deallover said: It is an Emprex brand. You get what you pay
I would say HOT price but be careful. Check the Fry's return policy as well.
Green for OP.
Care to qualify that? Fatwallet users tend to know that brand names can be overblown. What's wrong with this particular brand?
skwiggey
Handsome Member
posted: Oct. 15, 2006 @ 5:10p
$53 Shipping here for a total of $750. I think I will hold off for an Olevia.
skwiggey
Handsome Member
posted: Oct. 15, 2006 @ 5:11p
sjwaste said: deallover said: It is an Emprex brand. You get what you pay
I would say HOT price but be careful. Check the Fry's return policy as well.
Green for OP.
Care to qualify that? Fatwallet users tend to know that brand names can be overblown. What's wrong with this particular brand? I don't know, I would like to know what panel is in it.
Well Emprex products in general have little blemishes here and there, but what annoys me here is the 1080i max resolution. 1080p would've given us a winner.
taphil
Member
posted: Oct. 15, 2006 @ 5:30p
How do you expect to get 1080p with a 1366x768 panel?
unlockedshaders said: Well Emprex products in general have little blemishes here and there, but what annoys me here is the 1080i max resolution. 1080p would've given us a winner.
A 61"er would also give us a winner. There is a reason why it is priced as it is (i.e. lack of features).
skwiggey
Handsome Member
posted: Oct. 15, 2006 @ 6:32p
AishaDad said: skwiggey said: $53 Shipping here for a total of $750. I think I will hold off for an Olevia.
It is free for me now. I guess Frys read my post and changed it. Let me try again...I think it would be a good deal at say...$499 and free shipping.
skwiggey
Handsome Member
posted: Oct. 15, 2006 @ 6:33p
unlockedshaders said: Well Emprex products in general have little blemishes here and there, but what annoys me here is the 1080i max resolution. 1080p would've given us a winner. This little guy is made to run at 720p, anything above that is a waste.
stactum
Addicted Member
posted: Oct. 15, 2006 @ 6:37p
I own this TV - pretty decent quality for the price. HD looks amazing!
unlockedshaders said: Well Emprex products in general have little blemishes here and there, but what annoys me here is the 1080i max resolution. 1080p would've given us a winner.
I wish everyone who posted this nonsense would tell the rest of us where this undiscovered treasure trove of 1080p content is.
CBS (1080i) ESPNHD (720p) ESPN2HD (720p) FOX (720p) NBC (1080i) MSG (1080i) Altitude (1080i) INHD (1080i) HDNet (1080i) FSN BA (1080i) FSN AZ (720p) Discovery HD (1080i) ABC (720p) DirecTV 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i Dish 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i.
It's almost impossible to find 1080P content and the people who do have it are usually ripping it off from the networks after a sporting event is well in the can.
Not to mention that at 37" You can't tell the difference between 1080i and 1080p anyway.
The same people keep saying the same nonsense thinking they're a big shot.
skwiggey
Handsome Member
posted: Oct. 15, 2006 @ 6:42p
stactum said: I own this TV - pretty decent quality for the price. HD looks amazing! You shouldn't say things like that. It makes me want to buy one.
skwiggey
Handsome Member
posted: Oct. 15, 2006 @ 6:44p
fatluncher said: unlockedshaders said: Well Emprex products in general have little blemishes here and there, but what annoys me here is the 1080i max resolution. 1080p would've given us a winner.
I wish everyone who posted this nonsense would tell the rest of us where this undiscovered treasure trove of 1080p content is.
CBS (1080i) ESPNHD (720p) ESPN2HD (720p) FOX (720p) NBC (1080i) MSG (1080i) Altitude (1080i) INHD (1080i) HDNet (1080i) FSN BA (1080i) FSN AZ (720p) Discovery HD (1080i) ABC (720p) DirecTV 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i Dish 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i.
It's almost impossible to find 1080P content and the people who do have it are usually ripping it off from the networks after a sporting event is well in the can.
Not to mention that at 37" You can't tell the difference between 1080i and 1080p anyway.
The same people keep saying the same nonsense thinking they're a big shot. 1080p in a tv is great, if you want to pay the $$$. It is silly to complain about it at this price point. 1080p content is available on Blu-ray, I don't know where else you can get it.
fatluncher said: I wish everyone who posted this nonsense would tell the rest of us where this undiscovered treasure trove of 1080p content is.If you connect it to a computer and use it as a monitor, then 1080p makes sense.
1080P TV's are at least two to three times as expensive as this TV at 37" and as mentioned there is very little content available.
Although it does make a better monitor for computer if it has 1080P but what the heck, as a TV it is perfectly ok to have for the next 5years at which point it will be time to upgrade. Even if Blue-ray and HD DVD offer 1080p, I am not paying $1000 for a blu-ray player and then another $25-$50 for movies. Wait 5 years and you will get these things much cheaper. Those who are thinking about buying blu-ray and the movies should not be thinking about a 699 tv.
skwiggey said: fatluncher said: unlockedshaders said: Well Emprex products in general have little blemishes here and there, but what annoys me here is the 1080i max resolution. 1080p would've given us a winner.
