In 4 1 only $50 back but thats still pretty darn good. $25 for a wireless printer (including tax)
keener11
Member
posted: Sep. 10, 2009 @ 8:29a
Trade in may be invalidated if used with coupon code. Trade in must have been owned for at least one year, so no trading in another 8000 wired or wireless from previous deals.
"Trade-in proof-of-ownership requirements The end-user or Authorized HP Channel Partner must warrant that all trade-in equipment has been owned by the end-user for at least one year and has been used in the end-user's business in the previous year."
treehugger said: In 4 1 only $50 back but thats still pretty darn good. $25 for a wireless printer (including tax)
Printer listed by OP is not wireless. Wireless 8000 is $99.99 - $50 rebate = 49.99
coolfun
New Member
posted: Sep. 10, 2009 @ 8:38a
The following is from the HPCash Back terms and conditions. Does any one know if the instant rebate will kill this Cash Back deal?
"Combining with special pricing or other promotions
This will be determined based on the proof of purchase received, the difference between the purchase price and the street price. The net Cash Back will equal the HP Trade-In and Save Program Cash Back allowance minus the difference between the proof of purchase price and the MSRP. If the difference is higher than the Cash Back allowance for the promotion, the user will not be eligible for the Cash Back allowance, but will be given the option to ship the trade-in printer for recycling."
Looks like people need to read the T & C . Within them there is a table listing the maximum allowable Cash Back. Looks like the application of the coupon code will reduce the $ amount on the tradein.
xxxxxxx
Member
posted: Sep. 10, 2009 @ 8:49a
keener11 said: Coupon will invalidate the trade in rebate.
This is direct from the link on the printer's page. It sure doesn't sound like the coupon will invalidate the trade-in rebate to me:
Combining with special pricing or other promotions
This offer MAY NOT be combined with (or “stacked” with) other promotional offers or trade-in programs, except National HP Instant Rebates as defined below or with channel specific programs that have been approved for combinability by HP but only up to the maximum allowable rebate amount listed on the Eligible Products Chart.
"Instant rebates" are defined as, but not limited to, instant savings, product specific coupons, product specific promotional pricing, and mail-in rebates. When combined with an approved promotional offer, the combination of that savings and the Trade-In and Save offer, the total rebate amount cannot exceed the maximum allowable rebate for that product.
C320 said: Looks like people need to read the T & C . Within them there is a table listing the maximum allowable Cash Back. Looks like the application of the coupon code will reduce the $ amount on the tradein.
Unfortunately, it looks like I'm in agreement with you. Using the same info I provided above, it looks like the cheapest (after trade-in rebate, instant rebate, coupon, etc.) that either the 8000 wired or wireless printer can be obtained is $30.
Original price of 8000 wireless is $180 - $150 (maximum rebate amount) = $30.
Original price of 8000 wired is $150 - $120 (maximum rebate amount) = $30.
Combining with special pricing or other promotions
This offer MAY NOT be combined with (or “stacked” with) other promotional offers or trade-in programs, except National HP Instant Rebates as defined below or with channel specific programs that have been approved for combinability by HP but only up to the maximum allowable rebate amount listed on the Eligible Products Chart.
"Instant rebates" are defined as, but not limited to, instant savings, product specific coupons, product specific promotional pricing, and mail-in rebates. When combined with an approved promotional offer, the combination of that savings and the Trade-In and Save offer, the total rebate amount cannot exceed the maximum allowable rebate for that product.
Even at $30 the wireless one is decent price IMHO.
xxxxxxx
Member
posted: Sep. 10, 2009 @ 9:49a
treehugger said: Even at $30 the wireless one is decent price IMHO.
I agree.
I just tried to cancel my 8000 wired printer order (which I only placed an hour ago) but the printer had already been sent to FedEx (that's sure fast). Now I'll have to send it back after I receive it (they pay to ship it back though).
Note - I just called in and talked with a CSR in the rebate department and it does work the way I thought it did. You can't get either printer for a net cost of less than $30.
The title of this thread should definitely be changed.
xxxxxxx said: treehugger said: Even at $30 the wireless one is decent price IMHO.
I agree.
I just tried to cancel my 8000 wired printer order (which I only placed an hour ago) but the printer had already been sent to FedEx (that's sure fast). Now I'll have to send it back after I receive it (they pay to ship it back though).
Note - I just called in and talked with a CSR in the rebate department and it does work the way I thought it did. You can't get either printer for a net cost of less than $30.
The title of this thread should definitely be changed.
1st rule of doing deal is "do not call". 2nd rule of doing deal is "not to assume CSR knows what they are talking about".
FYI. I have already e-mailed my receipt (from HP's website) to HP trade in. If there is question about trade-in rebate, I will have time to refuse delivery of the printer.
xxxxxxx
Member
posted: Sep. 10, 2009 @ 10:03a
JimsEmptyWallet said: xxxxxxx said: treehugger said: Even at $30 the wireless one is decent price IMHO.
