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This is a 45nm processor and has been unlocking to four cores with the right motherboard. This is the right motherboard.



edit: I sincerely apologize I did not realize this was some new rebranding. Very interesting anyone have any info on this


-still not sure if it unlocks to quad


Anyone care to comment on why this is bad deal instead of just rating it?


This is a new 45nm processor that is branded the same as the old 65nm. Its actually a Deneb core.


I was under the impression that the Regors are not able to unlock the other two cores, and that only the black edition 5000+ come with unlocked modifiers for overclocking. I thought that the Regor was a native dual core processor (nothing else to unlock) as opposed to the Callistos which are quad cores with two cores locked. Anyone else have any info or insight?


Its not a Regor. Regor is a native dual core processor. This is a Deneb core.

edit: The multiplier is locked at 11 on this chip. Only the 2 other cores and cache unlock.


Sorry about that, you are correct that this is not a Regor, but I still cannot find anything about unlocking the other cores. Any links or info would be great.


I did a quick google search.

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It's not a bad deal, but Newegg has several combos with this board. The only cpus that can have the potential for being unlocked are the tri core phenom II, or the 550 series, which has 2 disabled cores.


"It's not a bad deal, but Newegg has several combos with this board. The only cpus that can have the potential for being unlocked are the tri core phenom II, or the 550 series, which has 2 disabled cores."

Are you saying this cant be unlocked?


The Sempron 140 Can be unlocked also.


Guess I should have posted an extension cord.


this was the closest thing I could find to a confirmation, but I'm not sure if the MSI 785 motherboard is equivalent to the motherboard in this deal.

I'm really interested if this combo is confirmed to be able to unlock.


I bought this board with the Phenom II 550 to unlock and oc it.The 5000 is not a high performance processor, regardless of what board it's in.


pupowski said: I bought this board with the Phenom II 550 to unlock and oc it.The 5000 is not a high performance processor, regardless of what board it's in.

Can you not read? This is not the same 5000 from 2 years ago.

Ill be sure not to waste my time here from now on.


It is true to unlock 45nM AMD 5000+ 2.2G, get a quad-core Phenom FX5000. Last day I received this combo, open 4 cores and 6M L3. I still need test the stability of CPU, depending on CPU and Motherboard. It is a very good overclock MB except no DDR3 and SidePort Memory. Note: This CPU only for DDR2 support,This GIGA MB requires ACC set AUTO,Special Core mode set to Hybrid in BIOS.


I bought the same proc and mobo. No go on the unlock. latest BIOS and everything. Will not boot, so YMMV on the unlock. In fact the Sempron will clock and perform better after unlocking it.


I believe Unlocking is always YMMV

I bought a X2 550 myself a while ago, but no luck unlocking the other 2 cores on Gigabyte 785G MB

It would not post.


"I bought the same proc and mobo. No go on the unlock. latest BIOS and everything. Will not boot, so YMMV on the unlock. In fact the Sempron will clock and perform better after unlocking it."

What was the stepping on the chip you received?


OP can you either post instructions on unlocking this to quad core or post a link to verify that it will unlock with this mobo. It is confirmed that this processor unlocks to quadcore but its not definitive that it will with this mobo


could you post some pic? any tricky steps to unlock it?
Thinking of buying one. Thanks.

cjtct said: It is true to unlock 45nM AMD 5000+ 2.2G, get a quad-core Phenom FX5000. Last day I received this combo, open 4 cores and 6M L3. I still need test the stability of CPU, depending on CPU and Motherboard. It is a very good overclock MB except no DDR3 and SidePort Memory. Note: This CPU only for DDR2 support, MB requires ACC in BIOS.


On the whole unlocking cores thing.

I bought the sempron/gigabyte 785G combo for 96.XX, it does not unlock, stable anyway. It will post as dual core but windows will crash and computer restarts every time. OTOH it clocks to 3.7 Ghz easily, of course even there HULU kicks it's arse ... can't wait for Flash 10.1


According to this its the gigabyte 785gx that's able to unlock it. Im still not seeing the 785gm anywhere


I updated my post for details, please recall my post. I am looking for a good cpu cooler. AMD cooler looks very cheap.


Verify so i can buy


This is the same motherboard that people are using to unlcok the Semprons.
Sempron Combo


robertk2012 said: This is the same motherboard that people are using to unlcok the Semprons.
Sempron Combo

I got this combo last week and was able to unlock the Sempron to Athlon II X2 4400e, Prime95 for 8+ hours w/o problems. Haven't upgraded the BIOS just in case Gigabyte decides to deisable the unlocking features.


So I'm guessing we're all still waiting on the sidelines for confirmation before pulling the trigger.


