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kronus said:I don't know if anyone's taking the time to read these comments anymore, but I wish everyone's vote counted the same. There's no reason I can think of that some people get 0 votes, and some get +2...
People with a rating power of 0 usually have it for a reason (they had their rating power taken away for abuse). I assume that no one will have +/-2 power soon. FW is still going to make some changes, like putting the "not interested" button back in, and I think that will be one of the changes.


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MechanicalMan said:kronus said:I don't know if anyone's taking the time to read these comments anymore, but I wish everyone's vote counted the same. There's no reason I can think of that some people get 0 votes, and some get +2...
People with a rating power of 0 usually have it for a reason (they had their rating power taken away for abuse). I assume that no one will have +/-2 power soon. FW is still going to make some changes, like putting the "not interested" button back in, and I think that will be one of the changes.
I've never abused the ratings, I probably make about 5-10 ratings a day max, some days I don't even rate anything, and a thread has to be a scam or misinformation/bad bad deal for me to rate negative, and I've never had rating "power".


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kronus said:I've never abused the ratings, I probably make about 5-10 ratings a day max, some days I don't even rate anything, and a thread has to be a scam or misinformation/bad bad deal for me to rate negative, and I've never had rating "power".
I said usually.
I'm hoping we'll all have +/-1 soon. I tried to ask a mod about it in the HD sticky. Hopefully someone will let us know soon...


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MechanicalMan said:I said usually.
I'm hoping we'll all have +/-1 soon. I tried to ask a mod about it in the HD sticky. Hopefully someone will let us know soon...
Heh, it wasn't in italics like that before so how was I supposed to see it!? jk


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couponjohn said:Whats going on with the rating system?
Last night there was nothing this morning it showed some stars , now I look and see nothing, where are we standing on this now?

Oups never mind I see were going back to the old system..

Well its about time!

Good move for us and FW!


Good move, but I am lost now, because the old ratings are gone. I can't differentiate the crappy threads from the valuable ones. I mean, for the new ones I'm able to do this job, but now even the old threads need another scrutiny, since their reds/greens are gone.


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In thinking about the rating system...is there really a need to be able to rate individual posts under a topic? Why not just the topic? If someone dislikes an individual post, have a "Hide" button there.

Just a thought. Seems like it would eliminate a lot of hard feelings.


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Sanjoelo said:In thinking about the rating system...is there really a need to be able to rate individual posts under a topic? Why not just the topic? If someone dislikes an individual post, have a "Hide" button there.

Just a thought. Seems like it would eliminate a lot of hard feelings.
Oh, there's interest in rating individual posts, believe me.
(Still looking into the "not interested" option for individual posts, though.)


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footn200 said:
(Still looking into the "not interested" option for individual posts, though.)



What about individual posters too?


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ruhroh said:What about individual posters too?I think we definitely see the value in a reputation system, the trick would be to implement one that was meaningful and wasn't a (un)popularity contest and the basis of arguments.


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nunaliorte said:ruhroh said:What about individual posters too?I think we definitely see the value in a reputation system, the trick would be to implement one that was meaningful and wasn't a (un)popularity contest and the basis of arguments.A good start might be to include the "reputation" of each member under their title when they post, this would help people decide for themselves whether or not they want to trust a member. I assume the reputation would be calculated based on the number of positive and negative ratings given to that user's posts.


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nunaliorte said:ruhroh said:What about individual posters too?I think we definitely see the value in a reputation system, the trick would be to implement one that was meaningful and wasn't a (un)popularity contest and the basis of arguments.Other sites allow users to "add" to another person's reputation, but not "subtract" from it. You get a good reputation by people "adding" to it when you post good information. The reputation is independent of a thread or individual post's +/- vote.


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jayK said:nunaliorte said:ruhroh said:What about individual posters too?I think we definitely see the value in a reputation system, the trick would be to implement one that was meaningful and wasn't a (un)popularity contest and the basis of arguments.A good start might be to include the "reputation" of each member under their title when they post, this would help people decide for themselves whether or not they want to trust a member. I assume the reputation would be calculated based on the number of positive and negative ratings given to that user's posts.jayK: when you say "that user's posts" do you mean a thread they have started as Original Poster or do you mean the individual's post/messages in reply to a thread?


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ThursdaysChild said:jayK: when you say "that user's posts" do you mean a thread they have started as Original Poster or do you mean the individual's post/messages in reply to a thread?I would think factoring in all the users' posts would be a more accurate indicator.


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footn200 said:Sanjoelo said:In thinking about the rating system...is there really a need to be able to rate individual posts under a topic? Why not just the topic? If someone dislikes an individual post, have a "Hide" button there.

Just a thought. Seems like it would eliminate a lot of hard feelings.
Oh, there's interest in rating individual posts, believe me.
(Still looking into the "not interested" option for individual posts, though.)


Interest, yes. But is there a NEED?


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ruhroh said:footn200 said:
(Still looking into the "not interested" option for individual posts, though.)

What about individual posters too?
There are forums that allow you to set up a buddylist of members so you can PM multiple members (the buddies) or to set up an "ignore" list.

Once you set up an "ignore list" the post appears as a blank with the poster's name and a button that allows you to read the post if you change your mind.

That allows forum members to ignore a poster's remarks rather than giving the poster a "red" just for being an individual whose posts you want to ignore.


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Sanjoelo said:footn200 said:Sanjoelo said:In thinking about the rating system...is there really a need to be able to rate individual posts under a topic? Why not just the topic? If someone dislikes an individual post, have a "Hide" button there.

Just a thought. Seems like it would eliminate a lot of hard feelings.
Oh, there's interest in rating individual posts, believe me.
(Still looking into the "not interested" option for individual posts, though.)


Interest, yes. But is there a NEED?
I'm telling ya... we had the exact same thought as you once, tried it, and received an uproar rivaled only by B-day and homepage redesign. It was ugly.


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I have a question about the current system... How come my votes count for little? My negging does NOTHING. e.g. I recently negged a post. Someone else gave it green. The rating was 1. Shouldn't it have been 0?


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Jayzone said:I have a question about the current system... How come my votes count for little? My negging does NOTHING. e.g. I recently negged a post. Someone else gave it green. The rating was 1. Shouldn't it have been 0?


That person might have had +2 voting power.


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Is there a good reason why the old thread ratings were wiped out and never reinstalled? I find it extremely annoying that I have to re-rate old threads or expect others to do so, if they have done so before. I can only speak for FW Finance, but you'll find that many of formerly high rated threads with a long history are now (still one month later) rated well below some newer threads, IMO for no other reason than that it would be unreasonable for everyone to revisit and rerate those threads.

If FW can restore the previous ratings of all individual posts, why can't they do this also for thread ratings? Is it a separate system that's not restorable, or were these wiped out and not restored on purpose?


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i agree completely mariojm.


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