Buy the engagement ring w/o breaking the bank at Boscovs!

1 1/2 ctw diamond solitaire ring set in 14 kt. gold. Item #104429.
Orig. price $13,999.00 --------NOW! $3,999.97
Avail. at Boscovs online in the hot deals section.
I bought two....will pull the stones and make my wife some sweet Iverson
ear rings. My Christmas shopping is done with 345 days to go!

Thanks OP.

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it didn't say the clairty on the page..it just say 'fine' 'best' quility diamonds..
hope those 'fine' stuffs wont be I1/2 grade, good luck

serious question, is this a qood price for this? I have seen a 1 carat weight set in 14k gold at jewelryexchange.com for 599, not sure how to judge the quality though. sorry for the newbie tone in the question

Its just plain ignorant to buy diamonds without confirmation of the quality of the stones. They will probably arrive an I3 clarity and M or worse on color. Good luck...

Hint: Learn the four C's before plunking down thousands on a crap shoot.

Agree with most replies here. Would really help if the site included Clarity and Color ratings. I'm in the market to buy an engagement ring this year, and it kills me to see a deal like this which sounds great on the surface, but missing some really important info!

BlueNile.com has some good explanations. also, the new martha stewart weddings magazine has a section on how to save money by picking whats most important to you in a ring. (cuts that look bigger, when quality actually matters and in what cuts, etc.)

If you want some education on diamonds read the forums and tutorials on Pricescope

cheffrey said: Agree with most replies here. Would really help if the site included Clarity and Color ratings. I'm in the market to buy an engagement ring this year, and it kills me to see a deal like this which sounds great on the surface, but missing some really important info!

one word: costco

try costco. i think their stuff is good quality and their prices the best.

SI1, SI2 - small inclusions visible to the naked eye
I - large inclusions, easily seen


SL1, SL2 Slightly included. The diamond contains inclusions that are noticeable to an experienced grader under 10X magnification. Inclusions are not noticeable to the naked eye without magnification in this category, they are at the I (Included) level.

paco495 said:
SI1, SI2 - small inclusions visible to the naked eye
I - large inclusions, easily seen


SL1, SL2 Slightly included. The diamond contains inclusions that are noticeable to an experienced grader under 10X magnification. Inclusions are not noticeable to the naked eye without magnification in this category, they are at the I (Included) level.

as far as i know sL1 or sL2 are not widely accepted designations.

nhokt said: Wow, this is one of the most ignorant things I have read in Hot Deals for awhile... Let me guess, you got your buying advice from the sales person at Tiffanys.

There are plenty of great stones that are in the GIA SI1/2 range. You need to be smart about it and inspect the stones to see what they look like. If you are shopping for a diamond do yourself a favor, research and read up in some diamond forums to get unbiased information. You need to decide what is important to you, do you care what the diamond looks like under a microscope? Will your significant other be carrying a microscope when she shows it to her friends? Maybe she will but I wouldn't get to caught up in that, you want at the minimum something that is eye-clean and that sparkles white even outside of the jewely store lights. Pay attention to what company did the grading on the diamond report, an EGL VS1 is not the same quality as a GIA or AGS certed VS1 stone.

The diamond industry is a racket, your stone will be appraised at probably double what you paid and that is standard. A good reality check is to see what you can actually sell a good diamond for on the open market. Give yourself plenty of time to shop around, I took 3 months when picking the stone and am VERY happy with my choice, and so is she

On to the point of this deal... I would stay away unless they have a really good return policy, thats a lot of money to drop on a total unknown.
Excellent rebuttal, nhokt...the other post was total ridiculous (anything less than a VS2 is crap?!?!)

2nd post, suspicious deal...hmmmmm

If they are true to the return policy it could be a worthwhile adventure:
Boscov's Convenient Return Policy
If, for any reason, you are ever less than completely satisfied with your purchase ... just return it to us. We will replace it, exchange it, or refund the price that was paid. Except as noted below, merchandise purchased on this site can be returned to any Boscov's store within 30 days of purchase with the original packing slip included in your shipment and with all merchandising tags attached. Bring your return, along with a valid photo ID, to the store's Courtesy Desk where you can arrange an exchange or receive credit on your account.


There are no notations on returning jewelry that would exclude a return if you have it appraised and find out that it is total crap. I would definately have it appraised and seriously looked over by a very uptight gemologist/jeweler as soon as I received it!

computerquest said: If they are true to the return policy it could be a worthwhile adventure:
Boscov's Convenient Return Policy
If, for any reason, you are ever less than completely satisfied with your purchase ... just return it to us. We will replace it, exchange it, or refund the price that was paid. Except as noted below, merchandise purchased on this site can be returned to any Boscov's store within 30 days of purchase with the original packing slip included in your shipment and with all merchandising tags attached. Bring your return, along with a valid photo ID, to the store's Courtesy Desk where you can arrange an exchange or receive credit on your account.


There are no notations on returning jewelry that would exclude a return if you have it appraised and find out that it is total crap. I would definately have it appraised and seriously looked over by a very uptight gemologist/jeweler as soon as I received it!

did you notice it said "credit"? i do not care for a $4000 "credit" at Boscovs.

WeToddid
Maybe you are??
$8k on stones you can't see prior to purchase

jmo said: michal1980 said: nhokt, you sound like a typical pricescope dimanod snoob (the pot shot at tiffany's is a big give away). sorry.