I wish everyone who posted this nonsense would tell the rest of us where this undiscovered treasure trove of 1080p content is.
CBS (1080i) ESPNHD (720p) ESPN2HD (720p) FOX (720p) NBC (1080i) MSG (1080i) Altitude (1080i) INHD (1080i) HDNet (1080i) FSN BA (1080i) FSN AZ (720p) Discovery HD (1080i) ABC (720p) DirecTV 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i Dish 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i.
It's almost impossible to find 1080P content and the people who do have it are usually ripping it off from the networks after a sporting event is well in the can.
Not to mention that at 37" You can't tell the difference between 1080i and 1080p anyway.
The same people keep saying the same nonsense thinking they're a big shot. 1080p in a tv is great, if you want to pay the $$$. It is silly to complain about it at this price point. 1080p content is available on Blu-ray, I don't know where else you can get it.
i still don't understand how you would make a 1080i panel.
the hd-dvd player with the xbox-360 coming out in a weeks will support 1080p with the component and svga outputs. so there you go. the update coming out soon will also bring the xbox360 to 1080p for games that can support it.
skwiggey said: fatluncher said: unlockedshaders said: Well Emprex products in general have little blemishes here and there, but what annoys me here is the 1080i max resolution. 1080p would've given us a winner.
I wish everyone who posted this nonsense would tell the rest of us where this undiscovered treasure trove of 1080p content is.
CBS (1080i) ESPNHD (720p) ESPN2HD (720p) FOX (720p) NBC (1080i) MSG (1080i) Altitude (1080i) INHD (1080i) HDNet (1080i) FSN BA (1080i) FSN AZ (720p) Discovery HD (1080i) ABC (720p) DirecTV 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i Dish 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i.
It's almost impossible to find 1080P content and the people who do have it are usually ripping it off from the networks after a sporting event is well in the can.
Not to mention that at 37" You can't tell the difference between 1080i and 1080p anyway.
The same people keep saying the same nonsense thinking they're a big shot. 1080p in a tv is great, if you want to pay the $$$. It is silly to complain about it at this price point. 1080p content is available on Blu-ray, I don't know where else you can get it.
True, BluRay offers 1080p content. But don't discount the fact that HD-DVD also offers 1080p content. Both those formats are encoded in 1080p. The only difference is the BluRay player takes the 1080p -> interlaces to 1080i -> then uses a separate chip to de-interlace it back to 1080p -> outputs to the TV. Where as the first generation HD-DVD players take the 1080p and interlaces it to 1080i and then outputs it. If your TV is 1080p capable, it will take the 1080i signal and de-interlace it back to 1080p accordingly. So either way, you will get 1080p. The new 2nd generation HD-DVD player (HD-DVD XA2) will in fact output at 1080p like the current BluRay players do.
skwiggey said: content is available on Blu-ray, I don't know where else you can get it. So far there are about 100 titles shipping on blu-ray disks. Of those, many of them where shot 720 or 1080I anyway. There are very, very few true 1080P disks and there will be no 1080p broadcasts for a long, long time. (the broadcast standard doesn't even exist)
Meanwhile on every HDTV deal for the last 2 years some goober (who's probably watching his mom's 10 year old Zenith because he still lives with her) declares that it offends his well trained eyes because it's not 1080P and nothing else will do... pssshft
And as for using it as a monitor, if you want a 37" inch monitor that only has 1080 lines, your user name better be Mr. Magoo.
By the way, I have a similar Syntax 37" 1366X768 HDTV. It came with an ATSC/NTSC tuner. I got it last BF for $899AR. I also have the RCA HD-DVD player. Set at 720p output, the combination has fantastic image quality. At 37", I don't believe you could tell the difference from 720p and 1080p. Just food for thought.
fatluncher said: skwiggey said: content is available on Blu-ray, I don't know where else you can get it. So far there are about 100 titles shipping on blu-ray disks. Of those, many of them where shot 720 or 1080I anyway. There are very, very few true 1080P disks and there will be no 1080p broadcasts for a long, long time. (the broadcast standard doesn't even exist)
Meanwhile on every HDTV deal for the last 2 years some goober (who's probably watching his mom's 10 year old Zenith because he still lives with her) declares that it offends his well trained eyes because it's not 1080P and nothing else will do... pssshft
And as for using it as a monitor, if you want a 37" inch monitor that only has 1080 lines, your user name better be Mr. Magoo.
I'm not sure where you are getting your information, but you are quite wrong. Althought I do not support BluRay, I can tell you that you could not be any more wrong about movies being shot in 720p or 1080i. That makes no sense. Movies are shot on film, which are much much much higher resolution than 720p or 1080i. The film is then down converted to 1080p. Recently, there have been digital cameras used for filming, which I believe are 1080p. Please stop spreading false information.
I'm not sure where you are getting your information, but you are quite wrong. Althought I do not support BluRay, I can tell you that you could not be any more wrong about movies being shot in 720p or 1080i. That makes no sense. Movies are shot on film, which are much much much higher resolution than 720p or 1080i. The film is then down converted to 1080p. Recently, there have been digital cameras used for filming, which I believe are 1080p. Please stop spreading false information.
