(I updated the title because of an ever changing price. Please see user posts. It was a great deal when I posted it, and then got better and per Costco's website, it's on sale for one day now and the price will change again soon.)
This is pretty good, isn't it? Will be getting one as a gift for someone in dire need of a bright light.
OK, so they're probably using XR-E chips, 3x, at 400ma each. That means about 1.2A draw on the batteries , depending on how they're wired and if it's a buck or boost config.
At full brightness the 10 hour run time can't be right- a NiMH rechargeable tops in at 5000ma (best), typical is 3000ma, and then you're looking at voltage sag.
I'd say about 3 hours, tops, at full brightness and probably closer to 2.
HOWEVER- I do have some homemade 600+ lumen lights (running 3x 1A drivers) drawing from 4x AAs (overheat) and don't leave them on for more than 5 minutes or the heatsink gets too hot- and they're pretty damn bright.
I'd say this is a great purchase for stuffing in stockings. I could check it out on Candlepower forums but I just don't have the energy.
these r good to keep in ur house and garage. but id rather use a ultrafire cree that uses 1aa to keep in my car and pocket. those costs about 10 shipped from china. search it on dealextereme. the ultrafire wont reach 10hour run time for sure.
bage1978 said: these r good to keep in ur house and garage. but id rather use a ultrafire cree that uses 1aa to keep in my car and pocket. those costs about 10 shipped from china. search it on dealextereme. the ultrafire wont reach 10hour run time for sure. Which one is it?
coolbreeze said: bage1978 said: these r good to keep in ur house and garage. but id rather use a ultrafire cree that uses 1aa to keep in my car and pocket. those costs about 10 shipped from china. search it on dealextereme. the ultrafire wont reach 10hour run time for sure. Which one is it?
but please note this is single mode and can run about 45min with a single battery. so this is good for short and emergency use. search for other lights have more modes and more battery capacities for longer run time. for me, at 10.73 shipped or 9.43 if u buy 3 or more, is def worth the money.
btw im not a sales for this light, just happened to be looking for one a few days back and bought a few of these.
torpid
Senior Member
posted: Nov. 21, 2009 @ 7:14p
Looks like they are 3x Cree P4 flaslights. They are a bit bulky for my taste. Decent deal, though I personally would rather have an MC-E flashlight that operates on a much smaller footprint for around that price.
sfhondapilot
Cranky Member
posted: Nov. 21, 2009 @ 7:33p
I have been pleased with the CREE LEDs. We installed their LR-6 bulbs and really like their performance.
gatsu
Senior Member
posted: Nov. 21, 2009 @ 8:51p
Here's the CPF link on these FLs when they had the same sale over the summer: Life+Gear.
Forgot to add I was thinking of getting a set but the C batteries turned me away. I believe someone said we could use those C batt. adapters but, obviously, the performance would suffer.
gatsu said: Here's the CPF link on these FLs when they had the same sale over the summer: Life+Gear.
Forgot to add I was thinking of getting a set but the C batteries turned me away. I believe someone said we could use those C batt. adapters but, obviously, the performance would suffer.
Battery life can be less but the voltage of a comparable AA & C battery is the same (1.5 volt for an alky, 1.2 volt for NimH). In fact, some rechargeable C batteries are 2500mah, so it's just an AA battery in a C case anyway.
Because I have many AA rechargeable and several adapters, I just use the AAs in C-powered items. If you do not have an adapter, you can use a piece of pipe to center the AA battery since they are the same length of a C battery.
gatsu said: Here's the CPF link on these FLs when they had the same sale over the summer: Life+Gear.
Forgot to add I was thinking of getting a set but the C batteries turned me away. I believe someone said we could use those C batt. adapters but, obviously, the performance would suffer.
Performance won't suffer- runtime will.
I charge my C NiMH batteries in my Lacrosse with a dowel rod, some soldered 14 gauge wire, and a little C battery holder from RadioShack. Charge 2x at 1500ma, then put them back in if they don't finish.
bage1978 said: coolbreeze said: bage1978 said: these r good to keep in ur house and garage. but id rather use a ultrafire cree that uses 1aa to keep in my car and pocket. those costs about 10 shipped from china. search it on dealextereme. the ultrafire wont reach 10hour run time for sure. Which one is it?
but please note this is single mode and can run about 45min with a single battery. so this is good for short and emergency use. search for other lights have more modes and more battery capacities for longer run time. for me, at 10.73 shipped or 9.43 if u buy 3 or more, is def worth the money.
btw im not a sales for this light, just happened to be looking for one a few days back and bought a few of these.
