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The longer you guys feed CELO the troll, the longer he'll keep this thread full of his crap.


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CELO said:elist said:CELO said:Not being sarcastic but what is the point of getting this? I mean it only shows the wattage you use and does not actually help anything else, does it? It is cool to see how much watt you consume but isn't just that? I mean we all know iron sucks power, hair dryer sucks power, etc. but are we going to do? Stop using ironing or drying our hair??? Sorry, I am just curious and not bashing the deal.

Here you go, perfect example.

I have a PC that I leave on 24/7(Its my PVR PC, FTP server, etc). I actually choose low power components specifically to run cheap. The last mobo/proc I got here off a good Newegg combo deal....almost 2 years ago. Using the Kill-a-watt I was able to know that even with my choices of parts the machine still drew 106W at the Kill-a-Watt plug when it was on. In Ohio the cost for generation/transmission/distribution comes out to be .11/kwh.

So this machine was costing me:
106/1000=.106KWh
.106*24(hours in a day)*30(days in a month)=$8.40/month to run

A new deal came up about 2 months ago for a new mobo and dual core proc faster than the one I had in there and lower power for $40AR FS!

The machine with the new mobo/proc (69W at the Kill-a-Watt plug) costs me this:
69/1000=.069KWh
.069*24(hours in a day)*30(days in a month)=$5.46/month to run

...for a difference of $2.46/month. So upgrading to the faster, more power efficient mobo/proc will PAY FOR ITSELF COMPLETELY in just under 14 months! While I'm waiting I get to enjoy lower power bills and a faster machine! This also assumes electricity stays at its current price. How often does YOUR electricity rate go down?

Thank you Kill-a-watt for letting me buy more crap off FW!

P.S. I won't talk about the old machine I also left on frequently that was drawing 179W!


Be frank with me pls; did you purchase the MB/CPU because you found a deal and the new combo would perform better or you purchased because you realized that you were using too much power? It is common sense, almost all new electronics use less power. You did not have to measure to find out if your old combo was using more than the new one. I will tell you before you make your next combo purchase, the newer model will use less power. When I say this, I do not even have to measure it. Would I know how much exactly you would save? No, but who cares to know that???

Edit: I meant "It is common sense, almost all NEWER MODEL/TECHNOLOGY electronics will use less power.

These yokels wont admit it. By his analogy he will have to buy a new computer in 6 months to save energy.
They try sooooooo hard to justify spending $20 on this. Reminds me of the scene in the movie "Dave", when the President tells one of his staff members that he doesnt wanna tell some children they have nowhere to stay because we have to make consumers feel better about a purchase they already made.


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I guess it's best to just let IZPOOF have the last word.


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Great tool to test PSUs with, although the active PFC in some can screw up the readings.


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CELO said:I see your points guys but the info for all this can be found online or from other sources. The only thing I totally agree is the coolness factor, that's it. Of course this is my opinion.

Information on the net is only approximate (typically listed as max) and even then it's only useful if the device is on 24/7.

It's better to know how much something actually uses (often less than on the power supply), and how much it is on.

I mean, how much am I spending to run my Xbox 360? I don't even know how many hours a day it is on.


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WhoBeDaPlaya said:Great tool to test PSUs with, although the active PFC in some can screw up the readings.

How does that work? Could you explain it to me? This device not only compensates for power factor, but it displays for it. So how can it be fooled?


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I like the idea of being green, saving some money here and there.. But why the electrical outlets do not have a switch attached to it, like you have one for lights. Earlier days, there was switch for the outlets, but when most of the electrinics become remote compatible/always on, the hard switch give way to remote switches. I am going to re-wire my entire house with attached switch for every couple of outlets(well may be not )


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HappyScrappyHeroPup said:CELO said:I see your points guys but the info for all this can be found online or from other sources. The only thing I totally agree is the coolness factor, that's it. Of course this is my opinion.
I mean, how much am I spending to run my Xbox 360? I don't even know how many hours a day it is on.

Will you stop playing games just because you know now how much electric your Xbox is using? C'mon, let's be realistic. You will NOT stop playing just because you know how much power it uses. That is what I have been saying; you know the exact number and it is cool but who cares to know the exact number????


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CELO said:I asked a simple honest question because I wanted to know if I was really missing something. Obviously, I was not. The ONLY post that makes sense to me is dmccall4's because he is using it for his job and that makes sense. For
home use, it just does not make sense for me. I am sorry.

If it was simple honest question, you would stopped at this post.

Sometimes people have different needs and desires than you. Sometimes you have different needs and desires than other people. End of story.


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Minjin said:CELO said:I asked a simple honest question because I wanted to know if I was really missing something. Obviously, I was not. The ONLY post that makes sense to me is dmccall4's because he is using it for his job and that makes sense. For
home use, it just does not make sense for me. I am sorry.