No no no... you misunderstand. Yes movies are shot on film... but not every Blue-Ray disk is from movie stock. YES Blu-Ray movies are going to be 1080p. That's obvious.
EDIT: And for the record I own a 42" 1080p.... Not because I cared about the"P" part, but because I got a deal. (I would have bought a 1080i for that price just as well)
I've downloaded 1080P content and played it... It was hardly worth the effort. The difference between that and the same show at 1080i was all but undetectable but the grief of dealing with the files was not.
Now if you find me a 23" 1080p with tuner for $699, you'll have something. I'll use that on my MacMini.
I'm not sure where you are getting your information, but you are quite wrong. Althought I do not support BluRay, I can tell you that you could not be any more wrong about movies being shot in 720p or 1080i. That makes no sense. Movies are shot on film, which are much much much higher resolution than 720p or 1080i. The film is then down converted to 1080p. Recently, there have been digital cameras used for filming, which I believe are 1080p. Please stop spreading false information.
No no no... you misunderstand. Yes movies are shot on film... but not every Blue-Ray disk is from movie stock. YES Blu-Ray movies are going to be 1080p. That's obvious.
EDIT: And for the record I own a 42" 1080p.... Not because I cared about the"P" part, but because I got a deal. (I would have bought a 1080i for that price just as well)
I've downloaded 1080P content and played it... It was hardly worth the effort. The difference between that and the same show at 1080i was all but undetectable but the grief of dealing with the files was not.
Now if you find me a 23" 1080p with tuner for $699, you'll have something. I'll use that on my MacMini.
So please tell me where I "misunderstood" please.
You said quote, "Of those, many of them where shot 720 or 1080I anyway." Then you go on to say, "There are very, very few true 1080P disks..." And now you say "Yes movies are shot on film..." and that "YES Blu-Ray movies are going to be 1080p. That's obvious."
Do you care to explain what exactly you are saying then. Cuz you obviously said something and then did a total 180. What exactly is "movie stock." When a movie is encoded in 1080p and looks bad, the reason it looks bad is because of the material that was used as reference and also the codec used to transfer it. And at 42" like I said for 37", it would be hard to tell the difference between 1080i and 1080p, let alone 720p. You'd truly need a large display of like 60"+ and sitting at a fairly close distance to be able to tell I think.
Everman
Ancient Member
posted: Oct. 15, 2006 @ 7:18p
How's their return policy? I live close enough to a Fry's that it wouldn't be a problem to take it back if needed. This seems pretty hot with free shipping.
Can we possibly not get into an argument about what's worth it and what's not and info about BluRay/HD-DVD. Granted it's very interesting and I actually read all of it, I'd much more like to hear if anyone knows more about this TV or not. On the edge of buying and trying to decide if it's worth it or not.
Do you care to explain what exactly you are saying then. Cuz you obviously said something and then did a total 180. What exactly is "movie stock."
heh... Movie stock is the film the movie is shot on.
I see you level of understanding. Thanks for playing.
Wow. I don't even know where to begin...I see you too...LOL
By the way, as mentioned earlier, although BluRay is 1080p, some of their transfers have been subpar and use the outdated mpeg2 codec, which uses up alot of space. HD-DVDs, on the other hand, use VC-1 encoding. Check out the reviews and you will see, most all the HD-DVDs are rated highly. And no, thank YOU for playing.
synnyster said: fatluncher said: synnyster said: Wow. I don't even know where to begin...
You might try a film class at a local university.
Please, before you throw stones, put together a coherent and grammatically correct sentence.
You can always tell when I guy just made a fool of himself on the internet... He either talks about the other guy's typing (spelling/Grammer) or calls him Hitler.
fatluncher said: synnyster said: fatluncher said: synnyster said: Wow. I don't even know where to begin...
You might try a film class at a local university.
Please, before you throw stones, put together a coherent and grammatically correct sentence.
You can always tell when I guy just made a fool of himself on the internet... He either talks about the other guy's typing (spelling/Grammer) or calls him Hitler.
Well done.
Well done by saying films are shot in 720p or 1080i then backtracking. Also well done by saying very, very, very few BluRay movies are true 1080p, also discounted. Do you have any more incorrect facts to bring up? Or are you done with that? I didn't go to film school, but atleast I'm not spouting off about stuff that is grossly inaccurate.
fatluncher said: synnyster said: As far as the Emprex is concerned, I believe this thread at avsforum discusses the pros and cons of it: Emprex Thread
The OP linked that exact review already. But thank you for the effort.
My mistake.
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cuyax
New Member
posted: Nov. 6, 2006 @ 4:42p
You might try a PS2 playing your PS1 games. It can smooth up the images a little from the initial boot screen.
Otherwise, I think it is time to move on. Btw, are you at least using SVideo cables, Coax, or what? I would not use anything less than RCAs with good insulation (preferably oxygen free like Monster, etc.). No coax if you want a good picture. With the PS2 you can hook up with Component cables.
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