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johnny98
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posted: Jul. 3, 2009 @ 9:42a
TheGodEye said:johnny98 said:Rtrain82 said:Is the lens included a VR lens?
No, but VR is much more useful for 200-300mm lenses than for lenses less than 100mm.
The review of the lense you posted (Thanks BTW!) seems to suggest that the non-VR is a bad bad thing. I think I would pull the trigger on this deal if it was, but the non VR is giving me pause. Nikon does not make an 18-135 VR lens. The closest would be the very popular 18-200VR lens for $700. There is also a 18-105VR for $360. But again, VR is not especially useful on focal lengths less than 100mm. |
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AGLP2K
- Member
posted: Jul. 3, 2009 @ 10:27a
Brand New with USA warranty for $509 with Free Shipping. Nikon D60 |
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johnny98
- Senior Member - 2K
posted: Jul. 3, 2009 @ 10:38a
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kahluatex
- New Member
posted: Jul. 3, 2009 @ 11:06a
3 Comments: 1. The D60 is a great entry point into DSLR cameras if you've never owned one. It's the Nikon equivalent to a mid-range Canon Rebel. I spent about 15 hours researching digital cameras and lenses, and found this to be ideal for my needs. Here's the most helpful review I found: link. 2. I bought the D60 refurbished a week or two ago for $450 from Newegg (I think), but that included the 18-55mm kit lens and not the longer 18-135mm lens. Great find OP -- I wish I had waited 2 weeks to save some cash and triple my zoom range! As far as I can tell, this is as good as new. I have had no problems with the refurbished model. 3. I like J&R. You can usually call and haggle out an additional 1-5% off, depending on the circumstances. However, I haven't had to return anything to them, so can't say too much about their service. |
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stranger
- Thrifty Member
posted: Jul. 3, 2009 @ 11:58a
D^%n you OP for making my wallet lighter by $430.  Was sitting on the fence for a nikon DSLR. Took the plunge... This is the best price I've seen on refurb Nikons in a very long time. |
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Hardware411
- Senior Member
posted: Jul. 3, 2009 @ 12:41p
OH man..... i got a d40 here that Im thinking of buying a 55-200 VR lens. Here is my dilemma.
Keep my D40 (with 3 yr warranty)and buy 55-200 vr for ~$150 OR Sell D40 for around $350 and buy this refurb kit. |
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dannieboiz
- Tired Member
posted: Jul. 3, 2009 @ 12:54p
I've been waiting out for a Canon XSI but this is a pretty good deal. I've been told that the Nikon lensse are generally much more expensive than the comparable lense. Is this true? Since both cameras seems to be equally good, I'd hate to save a few bucks on the body but spend much more on the lens especially when this is where it makes the difference. |
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johnny98
- Senior Member - 2K
posted: Jul. 3, 2009 @ 1:16p
dannieboiz said:I've been waiting out for a Canon XSI but this is a pretty good deal.
I've been told that the Nikon lensse are generally much more expensive than the comparable lense. Is this true? Since both cameras seems to be equally good, I'd hate to save a few bucks on the body but spend much more on the lens especially when this is where it makes the difference. Newer Nikon and Canon lens prices are similar. Off-brands may be cheaper. If you want to save money, think about buying a Nikon D80, which fully supports the older, cheaper Nikon lenses. Newer Canon cameras do not support the older, cheaper Canon lenses. |
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kahluatex
- New Member
posted: Jul. 3, 2009 @ 1:27p
I love the dpreview site, and can't help but promote it for others interested in photography equipment. For those of you choosing between cameras, you may find these two links helpful: 1. a general guide for choosing dslr cameras (link) 2. a beginners forum has all sorts of threads, including threads like DSLR Recommendation for family and sports |
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choowee
- Senior Member
posted: Jul. 3, 2009 @ 2:02p
what to do, what to do... |
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johnny98
- Senior Member - 2K
posted: Jul. 3, 2009 @ 2:11p
choowee said:what to do, what to do... This is a great price for a great beginner kit. I would not be surprised if they sell out quickly. |
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miscrms
- Senior Member
posted: Jul. 3, 2009 @ 4:33p
TheGodEye said:johnny98 said:Rtrain82 said:Is the lens included a VR lens?