I agree.
I just tried to cancel my 8000 wired printer order (which I only placed an hour ago) but the printer had already been sent to FedEx (that's sure fast). Now I'll have to send it back after I receive it (they pay to ship it back though).
Note - I just called in and talked with a CSR in the rebate department and it does work the way I thought it did. You can't get either printer for a net cost of less than $30.
The title of this thread should definitely be changed.
1st rule of doing deal is "do not call". 2nd rule of doing deal is "not to assume CSR knows what they are talking about".
Sorry, you may be a senior member but you're wrong on this one. Calling in to verify the specifics of a rebate is not "ruining" the chances of anyone getting in on this deal (a deal, which in fact, is misleadingly described in the title of the thread). Additionally, even though I agree that many CSRs have no idea what they're talking about, this one was from the U.S. and was very knowledgeable. Given what she said, and what is now obvious to myself and others after CAREFULLY reading through the T & C (something I should have done before ordering), the least anyone is going to get either of these printers for is $30.
xxxxxxx said: JimsEmptyWallet said: xxxxxxx said: treehugger said: Even at $30 the wireless one is decent price IMHO.
I agree.
I just tried to cancel my 8000 wired printer order (which I only placed an hour ago) but the printer had already been sent to FedEx (that's sure fast). Now I'll have to send it back after I receive it (they pay to ship it back though).
Note - I just called in and talked with a CSR in the rebate department and it does work the way I thought it did. You can't get either printer for a net cost of less than $30.
The title of this thread should definitely be changed.
1st rule of doing deal is "do not call". 2nd rule of doing deal is "not to assume CSR knows what they are talking about".
Sorry, you may be a senior member but you're wrong on this one. Calling in to verify the specifics of a rebate is not "ruining" the chances of anyone getting in on this deal (a deal, which in fact, is misleadingly described in the title of the thread). Additionally, even though I agree that many CSRs have no idea what they're talking about, this one was from the U.S. and was very knowledgeable. Given what she said, and what is now obvious to myself and others after CAREFULLY reading through the T & C (something I should have done before ordering), the least anyone is going to get either of these printers for is $30.
As long as the trade-in center approves his trade-in, he will get it for <$30. I've seen it done before. 99% of the time it works. As long as the coupon code that was used is not specifically for that printer model, i.e. it is a discount coupon off the total order and not off the printer itself, he will likely get the trade in rebate.
xxxxxxx said: Sorry, you may be a senior member but you're wrong on this one. Calling in to verify the specifics of a rebate is not "ruining" the chances of anyone getting in on this deal (a deal, which in fact, is misleadingly described in the title of the thread). Additionally, even though I agree that many CSRs have no idea what they're talking about, this one was from the U.S. and was very knowledgeable. Given what she said, and what is now obvious to myself and others after CAREFULLY reading through the T & C (something I should have done before ordering), the least anyone is going to get either of these printers for is $30.
Dig out some old threads about HP printer trade in deals for the last 4~6 months and you will see how people got more than the supposed maximum coupon/trade-in discount. I belive the 1st few were about buying the Staples version of the HP 8000 wireless printer. Even though Staples has their own model/part number and is not listed in the HP trade in site, HP still pay $50 for trade in when a printer is sent to them.
I have several printers in need of recycling, but decided to take a wait and see approach. These HP trade-in deals seemed too good to be true. The rebate language especially allows HP too much wiggle room.
My biggest qualm concerned the need for proper disclosure on individual "HP Street Price" or "maximum allowable rebate for that product." For this information, apparently, you would need to contact nicole.barrett@HP.com.
There also seems to language specific to "instant rebates"..... " instant rebates are defined as, but not limited to, instant savings, product specific coupons, product specific promotional pricing, and mail-in rebates. This would seem to implicate even those printers purchased at Newegg and Staples using coupon codes. I'm not completely sure, but it seems these HP printer deals have the potential for much unhappiness and general discord.
medicswife2002
New Member
posted: Sep. 10, 2009 @ 1:03p
Here is a very stupid question: I have two older printers in my basement that I've been meaning to put in a yard sale, but this seems like such a great deal (thanks to you guys for all the info you post on here!). Okay, I read the T&C on the HP site, etc, but am really having a hard time figuring out *how* I can 'prove' ownership.
I mean, I did read about the end user agreement stuff, but I don't understand what that means. I also do not have my receipts anymore. One my dad sent me, and one I bought at WalMart. How do I prove it if I chose to send one in with the paperwork? Is this something they actually check?
Thanks so much in advance, I absolutely love you guys! On here reading every single day but too afraid to post...so please be kind.
NEED any other reasons for TORT and LEGAL reform....
croushore said: I have several printers in need of recycling, but decided to take a wait and see approach. These HP trade-in deals seemed too good to be true. The rebate language especially allows HP too much wiggle room.
My biggest qualm concerned the need for proper disclosure on individual "HP Street Price" or "maximum allowable rebate for that product." For this information, apparently, you would need to contact nicole.barrett@HP.com.
