As stated in title - up to 40% off. I configured mine with the following:
Core i7 860 8GB DDR3 1TB/7200/16MB ATI HD 5770 24" ST2410 Monitor Windows 7 Home Premium Normal configuration: $1,766 XPS 8100 savings: $397 + $119.60 = $516.60 Subtotal: $1,249.40 + s/h + tax (3 day = $18, tax = $79 to IL) Minus 5% BCB ($62.47) Total shipped: $1,284
I do build systems on my own and was looking to assemble a comparable desktop via Newegg deals and am a firm believer in building custom-spec'd PCs for less than pre-built systems, but this really is cheaper than ordering all the parts separately via Newegg.
EDIT: I just realized there's 5% BCB = $62.45 off my build price!
Yeah it does suck if you already have a monitor, but thankfully I have nothing but an empty desk
Lexxon87
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posted: Mar. 15, 2010 @ 1:31p
Monitor hurts and Tax is a KILLER at $78.90 in MA. I'll probably remain vigilant and stick with my Dell parts with a Q6600 and 8800GT, but move them out of the crappy MicroATX case they're in...once I stop being lazy...
Davesilly
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posted: Mar. 15, 2010 @ 1:35p
This is a very fast system other than the fact that it's bottlenecked by the substandard power supply. It will not allow for the Radeon 58xx series of cards or presumably the next generation nvidia cards either. However, if you are OK with that one (large) downside, this is a good deal.
EDIT: I just researched it a bit and it turns out you can upgrade the power supply yourself because Dell uses standard ATX PSUs. So if you are willing to do that, this is a very good deal.
I am in Elk Grove Area. I am willing to take the monitor for anyone who doesn't want that 20" or a 24". PM to negotiate. Unfortunately, I am building the i7 950 computer already or else I might have jumped on this deal. It is a good deal for the computer setup.
Wow Dell actually gives you a non-proprietary board to upgrade the PSU??? That was one worry I had about ordering this, since Dell is notorious for making things as difficult as possible to upgrade/replace main components.
Davesilly
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posted: Mar. 15, 2010 @ 2:15p
Apparently Dell no longer uses proprietary power supplies:
Check Z06psi's post halfway down that page. His sig states a 550 watt PSU and Radeon 5870 running in his XPS 8100.
I know from my own ownership of a Dell XPS 630i that it is fully upgradable, from the PSU to the entire motherboard. That gets Dell a lot of points in my book.
Davesilly said: This is a very fast system other than the fact that it's bottlenecked by the substandard power supply. It will not allow for the Radeon 58xx series of cards or presumably the next generation nvidia cards either. However, if you are OK with that one (large) downside, this is a good deal.
Agreed. With Dell I've found it's always the unadvertised specials that are the best deals. For the money, I believe the XPS 9000 sitting right next to the advertised special is more computer for the money. See here:
dg12345 said: Davesilly said: This is a very fast system other than the fact that it's bottlenecked by the substandard power supply. It will not allow for the Radeon 58xx series of cards or presumably the next generation nvidia cards either. However, if you are OK with that one (large) downside, this is a good deal.
Agreed. With Dell I've found it's always the unadvertised specials that are the best deals. For the money, I believe the XPS 9000 sitting right next to the advertised special is more computer for the money. See here:
Spec'ing out with the same exact specs, the 9000 is $150+ more than the 8000. Additionally, the 860 > 920, see here: i7 860 vs i7 920
ktarson said: dg12345 said: Davesilly said: This is a very fast system other than the fact that it's bottlenecked by the substandard power supply. It will not allow for the Radeon 58xx series of cards or presumably the next generation nvidia cards either. However, if you are OK with that one (large) downside, this is a good deal.
Agreed. With Dell I've found it's always the unadvertised specials that are the best deals. For the money, I believe the XPS 9000 sitting right next to the advertised special is more computer for the money. See here:
Spec'ing out with the same exact specs, the 9000 is $150+ more than the 8000. Additionally, the 860 > 920, see here: i7 860 vs i7 920
It's more than just comparing processors, it's comparing systems and all their components. While I don't know for certain, I assume the XPS 9000 contains an X58 board vs the the 1156 they are most likely using in the 860 system. While I do agree the 860 and 920 processors are vaguely similar in speed, take a look at this list of fastest systems from Passmark.
The 9000 does have better components (and yes it does have the X58 since it's LGA1366), and yes has the potential to be far more powerful... But not for the money considering today's deal on the 8000.
Can you guys give me your thoughts between these three. which one should I buy.
1. is the Dell on this forum. 2. Gateway SX2800-07 Core 2 Quad Q8300(2.50GHz) 4GB DDR3 640GB Intel GMA X4500HD Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Retail: 489 3.Gateway DX4831-05 Intel Core i5 650(3.20GHz) 8GB DDR3 1TB NVIDIA GeForce G310 Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit - Retail $789
Davesilly
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posted: Mar. 15, 2010 @ 4:24p
howwlovey said: Can you guys give me your thoughts between these three. which one should I buy.
1. is the Dell on this forum. 2. Gateway SX2800-07 Core 2 Quad Q8300(2.50GHz) 4GB DDR3 640GB Intel GMA X4500HD Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Retail: 489 3.Gateway DX4831-05 Intel Core i5 650(3.20GHz) 8GB DDR3 1TB NVIDIA GeForce G310 Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit - Retail $789
Howlovey, it really depends on what your intended use is: if you want a system that's close to top of the line, buy the one on this forum. Gateway #1 has a several year old processor and no discrete video card---so little-to-no 3d gaming. The second Gateway has a very fast dual-core, current generation processor but a substandard video card. On the other hand, it's substantially less money.
