Here's a decent deal on a new server that would be pretty good for a entry-level server or even a relatively decent deaktop. After modifying the hard drive selection, the price comes down to $300 and you can get an additional $4.50 back with FW Cash Back.
That's a great price. Only thing that some people might find useful is that the X3430 is the only model without hyperthreading. It could make a difference to some who encode, but not for most!
mikeopp said: Are all recent win 32-bit oper. systems compatible?
Yes, they are compatible.
FYI, this processor is using the new Lynnfield core architecture from Intel. It's kindof like a hybrid between Core 2 Quad and Core i7, in the sense that it uses the execution/processing architecture of the 45nm Core 2 Quad, but has some new memory and bus architecture from Nehalem (i7, i5, etc). Ie, it doesn't have QuickPath (Intel's equivalent of HyperTransport), but it still has direct links to PCI-Express AND the southbridge, which is great. So expect it to perform as well or better than Core 2 Quad, but not as well as Core i7. This is especially true for the X3430 because this is the only processor in this Xeon model line that doesn't have Hyperthreading.
To summarize: Xeon X3430 Uses new DDR3 mem architecture Direct links to PCI-E and Southbridge Basically same processing core as Core 2 Quad Does NOT have Hyperthreading 32 bit and 64 bit OS compatible
jasonv1
Member
posted: Oct. 22, 2009 @ 3:14p
Don't forget Bing for 5% more off.
ynguldyn
Greedy Member
posted: Oct. 22, 2009 @ 3:19p
Not really viable as a desktop: it's 41dBA at idle in bystander position - for comparison, the Optiplex 780 has 23dBA. The noise will be unbearable.
No, as in the description above, it has 4 PCIe G2 slots.
PG
Member
posted: Oct. 22, 2009 @ 4:02p
ynguldyn said: Not really viable as a desktop: it's 41dBA at idle in bystander position - for comparison, the Optiplex 780 has 23dBA. The noise will be unbearable.
I haven't ordered from Dell for a long time. In the shipping options there is a Designated Carrier option for $0.00. Is that free shipping or do I need to select the 3-5 day shipping for $25?
ryandean said: I haven't ordered from Dell for a long time. In the shipping options there is a Designated Carrier option for $0.00. Is that free shipping or do I need to select the 3-5 day shipping for $25?Only select DC option if you are going to provide a UPS/Fedex account number which will be charged for the shipping cost.
Nearly everyone should pick the 3-5 day shipping for $25.
Does it have E-PCI? Would it be a good gaming and video editing machine? Any sound card included?
ryandean
Member
posted: Oct. 22, 2009 @ 6:21p
wfay said: ryandean said: I haven't ordered from Dell for a long time. In the shipping options there is a Designated Carrier option for $0.00. Is that free shipping or do I need to select the 3-5 day shipping for $25?Only select DC option if you are going to provide a UPS/Fedex account number which will be charged for the shipping cost.
Nearly everyone should pick the 3-5 day shipping for $25.
Thanks for the info. Green for the deal BTW.
I was very tempted to get the T105 for $250 a while back. I'm glad I waited since I don't need the extra hard drive.
liquidst
Ancient Member
posted: Oct. 22, 2009 @ 7:20p
With only a pcie x8 slot (with x16 connector) how much does that limit higher end graphics cards? would they function relatively normal with just a partial performance hit? obviously the power supply would probably need to be upgraded as well to put in something like an ATI 4750 or other high end card?
duijver
Senior Member
posted: Oct. 22, 2009 @ 7:25p
liquidst said: With only a pcie x8 slot (with x16 connector) how much does that limit higher end graphics cards? would they function relatively normal with just a partial performance hit? obviously the power supply would probably need to be upgraded as well to put in something like an ATI 4750 or other high end card?
Take this for what it's worth...
I had a PowerEdge 1800 for about 4 years (Dual Xeon 3.0 ghz 2MB cache P4 style chip) with an x8 to x16 converter running an ATI x800 and then nVidia GTS8800. I too was interested in seeing what the differences were because they were supposed to be significant so I popped both cards in a Dell XPS with a single Dual Process (first gen) CPU running @ 2.8 GHz. Using 3DMark06 the scores were slightly HIGHER in the PE1800.
The powersupply just went on my PE1800, so I picked up a used Dell Precision ( Dual Xeon 5160 chips ) with a true 16x PCIe slot and 1333 FSB. I ran the test again on that system and the 3Dmark06 scores for the GTS8800 was almost double. I was very surprised.
liquidst
Ancient Member
posted: Oct. 22, 2009 @ 7:32p
So probably more related to the horsepower of the card and chipset of the bridge then... interesting results though.
ingenue007 said: can i do hardware raid with the internal SAS 6ir or do i need to buy a separate raid card? if so, which Dell SAS card would i buy?
Uh, specify what raid level you are looking for first. Then Google PERC 5/i and take the overclock.net link. Supa doopa raid card for 100 bucks or so. PERC 5/i or 6/i. Does most everything.
Warning: Dell. May contain cheap parts made in China slums.
RebateMonger
Senior Member - 3K
posted: Oct. 22, 2009 @ 9:47p
austan said: does it accept standard memory? or is this the one that the memory cost more than the Server itself? I'm getting a couple of these for a client, mostly because Dell offers them with the new Windows Server 2008R2 Foundation software for only about $250 extra.
They use ultra-pricy RDIMM and UDIMM memory. It's about twice as much as DDR2 used by the Dell T100 and T105.
These make horrible desktop and gaming PCs, and are awfully noisy and power-hungry for a Windows Home Server box. They are low-price business servers.
Don't get me wrong. I like Dell low-end servers just fine. I've used them for years in my own and other's businesses. But Dell goes out of its way to make those servers NOT a good choice for home use. The Dell SC440, for instance, that I bought for $200 a year ago, has an 8x PCI-E slot. But if you put an 8x video card in it (greatly limiting your choices), it'll run at 1x speed.
i recently purchased a t105 and tried using a few hardware raid cards but none of them worked, so i called Dell and was told that only the sas 6r was supported, does anyone else disagree?
RebateMonger
Senior Member - 3K
posted: Oct. 22, 2009 @ 10:01p
minghi said: i recently purchased a t105 and tried using a few hardware raid cards but none of them worked, so i called Dell and was told that only the sas 6r was supported, does anyone else disagree? Dells are known for being very picky about which RAID cards they will work with. The explanation I've heard is that Dell changes the standard BIOSes a lot, leaving a spaghetti-like BIOS memory with few places to plug in the RAID card BIOS. I've had problems with 3Ware, LSI, and HighPoint cards with Dell 400SC, 1600SC, and SC440 servers. My HighPoint 2310 card had the ability to disable some stuff that made it work with my Dell SC440.
If you want trouble-free RAID setup with a Dell server, get a Dell RAID card that's approved for that server.
austan
New Member
posted: Oct. 22, 2009 @ 11:15p
Thanks RebateMonger!!!
I'll have to sleep on this deal...
newsroom
Member
posted: Oct. 22, 2009 @ 11:28p
I had to pull the trigger. Hopefully this will be a decent server to run 64-bit OS and hyper-v setup.
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