Thanks for posting this. I just ordered 5 of these little guys for about $48 shipped. I think they'll make awesome stocking stuffers for my friends.
bearsloft said: bage1978 said: coolbreeze said: bage1978 said: these r good to keep in ur house and garage. but id rather use a ultrafire cree that uses 1aa to keep in my car and pocket. those costs about 10 shipped from china. search it on dealextereme. the ultrafire wont reach 10hour run time for sure. Which one is it?
but please note this is single mode and can run about 45min with a single battery. so this is good for short and emergency use. search for other lights have more modes and more battery capacities for longer run time. for me, at 10.73 shipped or 9.43 if u buy 3 or more, is def worth the money.
btw im not a sales for this light, just happened to be looking for one a few days back and bought a few of these.
Thanks for posting this. I just ordered 5 of these little guys for about $48 shipped. I think they'll make awesome stocking stuffers for my friends.
Bearhas the quality of the flashlights from DealExtreme and other overseas discounters improved? i bought a few led flashlights from them in the past and had some come DOA or they failed shortly afterwards. based on experience i will not order the "no name" led flashlights no matter how cheap or bright they are. in an emergency you want a flashlight you can depend on.
fwiw, i have a few friends who had their streamlights fail because they left them in their cars and the extreme heat caused the batteries to leak and ruin their flashlights.
fwiw, i have a few friends who had their streamlights fail because they left them in their cars and the extreme heat caused the batteries to leak and ruin their flashlights.
Actually, the Streamlights did not "fail", they were damaged by cheap batteries.
fwiw, i have a few friends who had their streamlights fail because they left them in their cars and the extreme heat caused the batteries to leak and ruin their flashlights.
Actually, the Streamlights did not "fail", they were damaged by cheap batteries.you are correct that the batteries caused the failure. the batteries were either duracell or eveready alkalines, whatever brand the flashlights came with.
it may be a good idea to use lsd nimh battereis instead of alkalines in our more expensive flashlights. here's a link to a CPF article discusing leaky alkaline batteries. link
Scaredwitless
Tired Member
posted: Nov. 22, 2009 @ 7:07p
So what do you guys recommend in way of batteries for extreme temp situations such as being left in a car? I hear investing into LSD NiMHs are the optimal way to go, but I'm finding it hard to go in that direction, as getting the proper C sized ones takes a bit of investment (The batteries themselves, plus a C cell battery charger...)
Do they make lithium batteries in the C size?
So far I'm leaning towards the AA LSD in C adapters solution, but I'm wondering if the reduced runtime and more frequent charging is going to end up being a headache in the long run.
What do you guys think of the 210 lumen 2 pack Life+gears Costco also sells for $49.99? hwew is the 360 one overall a better value?
purduephotog said: OK, so they're probably using XR-E chips, 3x, at 400ma each. That means about 1.2A draw on the batteries , depending on how they're wired and if it's a buck or boost config.
At full brightness the 10 hour run time can't be right- a NiMH rechargeable tops in at 5000ma (best), typical is 3000ma, and then you're looking at voltage sag.
I'd say about 3 hours, tops, at full brightness and probably closer to 2.
HOWEVER- I do have some homemade 600+ lumen lights (running 3x 1A drivers) drawing from 4x AAs (overheat) and don't leave them on for more than 5 minutes or the heatsink gets too hot- and they're pretty damn bright.
I'd say this is a great purchase for stuffing in stockings. I could check it out on Candlepower forums but I just don't have the energy.
man, i love you hardcore torch folks. it just shows there is a niche audience for virtually anything in this world. it blows my mind!
negentropy
Member
posted: Nov. 22, 2009 @ 11:32p
I have ordered from DealExtreme and the flashlights seem good for price. All worked so far... The only thing is shipping time, if you want for Christmas too late to be safe. 1st part of order shipped about 34 days after placed order (9/21/09), and still waiting for rest.
I did order from shiningbeam.com also and got good lights and quick shipping. They are located in New York.
claymoh
Broke Member
posted: Nov. 22, 2009 @ 11:37p
I have these flashlights, they were on sale 6 months or so ago at Costco. They are a normal full size (think 3 C's back to back) flashlight, and they are awesome. Very bright and a nice wide beam. The smaller flashlights are also bright, but feel very point source at times.
Scaredwitless
Tired Member
posted: Nov. 23, 2009 @ 12:03a
On the Deal Extreme lights discussion, I found this candles power thread helpful: here It actually helped me in part to see that these costco lights are a good deal for what they are. But I think if they are more beast than you need, then go with the cheap good lights at DX mentioned in that thread.
hereford
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Nov. 23, 2009 @ 12:07a
Hey, Cree is made near me. Great products and no, I am not an employee nor a poet!
