinion.

These rates are not very attractive:

((75/10000)/9)*12=1%

((150/25000)/9)*12=0.8%

((250/50000)/9)*12=0.67%

((500/100000)/9)*12=0.67%

AugustFour said:   These rates are not very attractive:

((75/10000)/9)*12=1%

((150/25000)/9)*12=0.8%

((250/50000)/9)*12=0.67%

((500/100000)/9)*12=0.67%

As mentioned by others, this is not a great offer if you are planning to park cash. Most brokerage bonuses are attractive only if you move assets from another brokerage (something that you anyway plan to hold/trade) or if you plan on investing the cash anyway.

uutxs said:   AugustFour said:   uutxs said:   AugustFour said:   If you are not qualified to contribute to IRA/Roth but you roll over $100K of IRA from ETrade for $500, then I assume this $500 must be contributed to an IRA/Roth account (ShareBuilder account, in this case). Am I correct? So in this case, $500 is useless if you are not qualified for an IRA/Roth account contribution (for whatever reason such as income is not earnings, wages, etc.). Is this correct?
First: There is no high income limit that would disqualify you from a trad IRA contribution (as long as you have enough earned income equal to contribution amount with 5.5k max in 2013). The restrictions are on deductibility of the contribution.

Second: The bonus is sometimes paid out as "interest" and as such doesnt count as a contribution. Check with Sharebuilder as to how they code iy.

What is iy?

it (typo)

I remember some time ago I called them for a different offer which involved IRA. I remember the guy on the phone told me the bonus is like IRA contribution. It would be interesting to find out how they code it: contribution or distribution (interest)? Anyone knows?

AugustFour said:   I remember some time ago I called them for a different offer which involved IRA. I remember the guy on the phone told me the bonus is like IRA contribution. It would be interesting to find out how they code it: contribution or distribution (interest)? Anyone knows?
The BF bonus for rolling a 401k posted NOT as a contribution.

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Received my deposit bonus without issue even though I opened my account with promo.



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