If I were you, and I wanted an all-in system with a monitor for a good value, I would pick the system listed at the top of this thread. It will do virtually everything you want it to do, including playing 3d games at a very high level (although not the highest level) and it is very inexpensive. On the other hand, if 3d games are not your thing, I would buy option #3.
Thanks Davesilly for the fast response, Yea i don't need the computer for gaming since i do most of gaming on PS3 or Xbox and only game I would play on the PC would be flight simulator Delux. Can you give me your thought on this one compare the previous posted please.
Dell has had way better deals than this one. This is warm at best. Sell the monitor and Nvidia card and you get ~$260 back, putting it at about $1000. We got an XPS9000 with I7-920, Windows 7 64bit Premium, and 3 gigs of Ram for about $600 around Christmas. This really isn't a deal too far off "normal price" for Dell.
And the XPS9000 with the I7-920 is ridiculously fast.
gaijin4life said: Dell has had way better deals than this one. This is warm at best. Sell the monitor and Nvidia card and you get ~$260 back, putting it at about $1000. We got an XPS9000 with I7-920, Windows 7 64bit Premium, and 3 gigs of Ram for about $600 around Christmas. This really isn't a deal too far off "normal price" for Dell.
And the XPS9000 with the I7-920 is ridiculously fast.
1.) 8GB > 3GB 2.) 860 > 920 in many/most cases 3.) What monitor, graphics card, and hard drive did the 9000 come with?
Original deal is $899 for the i5/20"/8GB/1TB (+ 5% BCB), but for $300 the upgrades listed in the specs I wrote on original post, it's definitely worth it.
Intel® Core™ i7-860 processor(8MB Cache, 2.80GHz) edit OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64Bit, English edit WARRANTY AND SERVICE 2 Year Basic Service Plan edit MEMORY 8GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz - 4 DIMMs edit MONITOR 24.0" Dell ST2410 Full HD Monitor with VGA cable edit VIDEO CARD ATI Radeon HD 5450 1GB DDR3 edit HARD DRIVE 1TB - 7200RPM, SATA 3.0Gb/s, 16MB Cache edit OPTICAL DRIVE 16X DVD+/-RW Drive edit SPEAKERS No speakers (Speakers are required to hear audio from your system) edit KEYBOARD Dell Studio Consumer Multimedia Keyboard edit MOUSE Dell Studio Optical Mouse
$1,636.00 Estimated Delivery Date
Sub Total $1,636.00
Total Discounts -$456.60 Sub Total $1,179.40 Shipping & Handling $29.00 Shipping Discount -$16.05 Tax 1 $102.84 State Environmental Fee More Info -- Total 2 $1,295.19
ktarson said: 1.) 8GB > 3GB 2.) 860 > 920 in many/most cases 3.) What monitor, graphics card, and hard drive did the 9000 come with?
1. That doesn't account for a $400 different in price after the monitor and video card are out. It also doesn't account for the at least $200 spread from the 860 to the 920, so the difference is closer to $600, after monitor and graphics card. 2. Depends on the setup. That test was with an older 1156 motherboard. The XPS9000 has the X58 setup, which is faster. Do you have the 8100 I7-860 already? I'll put it up against the XPS9000 I7-920 we have using passmark. The 8100 will lose. Also, the I7-920 is worth at least a couple hundred more than an I7-860. 3. Doesn't matter, I stripped the monitor and card out of the comparison so it was fair.
Isn't triple channel ram faster than dual channel? Wouldn't that translate to higher benchmark? I wouldn't benchmark the CPU alone because that is not the deciding factor toward the overal performace of the system. Even if it is true that 860 > 920, but the overal benchmark for the 920 systems are faster. Prove me wrong guys. Computer the same system with the same amount of ram and overclock the 920 to the same speed of the 860 (@ 2.8ghz) and see the overall performance benchmarks. The XP9000 series is using dual channels, which limits its potential. Personally, I wouldn't pay $150 more for it unless it have at least a triple channel 6 mbs PC3-10666.
Back to the deal, this is a good deal because RIGHT NOW isn't a holiday or a black friday deal. RIGHT NOW this is a good price for the setup compared to any new system out there with the same components. It isn't fair to compare today's price vs black friday. However, your "definition" of a deals may be different from mine.
I have been tracking prices on this computer system for the last month. This is pretty much Dell's normal price. It was slightly cheaper a few weeks ago (around $50). Dell seems to play a game of lowering prices for certain parts of the computer while making certain the total system cost is within $100 of normal price.
alhluu said: Isn't triple channel ram faster than dual channel? Wouldn't that translate to higher benchmark? I wouldn't benchmark the CPU alone because that is not the deciding factor toward the overal performace of the system. Even if it is true that 860 > 920, but the overal benchmark for the 920 systems are faster. Prove me wrong guys. Computer the same system with the same amount of ram and overclock the 920 to the same speed of the 860 (@ 2.8ghz) and see the overall performance benchmarks. The XP9000 series is using dual channels, which limits its potential. Personally, I wouldn't pay $150 more for it unless it have at least a triple channel 6 mbs PC3-10666.
It appears that the 860 has slightly better performance thatn the 920 in almost all of the benchmarks, so it appears that the triple chanel ram doesn't really provide much of a performance boost. And I am not going to compare an overclocked 920 versus a stock 860 that's just stupid. First of all do the Dell Motherboards even let you overclock? Most users are not going to overclock their cpu's and if they are, they are going to overclock the 860 as well as the 920.
Thanks for the info ironfist and I agree with your sentiments. I paired an 860 with an HD 8500 and it chewed through Arkham Asylum and Dirt2 at the highest settings (sorry, no Crysis). I'm sure the 920 will do the same. Whether its an 860 or 920 you're going to be quite happy with either purchase. I suggested the XPS 9000 only because it appeared to have some upgradeability whereas the 8100 system is maxed out.
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