Tiffany's deserves a potshot. They're a ripoff!


the guy you were replaying too had good points, as the stone size gets bigger clarity does become a bigger issue, it might be harder to hide the defect then on a smaller stone. His point about a high quality/very clear stone was good, as well as the price for it.
pricescope users are kind of like f.w. cheapest/larget stone possible, and try to cut as many corners on the stone as possible.

while cut quality is a number 1 in diamonds, pricescope users like you try to get the stone with the least possible clarity to save money, and get the biggest bling. sometimes to get the 'best' you need a good mix of all the c's, where as you do not care about clarity, as long as it can be hidden under a prong, or only seen if if u look close, as long as its 10 carats its great. no need to call anyone ignorant, when there points were valid.

What a bunch of bovine excrement!

It's an ENGAGEMENT ring. You're not going to be buying it for resale. Why pay 10-20% more to "fix" an inclusion that's going to be HIDDEN under a prong anyway? Pricescope is all about EYE CLEAN, not "least possible clarity". I don't see FW or Pricescope gurus advocating I3s so your statement about "least possible clarity" is complete bull.

As far as your point about calling people ignorant, when you post that the only acceptable clarity is VS2 or better and basically gloss over the major factors of what makes a good quality diamond (cut and color, in order of importance) and refer to cut only as the shape (should have explained proper proportions and brilliance, fire, and scintillation for the newbs), well then... "It is better to sit in silence and appear ignorant, than to open your
mouth and remove all doubt." -- Mark Twain

Apparently it was not Mark Twain who said that.

I repeat: Costco does not sell any diamonds below VS2 but WalMart and KMart do.

please please visit pricescope for good info on diamond buying. NOT here

Here's a good Diamond Buying Guide Don't ever buy diamond jewelry that doesn't specify the quality of the stones. If the stones are a decent quality the seller will be more than happy to disclose the four C's.

jmo said: katx said:
I repeat: Costco does not sell any diamonds below VS2 but WalMart and KMart do.

Who cares? An improperly proportioned yellow VS2 will look like $h1t. A properly cut colorless stone with SI2 inclusions hidden under prongs will look like a VS2 or even better when set. Clarity is the THIRD thing you should look at, not the first.

Perhaps true but Costco also does not sell any color beyond I.

Different sources give different order of the 4 Cs. Clarity is not third on all or even most of the ones that I have come across. At any rate, I do not recall any indication that the order in the 4 was significant. You have a source for that claim?

katx said: Unless there is any new (mis)claims, I am done repeating myself.I apologize for reviving this old thread but I just came across it and thought that the discussion of the 4C's is actually quite worthwhile.

I actually happen to be in JMO's camp on clarity -- as long as a stone is eye-clean, I do not see any particular reason to pay for higher clarity. Now, the "eye clean" status of the stone will certainly depend on its shape (it would be more difficult to see the same inclusion in a round brilliant stone than in, let's say, marquis), size (it's easier to see inclusions in larger diamonds), cut (the better cut a stone is, the more it will obscure the inclusions), location of the inclusion and the type of the inclusion (black inclusions are much easier to spot than white feathers). For round brilliants, quite a few SI2 stones, especially the ones with ideal cuts, are perfectly eye clean and, therefore, present a terrific deal.

Now, some people just have a personal preference for a stone with higher clarity because they equate it with "purity" or just like seeing a very clean certificate. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this personal preference as long as the person realizes that others will never be able to discern the higher clarity without a microscope.

As for color, again, some shapes show color more than others (round brilliants typically show color the least). Further, the quality of the cut makes a huge difference here -- for round brilliants, an ideal cut (which I'll discuss below) will often make diamonds face up at least one color grade higher than its certificated grade.

Just like with clarity, some people have a person preference for the highest color money can buy. Unlike high clarity, which cannot be discerned with a naked eye, however, most people can tell the difference between icy white D color and, let's say, J. Differences in color can also often be discerned by comparing stones next to each other, which is the reason that most people think of high color as more important than high clarity. Depending on your age, personal preference and visual acuity, many people think of H and I colored round brilliants as presenting the best value for the money. Some J colored round brilliants also face up very white and, therefore, are a great option.

Cut is an extremely important variable since it can really make your stone sparkle or make it look very dull. Both GIA and AGS labs now offer "cut" ratings in their new certificates, although their definitions differ somewhat. Pricescope offers a free Cut Advisor tool (http://www.pricescope.com/cutadviser.asp) that can also be extremely helpful in evaluating the quality of the cut.

People generally like to pay for things that they can see, which in the diamond context means that they want an eye-clean (SI clarity and up), white looking (H-I color and up) and very sparkly diamond. So, once the first two attributes (eye-clean and white) of the diamond are satisfied, cut becomes absolutely paramount since it can really make a diamond appear full of fire and sparkle.

As JMO correctly pointed out, the quality of the cut depends and is evaluated not just based on the basic measurements (depth %, table %) but also the crown and pavillion angles. When online retailers say "ideal" or "very good" cut in their online listings, they are often just guesstimating the cut based on the depth and the table. It is quite unwise to rely on such a guesstimate -- instead, see what the diamond angles are (if they are not listed on the report, they can be obtained by a Sarin or an Ogi machine), so you can then be in a much better position to evaluate the performance of the diamond.