There also seems to language specific to "instant rebates"..... " instant rebates are defined as, but not limited to, instant savings, product specific coupons, product specific promotional pricing, and mail-in rebates. This would seem to implicate even those printers purchased at Newegg and Staples using coupon codes. I'm not completely sure, but it seems these HP printer deals have the potential for much unhappiness and general discord.
Combining with special pricing or other promotions For eligible Officejet Pro products, combinability of the Trade-In and Save Now rebate amount and instant rebates are allowed when the instant rebate is advertised. For example, if the Trade In and Save Now Cash Back allowance rebate amount is $50 and there is a valid Instant Rebate on the eligible OfficeJet Pro sku of $30, the customer will receive the sum of the two amounts – in this case, $80).
"Instant rebates" are defined as, but not limited to, instant savings, product specific coupons, product specific promotional pricing, and mail-in rebates.
nishantgupta said: In terms and condition it says, Text
Combining with special pricing or other promotions For eligible Officejet Pro products, combinability of the Trade-In and Save Now rebate amount and instant rebates are allowed when the instant rebate is advertised. For example, if the Trade In and Save Now Cash Back allowance rebate amount is $50 and there is a valid Instant Rebate on the eligible OfficeJet Pro sku of $30, the customer will receive the sum of the two amounts – in this case, $80).
Here's what the HP Trade-In and Save 2009 Terms and Condition states, which contradicts that text.
============================================================= Combining with special pricing or other promotions This offer MAY NOT be combined with (or "stacked" with) other promotional offers or trade-in programs, except National HP Instant Rebates as defined below or with channel specific programs that have been approved for combinability by HP but only up to the maximum allowable rebate amount listed on the Eligible Products Chart.
"Instant rebates" are defined as, but not limited to, instant savings, product specific coupons, product specific promotional pricing, and mail-in rebates. When combined with an approved promotional offer, the combination of that savings and the Trade-In and Save offer, the total rebate amount cannot exceed the maximum allowable rebate for that product.
In the case where there is a Big Deal/Contract pricing, customer can take the higher of the two. This will be based off of HP Street Price. (Contact nicolebarrett@HP.com for any exceptions.) If the customer does not qualify for any additional rebates, they are still eligible to receive the free shipping and free recycling, based on the fact that a new eligible printer or scanner was purchased. The customer needs to contact nicole.barrett@HP.com to complete the form. =============================================================
Now, what constitutes "specific programs that have been approved for combinability by HP," or whether the PDF language is enforced is anyone's guess. Certainly some of the more recent FAC (free after coupon) HP trade-in deals are getting nearer to the HP Street Price. I for one would be peeved to get less than the expect $50 rebate from HP.
Don't mess with the "combining" language. I did 2 rebates, one combinable $25, and other not for $70 for "printer w/computer on same reciept." HP threw my $70 paperwork away and wouldn't give me a tracking number for it. I fought for 6 months untill they finally paid me the $45 difference, but never the "combined" amount. They will choose to honour the lower of the two offers and do not care about the customer. Just my personal experience.
PennySaved said: I ordered the wireless HP 8000. Will work great on trips when needing to print something out from laptop. Thanks OP! On trips??? Have you seen the size of this monster?
Area51knowitall said: Don't mess with the "combining" language. I did 2 rebates, one combinable $25, and other not for $70 for "printer w/computer on same reciept." HP threw my $70 paperwork away and wouldn't give me a tracking number for it. I fought for 6 months untill they finally paid me the $45 difference, but never the "combined" amount. They will choose to honour the lower of the two offers and do not care about the customer. Just my personal experience. Unless I'm missing something (correct me if I am), you're comparing apples and oranges... the trade-in program with $50 rebate is different than what you're talking about. Many people have already reported success with combining coupons with the $50 trade in rebate. Both in store, and via return ship to HP.
As of now (Thu eve, 2145 PDT), the wired version is out of stock ("please check back soon") but the wireless unit (which has ethernet capability) is still available. Costs a bit more money, however ($25), for wireless. With a $50 credit for a turned in printer, the prices aren't bad, in my view. Maybe free shipping, too.
FlyingBoat
Senior Member
posted: Sep. 11, 2009 @ 12:56a
Trying to understand the point of your post about pm at OD. So you get the OD price at $99.99? How is that a better deal then buying at HP? Is it because you use a $20 off $100 coupon to get it down to $80? Then it is still a $30 printer with $50 trade in, correct? Please explain the deal you get at OD?
Abdu said: I am lost. Can't make up my mind if this is a deal or not . Can anybody clarify what one can expect. Duh! Simple. What is the suggested retail price of the printer and what is the price after coupons, trade-in etc. Then ask yourself the question: Do I really need this or not?? A deal is a deal - but I pass on many of them. again, Do I really need this or not. If still undecided, then pass on this. That will leave one more in inventory for someone else who will grab this deal.
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