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TCIII
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posted: Jul. 29, 2008 @ 11:53a
Just picked up 2 at Mesquite Texas.....got email in about 5 min. |
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Whatatay
- Senior Member - 1K
posted: Jul. 29, 2008 @ 12:10p
What size air compressor would I need to use this. A quick search at Sears.com showed prices anywhere from $99 to $2600. |
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nguyent999
- Senior Member
posted: Jul. 29, 2008 @ 12:18p
SafetyDance said:integr8shun said:titleist1 said:Thx OP, was going to buy one at Harbor Freight but changed my mind when I saw this - hoping this one would last better. I used FatCash and I think you get another 4% back.
Harbor Freight?!?! You are a brave man! We all love cheap stuff, but putting a China special Harbor Freight 5000 rpm time bomb in your hands is risky business... Thanks to the OP for saving us from Harbor Freight pneumatics.
And where do you think this tool is made? Probably the same plant the HF stuff is made in. Probably so, but with better specifications and quality control. |
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dexterali
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posted: Jul. 29, 2008 @ 12:22p
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TCIII
- Senior Member
posted: Jul. 29, 2008 @ 12:33p
Whatatay said:What size air compressor would I need to use this. A quick search at Sears.com showed prices anywhere from $99 to $2600. Impacts use a large "Volume " of air...a small compressor will work fine for short bursts of use and the comperssor will have to catch up...for steady use you will need a larger compressor...( Larger sustained volume) |
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dmvee
- Broke Member
posted: Jul. 29, 2008 @ 12:36p
Great find... thanks OP. Now to get a bigger compressor as I was already shopping to get one for a floor nailer/stapler. Any advice on one? |
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integr8shun
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posted: Jul. 29, 2008 @ 1:01p
SafetyDance said:integr8shun said:titleist1 said:Thx OP, was going to buy one at Harbor Freight but changed my mind when I saw this - hoping this one would last better. I used FatCash and I think you get another 4% back.
Harbor Freight?!?! You are a brave man! We all love cheap stuff, but putting a China special Harbor Freight 5000 rpm time bomb in your hands is risky business... Thanks to the OP for saving us from Harbor Freight pneumatics.
And where do you think this tool is made? Probably the same plant the HF stuff is made in. There's made in China and there's China special. Craftsman is by no means my preferred brand unless the only other option is HF. |
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Liceman
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posted: Jul. 29, 2008 @ 1:18p
Great deal OP, Thanks. Time to throw out my POS Harbor Freight Impact that couldn't take off lug nuts, which is the primary purpose for me. |
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integr8shun
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posted: Jul. 29, 2008 @ 1:20p
TCIII said:Whatatay said:What size air compressor would I need to use this. A quick search at Sears.com showed prices anywhere from $99 to $2600.
Impacts use a large "Volume " of air...a small compressor will work fine for short bursts of use and the comperssor will have to catch up...for steady use you will need a larger compressor...( Larger sustained volume) You are correct. A 1/2" impact should get about 4.5-5 CFM@90psi to run close to its printed spec torque output. Anything less and you will be sorely disappointed with its performance. Compressors with this output typically run large in tank size (30 gallon range) so space can be an issue. I recommend going with an upright model if this is the case. |
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gizm092
- Senior Member
posted: Jul. 29, 2008 @ 1:27p
aw too bad for me. I don't want the hassle of using a compressor for this. I guess it's back to muscle power for me. |
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JackOfAllTrades
- Senior Member
posted: Jul. 29, 2008 @ 2:14p
Liceman said:Great deal OP, Thanks. Time to throw out my POS Harbor Freight Impact that couldn't take off lug nuts, which is the primary purpose for me.Just be aware of the PSI on this one, which is 340 ft/lbs. Sure, it's a good price, but don't be foolish. There are good and bad products. Harbor Freight carries some better impact wrenches and some that are junk. The last time I checked, Harbor Frieght was a store, not a brand. |
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Buzzer
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posted: Jul. 29, 2008 @ 2:16p
In the reviews a person writes specs are 6.5 CFM. That is a lot. But it appears works for some and doesn't for others on smaller compressors. |
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SRMTSP
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posted: Jul. 29, 2008 @ 3:08p
integr8shun said:Harbor Freight?!?! You are a brave man! We all love cheap stuff, but putting a China special Harbor Freight 5000 rpm time bomb in your hands is risky business... Thanks to the OP for saving us from Harbor Freight pneumatics. LOL, I know for fact that many of Sears tools are made in the same factory as Harbor Freight, Husky, Kobalt, Northern Tools, and some others ;o) Oh, and many are actually made in India You just have to understand which are "disposable" tools...