If it was simple honest question, you would stopped at this post.

Sometimes people have different needs and desires than you. Sometimes you have different needs and desires than other people. End of story.

If I did not receive smart ass comments like yours, I would have stopped replying by now.


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CELO said:Minjin said:CELO said:I asked a simple honest question because I wanted to know if I was really missing something. Obviously, I was not. The ONLY post that makes sense to me is dmccall4's because he is using it for his job and that makes sense. For
home use, it just does not make sense for me. I am sorry.

If it was simple honest question, you would stopped at this post.

Sometimes people have different needs and desires than you. Sometimes you have different needs and desires than other people. End of story.


If I did not receive smart ass comments like yours, I would have stopped replying by now.

Dont bother arguing with these zealots. They constantly attempt to come up with more ideas on how to use this junk and when that doesnt work, they resort to name calling.


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Anyone want to bet CELO & Izpoof are the same person?


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Mong said:Anyone want to bet CELO & Izpoof are the same person?

I wanna bet, I do, I do.


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I got my Kill-A-Watt last year and it has changed everything for me. It has opened up my eyes as to what was really going on with my electricity consumption. I now use switches everywhere to avoid using power when the device isn't being used. And I have worked it all out so that it is no bother at all to me. Now all my computer equipment/TVs/DVD players/Stereo are on switches. It's amazing what a little knowledge can do. Found out that my lawn sprinkler timer was consuming 24/7 and decided I didn't even need it. I just turn it on manually.

It also made me wonder what my pool (220watt)pump was using, and that was a revelation. Of course I couldn't use the Kill-A-Watt to tell me, but I did find another way establish that figure. I never realized that in the winter the pool accounted for half of my electric bill and in the summer it was almost half of my usage.

Because of the Kill-A-Watt, I've been on a campaign to stop wasting electricity and yet still maintain my comfort. It has been a sort of game to me. I've always been turned on by numbers. There's something about writing down the numbers and looking at them on paper, each day trying to do better. I'm always finding ways to stop the waste.

I've always recorded my house expenses (20 years worth). And that was so important because now I had a target to work with.

In 1997 I consumed 17,504 kwh for the year (my highest year).
Last year 10,372 kwh.
And this year, at the rate I'm going, I think I will be at 6,000 kwh.

My Florida house is cool (not ice cold like before) and the pool is crystal clear at this rate. I can't help but be angry at myself that I never stopped to really see what I was wasting. It was the Kill-A-Watt device that started me on this journey. Now I often think about all the thousands of dollars I wasted in the past. I think about all the technology items that money could buy. Boy does it make me angry.

Kill-A-Watt I love you.


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Izpoof, maybe you should hang it up. Your logic also applies to yourself. "If you want feel better about not buying this, then you certainly do not need to post here to feel it. Just smile and tell yourself it was money you saved and you can believe yourself." Save us your soapbox antics.

Also the tampon analogy is correct as the very definition of analogy is "Similarity in some respects between things that are otherwise dissimilar."


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Frankly, folks, you should stop feeding Izpoof the troll. Why trying to prove that this is a useful device to someone with no imagination, limited metal capacity and who still lives in his mom's basement and pays no utility bills? Just lay it off, the smart will buy it if they have not already.


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Lets stop the arguing and stay on topic folks. Thanks!


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As much as I agree with you stay on topic and stop feeding the IzpoofCELO's. Anyway the deal is semi dead now. Price is $20 and no free shipping unless you buy 2.


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I'm glad we are all rational, logical adults and understand why this is a great or not so great device. Some like to quantify improvements and know how much they are helping themselves and whether the $$$ are worth the effort. Others are just as happy knowing that new stuff is more energy efficient and that if you turn it off at the outlet, you will save some $$$.

I will say that the best not talked about reason I haven't seen for this is for those who have kids. Younger kids will think its cool(if you can keep them from unplugging or resetting it ), and you can use it to dock your teenager's allowance by a specific amount if they can't remember to turn things off when they leave a room (it's just a set $$$ amount if that device is turned off or reset). If they figure out what the break even point is, more power to them. They actually had to figure something out and think about energy use to make it worth their while.

BTW, I don't own one of these yet, but I do keep thinking about buying one, and probably will eventually. It just hasn't been worth the effort to me yet.


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This Wattage List is from a AMZN reviewer who Purchased the Belkin BG108000 after he used a power meter(aka KillaWatt).
http://www.Amazon.com/Belkin-BG108000-04-Conserve-Energy-Saving/product-reviews/B001GQ2W6W/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

Devices OFF/suspend Watts (estimating from memory)
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Sharp Aquos 40
Wii 5
Apple TV 12
Popcorn Hour 15
Wireless Bridge 10
Oppo DVD player 1
Reciever 5

Sharp should be ashame of themselves. You'll be spending over $35 a year while no using their TV.


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