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loggia
- Senior Member - 4K
posted: Nov. 20, 2002 @ 1:46p
Registered on FatWallet one week ago and is now writing pro-DMCA posts? Definitely a troll. |
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seaninsjca
- Member
posted: Nov. 20, 2002 @ 1:46p
Don't be so hard on Susanna, she's probably one of those "Special" greeters that they hire to stand at their door to make a quota. She obviously doesn't know any better, and laugh it off because we have all probably saved more in the last month on Fat Wallet than she has earned working at Wally World. |
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Milkyman
- Member
posted: Nov. 20, 2002 @ 1:46p
coreynyc said:
<< Just a thought....
Worst Buy, Circuit Town, Office Min, GMart, Toys Are We, Farget, Comp America, Wal Fart, Homo Depot, Cold Gravy, The Crap, Lola Falana Republic, J. Blew, (John Wayne) Gacy's, Shroomingdale's, etc.
I am completely serious, BTW. >> Even if you are completely serious, i found that completely hilarious. |
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JWong
- Ancient Member
posted: Nov. 20, 2002 @ 1:49p
There must be something wrong with my logical processes...
Somehow it just doesn't compute that bringing hordes of customers to Wal-Mart somehow makes them earn less money... but I guess if I was a Wal-Mart klerck I might understand.
The best Black Friday deals are loss leaders to get people in the store, and there's only a limited quantity. The store expects to sell that quantity and benefit from all the people in the store who will buy other things. Where does the losing money come in? |
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MichaelJames
- Member
posted: Nov. 20, 2002 @ 1:50p
Anyways...I just sent emails to all 4 stating that I won't be spending any money in their stores this holiday season and will be buying online from other retailers. Not that it'll do anything, and they'll probably just delete the emails, but what the hey, its worth trying. |
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flasailboarder
- Senior Member
posted: Nov. 20, 2002 @ 1:54p
was wondering how the server was going to handle the /. effect ....lol Slashdot site
Article at Slashdot Edit by Moderator: Just fine! Thank goodness for the new db server! (it topped out at about 25% of capacity at the peak) |
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ksquare
- Senior Member
posted: Nov. 20, 2002 @ 1:55p
Posting WalMart sales prices increase in-store sales, which helps guarantee you have a job! It has been REPEATEDLY shown by those same marketing research results you quote, that "loss-leader sales" improve in-store sales and profits. Otherwise, what corporate entity in their right mind, would continue any marketing practice that reduces profit? Take a basic course in economy before you come here whining about your work-ethic ("..., makes my job harder,... " ! If you truly believe that "sale prices" impacts your salary, then you should be complaining to WalMart Corporate. If anything, WalMart's "Slashing Prices" program has resulted in their declining revenue. Wall Street tends to react more harshly to movements in revenue (eg. declining revenues), than it does to movements in after-tax profits. Additionally, WalMart has begun sliding-down the same failed road that KMart has, you can only go so cheap, before what you're buying becomes cheap (ie. poor quality, high failure rates, poor performance) because you only buy junk once. I'm tired of having to return an item three and four times, only to finally return an item for refund because the cheap-crap keeps breaking!
Susanna said:
<< SERVES YOU RIGHT
[deleted trivial stupidity]. This is an INFORMATION ECONOMY and you are POISONING THE INFORMATION.
Did you think The Law wouldn't catch up with you? The Digital Millenium Copyright Act is a new law designed to catch a new kind of thief, and you people just hit it like a brick wall. Whine all you want; as a Wal-Mart klerck, I personally wish the DMCA would give the FBI first-strike capability to put you people in jail. Posting Wal-Mart sale prices early causes masses of people to descend on my store out of the blue, makes my job harder, and causes Wal-Marts profit margin to shrink, which impacts my salary. I have children to feed.
I have no tolerance for you people at all. >>
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thedealdude
- Tired Member
posted: Nov. 20, 2002 @ 1:57p
The stupid thing is that this is going to bring more people to fatwallet who will rape these stores later during the year..congratulations knucklehead lawyers - you have succeeded in not only getting this list distributed across the Web, you are bringing in more people to fatwallet..you dumb idiots
"The more solar systems that will slip through your fingers..." |
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bossplaya
- Member
posted: Nov. 20, 2002 @ 1:58p
Susanna said:
<< SERVES YOU RIGHT [CUT]... Posting Wal-Mart sale prices early causes masses of people to descend on my store out of the blue, makes my job harder, and causes Wal-Marts profit margin to shrink, which impacts my salary. I have children to feed.