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Bmr4life
- Senior Member - 10K
posted: Jul. 29, 2008 @ 3:12p
SRMTSP said:integr8shun said:Harbor Freight?!?! You are a brave man! We all love cheap stuff, but putting a China special Harbor Freight 5000 rpm time bomb in your hands is risky business... Thanks to the OP for saving us from Harbor Freight pneumatics.
LOL, I know for fact that many of Sears tools are made in the same factory as Harbor Freight, Husky, Kobalt, Northern Tools, and some others ;o)
Oh, and many are actually made in India
You just have to understand that it is a "disposable" tool... I own it, bought it when it was $20 back in April. Its definately worth no more than $20. It won't last very long and its not strong. I'm used to the stuff Grainger.com sells so this feels like a toy. |
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Netropy
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posted: Jul. 29, 2008 @ 3:23p
Buzzer said:In the reviews a person writes specs are 6.5 CFM. That is a lot. But it appears works for some and doesn't for others on smaller compressors. I've run what I think is an earlier model of this same gun or at least one that's very similar on smaller compressor. Not something that I'd really recommend but it does "work." It's good enough for a couple of quick hits to break free a tough bolt/nut but you probably won't make it through spinning all of the nuts off 5 to 8 lugs when changing a wheel. Not without some patience at least to let it catch up. When I was without anything better, I'd use it to hit each lug quickly just enough to get them moving and from there it's easy enough to do it by hand. Going back on I'm using a torque wrench anyway to tighten so not much use in that case other than just to spin them down faster. It did come in handy a few times for fasteners that I couldn't get started even with a breaker bar so not completely worthless without a larger compressor but obviously not an ideal situation.
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Bmr4life
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posted: Jul. 29, 2008 @ 4:04p
Netropy said:Buzzer said:In the reviews a person writes specs are 6.5 CFM. That is a lot. But it appears works for some and doesn't for others on smaller compressors.
I've run what I think is an earlier model of this same gun or at least one that's very similar on smaller compressor. Not something that I'd really recommend but it does "work." It's good enough for a couple of quick hits to break free a tough bolt/nut but you probably won't make it through spinning all of the nuts off 5 to 8 lugs when changing a wheel. Not without some patience at least to let it catch up. When I was without anything better, I'd use it to hit each lug quickly just enough to get them moving and from there it's easy enough to do it by hand. Going back on I'm using a torque wrench anyway to tighten so not much use in that case other than just to spin them down faster. It did come in handy a few times for fasteners that I couldn't get started even with a breaker bar so not completely worthless without a larger compressor but obviously not an ideal situation. That's definitely different than the one I have (which is the one in this thread). |
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Stingingfork
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posted: Jul. 29, 2008 @ 4:04p
I've never owned an Impact Wrench so let me ask a dumb question, is there any difference between the sockets for the regular 1/2" drive Socket Wrench set which I already own and the 1/2'' Drive Impact Socket Set. I'm assuming none but am I wrong?  |
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hyisbm
- Member
posted: Jul. 29, 2008 @ 4:15p
the gun is a good deal but you definitely do have to have a good compressor unless you're willing to deal with some issues. We have been using a 30 gallon oilless compressor and we did find ourselves having to consistently wait for the compressor to build up if we're trying to get something that's really stuck off. you wouldn't even be able to take off one wheel without the compressor kicking back on. Then you have the noise of the oilless compressor. My brother would much rather do things by hand than fire up the compressor especially if it was just to take the wheels off because it was so loud.I now have a 60 gallon oiled, and you would have to listen for it if you're inside the house. Not to mention you can turn it off after it fills as it would be enough to change wheels.it may cost a little more but in the long run, I think you'll be much happier. |
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SafetyDance
- Senior Member - 7K
posted: Jul. 29, 2008 @ 4:18p
Stingingfork said:I've never owned an Impact Wrench so let me ask a dumb question, is there any difference between the sockets for the regular 1/2" drive Socket Wrench set which I already own and the 1/2'' Drive Impact Socket Set. I'm assuming none but am I wrong?  Generally, you'll crack the regular sockets. But with the lack of power in this gun, that will not be a problem. Impact sockets are built to withstand the power of air tools as well as the "impact" they impose on them. |
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hyisbm
- Member
posted: Jul. 29, 2008 @ 4:18p
Stingingfork said:I've never owned an Impact Wrench so let me ask a dumb question, is there any difference between the sockets for the regular 1/2" drive Socket Wrench set which I already own and the 1/2'' Drive Impact Socket Set. I'm assuming none but am I wrong?  plain and simple, there is a difference. The sockets you have now can shatter like crazy on a impact gun. Whereas, actual impact sockets are softer to absorb the impact. |
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