XtremeSystems Discussion on unlocking the chip.


But IF you can't unlock it (if it's like the Sempron where some can, some can't), even though dual core, you're stuck with only a native 2.2ghz CPU, only 512MB L2 cache, and no L3 cache, vs. might the Sempron at 2.7ghz (which someone just above said they overclocked to 3.7ghz) be a better deal? Or maybe one of the other combo deals I mentioned in that thread yesterday. Seems like kind of a bigger gamble than the Sempron deal (which is a gamble itself). I guess the question is what percent of the 5000+ don't unlock?


According to the info I gather from google, it's a Deneb core processor that can be unlocked and many people have done it. Choosing a right motherboard is critical for the unlocking, both MSI 785GTM and this board can do that.

The downside is that the overclocking of this cpu rather limited, 2.5G seems to be the average level. And it only support DDR2 ram.

All data above is gather from google.

BTW, I've bought the cpu few days ago and I am now choosing the MB. I should have seen this combo. The later you buy, the less odds to unlock.


robertk2012 said: Guess I should have posted an extension cord.
robertk2012 said: Ill be sure not to waste my time here from now on.
Not everyone likes a given deal. Some people give red for no particular reason. They're morons, but what are you gonna do about it?

Not everything thats a "deal" to one person is considered a "deal" to someone else. If a few negative comments are enough to scare you off, then you're right, you shouldn't waste your time here.

Of course, I'd prefer if you'd get a slightly thicker skin and stick around. Thanks for the post, op.


wfay said: robertk2012 said: Guess I should have posted an extension cord.
robertk2012 said: Ill be sure not to waste my time here from now on.
Not everyone likes a given deal. Some people give red for no particular reason. They're morons, but what are you gonna do about it?

Not everything thats a "deal" to one person is considered a "deal" to someone else. If a few negative comments are enough to scare you off, then you're right, you shouldn't waste your time here.

Of course, I'd prefer if you'd get a slightly thicker skin and stick around. Thanks for the post, op.

I didnt give red to op, but its funny, cuz I dont even see red on the original post. Its a bunch of green to me.


It was red to begin with and I even had a very rude PM. I found it very strange.


I went to my local microcenter - they have the sargas 2.7 that can be unlocked for $30.
the gigabyte motherboard required costs about $100.

buying a regular dual core athlon runs about $20 more. But this gigabyte motherboard without ACC is half price.

So I pay $50 more for a motherboard or I spend $20 more for a dual proc that is stable and does not need unlocking.

I picked the lesser cost MB & more expensive CPU ... and saved enough for 4 GB of ram.

right ?


Unlocking these is a real crapshoot. Some will go, but a lot wont. I think you're way better off overclocking with the existing cores than unlocking, because you almost certainly arent going to get both the unlock and an overclock to work.

A lot of the mobo manufacturers are also being pressed by AMD to close off the loophole that lets you do the unlock. So make sure the mobo you're getting has the right firmware level before you buy.


"I went to my local microcenter - they have the sargas 2.7 that can be unlocked for $30.
the gigabyte motherboard required costs about $100.

buying a regular dual core athlon runs about $20 more. But this gigabyte motherboard without ACC is half price.

So I pay $50 more for a motherboard or I spend $20 more for a dual proc that is stable and does not need unlocking.

I picked the lesser cost MB & more expensive CPU ... and saved enough for 4 GB of ram.

right ?"


You can get that same processor and this gigabyte motherboard with acc for less than $100 shipped.


robertk2012 said: "I went to my local microcenter - they have the sargas 2.7 that can be unlocked for $30.
the gigabyte motherboard required costs about $100.

buying a regular dual core athlon runs about $20 more. But this gigabyte motherboard without ACC is half price.

So I pay $50 more for a motherboard or I spend $20 more for a dual proc that is stable and does not need unlocking.

I picked the lesser cost MB & more expensive CPU ... and saved enough for 4 GB of ram.

right ?"


You can get that same processor and this gigabyte motherboard with acc for less than $100 shipped.

Would you please provide link info - I was at Frys saturday and I think those numbers don't back you up.

Checking their web site seems not this way as well.


I was talking about the sempron 2.7.

combo


Well, I pulled the trigger. Will post post my success or failure, if interested.


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I've found some more info on using this board with CrossfireX. Apparently, it's just "Hyrbrid CrossfireX", and with our 785G chipset the options are limited. According to this Anandtech article, only the older 3450 or 3470 video cards can be paired in CrossfireX mode.
Anandtech 785G with 3450/3470

Compatibility Chart from AMD

Reviews of 4350 and 4550




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