Just jumped on this. I recently bought a DA2400ES from Crutchfield Signature for $200 more. I was not planning on using the extended no-risk audition period, but I just cannot pass this up. Sorry Crutchfield. Thanks OP.
Not sure if you can really consider this a high-end receiver if it cannot power high-end speakers like those by Martin Logan which require impedance of 4 ohms.
I'm sure lots of people could, but without knowing more about your needs, it would be difficult. And you did imply that you didn't have the money for this, so it seems the question is strictly academic anyway.
If you're actually interested in researching this further, I'd suggest starting at avsforum.com.
This site IMHO contains the best reviews about Hi-end AV electronics: http://www.hometheaterhifi.com It is (or was in the past) non-commercial, so the review are top-notch. They used to review only ultra-high-end gear, but now are more down to earth. If I hadn't gotten Yamaha RX-V3900 for $675, I would be all over it. Sony ES-components fair very well against high-end gear.
Oh and don't worry about HDMI 1.4. You'll be able to come up with a way to split the signal so the display has HDMI 1.4 compatibility for 3D and the receiver will still get the loss less audio tracks.
hhatch
Thrifty Member
posted: Mar. 19, 2010 @ 8:54a
I beleive the front channels are 4 ohm selectable on the ES models. They are on my 2400ES.
accprof1 said: Not sure if you can really consider this a high-end receiver if it cannot power high-end speakers like those by Martin Logan which require impedance of 4 ohms.
If you're buying Martin Logan speakers, you have no business buying a Sony receiver, IMHO.
Sony receivers are a joke, and that includes the ES line. Sony has decided to not even try any more. Their receiver claimed vs actual power output is a laughing stock within the industry. Here's STR-DA5400ES's measurements:
HardwareLust said: accprof1 said: Not sure if you can really consider this a high-end receiver if it cannot power high-end speakers like those by Martin Logan which require impedance of 4 ohms.
If you're buying Martin Logan speakers, you have no business buying a Sony receiver, IMHO.I'd disagree with that. It's foolish to say that expensive speakers must be driven with expensive amplifiers. There are plenty of technically competent receivers that cost in the hundreds that do not introduce audible coloration or distortion into the signal path. Of course if you are buying expensive amplifiers because they are colorful and distorted (tube amps, for example), then that's a different story altogether.
accprof1 said: Not sure if you can really consider this a high-end receiver if it cannot power high-end speakers like those by Martin Logan which require impedance of 4 ohms. If you are mentioning ML speakers, why are you even looking at this? also, not all of their speakers are 4ohm.
MaxRC said: Sony receivers are a joke, and that includes the ES line. Sony has decided to not even try any more. Their receiver claimed vs actual power output is a laughing stock within the industry. Here's STR-DA5400ES's measurements:
That's just sad. Do yourself a favor and get a Pioneer/Denon/Onkyo, or even a Yamaha.
There are an awful lot of opinionated douchebags out there in the audio world. Their opinions are almost completely meaningless, because sound is 100% subjective. Watching these people wank over the quality of cables and other devices is comical at best.
Sony bashing is on the same level as Bose bashing. Almost none of the people who bash these two companies have ever owned one of their products, and only do it to sound "cool" to the other "audiophiles".
Do yourself a favor, and if you're curious about how something sounds, buy it and listen to it (there's a concept for you) and then make your choice. Don't let some douchebag "audiophiles" control how you think.
MaxRC said: HardwareLust said: accprof1 said: Not sure if you can really consider this a high-end receiver if it cannot power high-end speakers like those by Martin Logan which require impedance of 4 ohms.
If you're buying Martin Logan speakers, you have no business buying a Sony receiver, IMHO.I'd disagree with that. It's foolish to say that expensive speakers must be driven with expensive amplifiers. There are plenty of technically competent receivers that cost in the hundreds that do not introduce audible coloration or distortion into the signal path. Of course if you are buying expensive amplifiers because they are colorful and distorted (tube amps, for example), then that's a different story altogether.
Count me in this group, I have a set of high end KEF Reference 4 ohm speakers (Fronts and rears) used in my HT setup and I drive them with a top of the line Yamaha receiver (Used to use Denon). Todays A/V receivers are built to very high levels capable of handling 4 ohm speakers such as these which are punishing for a low priced amp.
Sony ES used to have some nice stuff. The specs posted for driving multiple channels is pretty low compared to Yamaha or Denon. But I have not listened to this receiver so I won't pass judgement.
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