C & D batts always make me weary. So much more difficult to find good C/D rechargeables (I'm talking real C/D sizes, not the repackaged AA ones that have ~2500mAh capacity). Even harder to find LSD in C/D sizes. Anyone recommend a good LSD C/D batt? I suppose I could use those silly AA-C adapters but that kinda defeats the purpose. No C/D LSD rechargeables makes it a dealbreaker for me :-/
Scaredwitless
Tired Member
posted: Nov. 23, 2009 @ 1:00a
peas said: C & D batts always make me weary. So much more difficult to find good C/D rechargeables (I'm talking real C/D sizes, not the repackaged AA ones that have ~2500mAh capacity). Even harder to find LSD in C/D sizes. Anyone recommend a good LSD C/D batt? I suppose I could use those silly AA-C adapters but that kinda defeats the purpose. No C/D LSD rechargeables makes it a dealbreaker for me :-/
these are the ones I keep seeing recommended in various flashlight threads (I've been doing a lot of research, lol) C cell as well D cell.
peas said: C & D batts always make me weary. So much more difficult to find good C/D rechargeables (I'm talking real C/D sizes, not the repackaged AA ones that have ~2500mAh capacity). Even harder to find LSD in C/D sizes. Anyone recommend a good LSD C/D batt? I suppose I could use those silly AA-C adapters but that kinda defeats the purpose. No C/D LSD rechargeables makes it a dealbreaker for me :-/
I use the "silly" AA to C adapters. They are cheap and I don't have the hassle of multiple size batteries. AA LSD have 2000mAh capacity compared to the 4500mAh capacity for the LSD C cells that Scaredwitless linked. For a little over twice the capacity, the price is $14.99 for two and you'll have to get a charger that does C cells. Why not just buy your LSD AA on sale and get a few AA to C adapters for $1.65 a pair?
bage1978 said: coolbreeze said: bage1978 said: these r good to keep in ur house and garage. but id rather use a ultrafire cree that uses 1aa to keep in my car and pocket. those costs about 10 shipped from china. search it on dealextereme. the ultrafire wont reach 10hour run time for sure. Which one is it?
but please note this is single mode and can run about 45min with a single battery. so this is good for short and emergency use. search for other lights have more modes and more battery capacities for longer run time. for me, at 10.73 shipped or 9.43 if u buy 3 or more, is def worth the money.
btw im not a sales for this light, just happened to be looking for one a few days back and bought a few of these.
I have this one from DX. The damn thing keeps having bad connections, so I had to keep tapping the flashlight to keep the light on steady. I tried taking it apart to see if there are and loose fitting areas and tighten them up. No help. Know of any way to keep it from doing that?
Mong said: hakujin said: man, i love you hardcore torch folks. it just shows there is a niche audience for virtually anything in this world. it blows my mind!
coolT said: I use the "silly" AA to C adapters. They are cheap and I don't have the hassle of multiple size batteries. AA LSD have 2000mAh capacity compared to the 4500mAh capacity for the LSD C cells that Scaredwitless linked. For a little over twice the capacity, the price is $14.99 for two and you'll have to get a charger that does C cells. Why not just buy your LSD AA on sale and get a few AA to C adapters for $1.65 a pair?Hrmm.. maybe because true C rechargeables have 2x the capacity? True that the value isn't there due to price of C's. Hopefully they'll come down in price soon.
Really it all depends on your needs. If ~2000mAh is enough for you, be happy with the adapters. But for someone who needs longer runtime on the flashlights (without fumbling in the dark to change cells), the true C's are the only way to go.
Didn't know LE officers still used bulky C/D cell flashlights. My $10 DX Cree-XRE (AAAx3) has lasted over 6 months on some advanced lithium batts and I use it a lot. Compared to a buddy's flashlights, that he bought after I bough mine, for $30-$50, mine is still brighter and has better throw.
Go with an HID flashlight if you are looking to spend $80...you'll be happier.
peas said: coolT said: I use the "silly" AA to C adapters. They are cheap and I don't have the hassle of multiple size batteries. AA LSD have 2000mAh capacity compared to the 4500mAh capacity for the LSD C cells that Scaredwitless linked. For a little over twice the capacity, the price is $14.99 for two and you'll have to get a charger that does C cells. Why not just buy your LSD AA on sale and get a few AA to C adapters for $1.65 a pair?Hrmm.. maybe because true C rechargeables have 2x the capacity? True that the value isn't there due to price of C's. Hopefully they'll come down in price soon.
Really it all depends on your needs. If ~2000mAh is enough for you, be happy with the adapters. But for someone who needs longer runtime on the flashlights (without fumbling in the dark to change cells), the true C's are the only way to go.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have 4 C LSD and a charger, but I don't want to layout $30 for them and $45 for the charger. You'll get over twice the runtime but at the cost of $15 for four AA eneloops and two pair of converters, I'll live with less runtime. Others may need/want the extra capacity but the adapters are a viable alternative.
LEOs like the "bulky" C & D lights not only because they toss a good beam, but also because they make a good weapon. Too good for some departments, Los Angeles PD even restricts their use.
You can charge C & D cells with the LaCrosse charger, cut a small wooden dowel to the length an AA cell, place a tack on both ends, run a length of wire from each tack to a C or D cell battery holder (Radio Shack), and you're set. Haven't done this myself, understand that sometimes you need to charge them twice to get them fully topped off.
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