No, but VR is much more useful for 200-300mm lenses than for lenses less than 100mm.
The review of the lense you posted (Thanks BTW!) seems to suggest that the non-VR is a bad bad thing. I think I would pull the trigger on this deal if it was, but the non VR is giving me pause. It really depends what you are going to use it for. This is considered a fairly slow lens, meaning it is pretty limited as to how much light it can let through even when its wide open. That means the camera is going to have to compensate by using a slower shutter speed and/or higher ISO. This is exacerbated at the long (135mm) end, as the lens gets even slower at that end (f5.6, down from f3.5 at 18mm) and you need a faster shutter speed to keep things sharp the greater your magnification is. This is where VR comes in very handy. Its not as good as a faster lens (which are often much more expensive) but for stationary subjects it can easily add 2-3 stops of useful range at any magnification. This becomes an issue more quickly at the long end for the reasons mentioned, but is equally true at the short end. Your just less likely to run into trouble there. Whether all that matters is a big function of what you are shooting, and in what kind of light. If you don't shoot in low light conditions much, VR won't matter much to you. If you are trying to shoot moving subjects in low light, (kids, night sports, indoor sports) VR will also not be of much help. For medium to long zoom in moderate light with fairly still subjects, VR will come in very handy to help you get more sharp shots. Here's Ken Rockwell's take on VR: http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/image-stabilization.htm IMHO, at this price you can't go wrong even without VR. If you are really going to shoot in low light some of the time, your probably going to want a faster lens anyway, VR or no. I started with the 18-55 and 55-200VR, and added the f1.8 35mm DX prime for $200 for shooting the kids indoors. At least now I don't have to use a flash indoors in the day time, and can usually still get the shutter fast enough to keep the kiddos sharp. For lower light I added the SB400 flash for $100 so I can bounce and/or diffuse to get more natural looking flash pictures. For sports at night or indoors you probably really need a f2.8 tele, but now you're talking ~$1000 or more. Rob |
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ne0tekk
- Addicted Member
posted: Jul. 3, 2009 @ 10:56p
Yea! I just jumped on this one since I "might" have a use for it later! Thanks OP! |
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henry33
- Senior Member
posted: Jul. 4, 2009 @ 4:40p
Pretty good deal considering the prices have been heading up lately. My only other suggest would be to sell the 18-135 and get the 18-105 VR. 18-105 VR is about $260 or so on eBay, but that's a refurb, I think at one point they were about $248 for the longest time, but like everything else, the prices have been going up on camera equipment due to the strong yen. There's also 8% bing CashBack on eBay. |
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thewyz
- Member
posted: Jul. 5, 2009 @ 8:46a
I'd been waiting for a similar deal. The 18-135 lens seems ideal to me. Lack of VR does not appear to be a significant issue. Thanks OP. |
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TheSaga3
- New Member
posted: Jul. 5, 2009 @ 7:19p
Does anyone have any info on weather or not you can purchase an extended warranty on this camera? And if so, where? |
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BajaMnstr
- Member
posted: Jul. 5, 2009 @ 7:40p
if you order this camera by telephone, they will offer you a 3yr extended warranty for around 40 dollars. Money well spent if something goes wrong! |
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miscrms
- Senior Member
posted: Jul. 5, 2009 @ 8:42p
TheSaga3 said:Does anyone have any info on weather or not you can purchase an extended warranty on this camera? And if so, where? Pretty sure the Nikon extended warranty does not cover refurbs. You'll have to go with a third party one. |
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BajaMnstr
- Member
posted: Jul. 5, 2009 @ 9:54p
it wasn't a nikon warranty they offered, it was definitely 3rd party through j&R |
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chicoedge
- Senior Member
posted: Jul. 5, 2009 @ 10:10p
gilnavarro said:I am really thinking about this one, but the word refurbished makes me nervous. I've had three camera bodies that have been refurbished by Nikon and haven't regretted it. I've only had one problem and the store sent me another body right away. |
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