I have no tolerance for you people at all. >> Having masses of people shop at "your" store is bad? Isn't that the function of the store, to sell items to customers. One would think that having masses of customers, eagerly wanting to purchase an item, would be good for business. Am I missing something? I'm sure Wal-Mart or any other large chain store isn't losing out on money from this small niche of the purchasing public. I don't know many people who even know what a fatwallet is. |
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w3b
- Senior Member
posted: Nov. 20, 2002 @ 2:01p
With the lack of actual deals this year they intend to get more impulse buyers into their store, instead of informed buyers. How do you get informed buyers into the store when there's no deal? |
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jcrash
- Senior Member
posted: Nov. 20, 2002 @ 2:05p
<< Target is the biggest POS store there is. First they say they won't give you full refunds even if you have a receipt. Then they stop pricematching. Now they do this. Just because Target has lost customers due to their crap stores, crap products and crap ideas. >>
Dude, Target is almost the easiest place I've ever gotten a refund. It took about 5 seconds for my refund there. Lowe's is the only place better. Lowe's will even take back stuff you bought somewhere else! |
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JDMnAR
- Senior Member
posted: Nov. 20, 2002 @ 2:05p
Kthak said:
<< What you don't understand is that most of these companies have "Price Guaranties" so that if you buy something for $200 and it goes on sale anytime within the next 30 days you can go and show your receipt to get your money back. >> Oh no, I understand that very well (and you might want to check before you bank on 30 days - many merchants have changed their price guarantee to 14 days). However, for every one person that actually takes their receipt in to the store to get the price difference refunded, I would be willing to bet that there are many more who don't because a) they don't have their receipt, b) they don't watch the pricing on the item after they have already purchased it or c) they just don't think it is worth the effort. Besides, if you are talking about something on a potentially huge scale like Black Friday, many merchants would probably gladly refund the difference to you after accruing a couple of weeks worth of interest on it. Hypothetically, lets say WalMart sells 100,000 of those 27" TVs nationwide today at $225 ($22.5 million) and puts it in the bank. Now fast forward two weeks and of those 100,000 units, 50,000 of them come back in for a price match to $150. We are now talking about 50,000 x ($225-$150) or $3.75 million that WalMart had to play with and accrue interest on for two weeks. Sign me up for some of that action - sounds like free money to me. |
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ionizer
- Senior Member - 6K
posted: Nov. 20, 2002 @ 2:07p
Why I feel this does not qualify under the DMCA:
Firstly, if the ads themselves were scanned and downloaded, than I think they would have a case.
However, people seeing an ad and then merely relaying that information to others via any means is not illegal, nor does the DMCA really go against one's ability to do that. (No I am not an expert on the intricacies of it, though I have read about it).
I mean where do you draw the line from the following
OBVIOUS DMCA "VIOLATION" (or contestable) ^ |(1) Scanning the ad and redistributing it | (2) Stating word for word what's in the ad | (3) Summarizing the ad | (4) Stating to someone else that you think Store X is going to have product Y for price Z | (5) Stating an opinion that "I think Store X might have product Y for around price Z"
JUST YOUR AVERAGE TALKING between people
I mean, personally I think you can't stop someone for stating word for word what's in an ad. That's just not allowing someone to have freedom of speech. Cuz I'll go publish a book that will come out in 2099 and put every common sentence ever used and then claim everyone is violating the DMCA when they say it online. |
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lurking4deals
- Senior Member
posted: Nov. 20, 2002 @ 2:09p
if a company such as WalMart are losing money by selling products below cost, maybe they shouldn't offer it at that price. it's their tactic to lure consumers in with these low prices and pray that they pick up other stuff that they might need. how are we at fault for taking advantage of that. Sites like FW serves as a means to get the word out on these sales, it's quicker more efficient than any newspaper, tv ads. why would anyone b1tch about more costumer coming into the store? make your job harder? wth?! maybe you should get another job if you can't handle it. some people.
I love FW. I'm a poor student like many of you. and seriously, if it wasn't on sale and has a rebate, I wouldn't buy it. I don't see anything wrong with that. |
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Pato
- Senior Member - 5K
posted: Nov. 20, 2002 @ 2:10p
jcrash said:
<< Dude, Target is almost the easiest place I've ever gotten a refund. It took about 5 seconds for my refund there. Lowe's is the only place better. Lowe's will even take back stuff you bought somewhere else! >> I think that honor belongs to Costco. |
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Kindaian
- New Member
posted: Nov. 20, 2002 @ 2:10p
Why not creating a work of art with the info?
That way there are another set of laws to use against DMCA, namelly... the DMCA itself... |
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XFreebie
- Senior Member - 2K
posted: Nov. 20, 2002 @ 2:11p
they own the copyrights on numbers, digits and the $ dollar sign, but combing the three elements they make unique prices!! |
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Zclyh3
- Senior Member - 1K
posted: Nov. 20, 2002 @ 2:13p
We should just boycott them all in general. Make their black friday into a RED friday. We should be protesting during black friday to get customers to leave. Then we'll see who gets the last laugh. |
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hevnsnt
- Charter Member
posted: Nov. 20, 2002 @ 2:16p
what cracks me up is this quote:
<< This is an INFORMATION ECONOMY >> You are correct, Thanks. Now please re-think your argument. |
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nrodgsxr
- Senior Member
posted: Nov. 20, 2002 @ 2:16p
Susanna said:
<< SERVES YOU RIGHT This is an INFORMATION ECONOMY and you are POISONING THE INFORMATION.
Did you think The Law wouldn't catch up with you? The Digital Millenium Copyright Act is a new law designed to catch a new kind of thief, and you people just hit it like a brick wall. Whine all you want; as a Wal-Mart klerck, I personally wish the DMCA would give the FBI first-strike capability to put you people in jail. Posting Wal-Mart sale prices early causes masses of people to descend on my store out of the blue, makes my job harder, and causes Wal-Marts profit margin to shrink, which impacts my salary. I have children to feed.
I have no tolerance for you people at all. >> Wow.. WalMart "klercks" are more stupid than I thought. Did you even graduate high school? You really believe that the DMCA is designed to copyright prices? You really think posting an advertisement by WalMart early is going to hurt their bottom line?
Get a clue.. |
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