brenticusmaximus said:I'm now convinced that the people that make these changes to fatwallet don't actually USE the fatwallet forums.have to agree with that.

wish i could give you green

So now EVERY deal is a "good" deal. It's just a matter of how good it is (1-5 stars).

That kind of system only makes sense to the the guy making money off of every referral link, for whom there really is no such thing as a "bad" deal.

Toddler said:That is a HORRIBLE idea. Maybe I am not interested in a thread, but the deal gets sweeter or I missed something initially that the community picks up on. I am never going to see that everyone else considers it a 5-star thread because I already rated it early on? That is a total disincentive for me to ever rate a thread. Once I cast my vote, I lose the ability to learn from the community! Come on, each change is just getting worse than the next.I really hope this gets an official response as it's a very valid point.

Let's say a new user posts a deal, like 42" TV for $1500 at Costco. This isn't a very hot deal, I see it, vote it a 1 and dismiss it. Later in the day, a more learned user informs people in the thread that Costco has a $750 off coupon for this certain TV. I've already rated the thread a 1, I completely miss out.

Can someone from FatWallet explain what was so horrible about the original system? In the original announcement, you said it was from abuse. How will this system be less abused than the previous one?

SUCKISSTAPLES said:brenticusmaximus said:I'm now convinced that the people that make these changes to fatwallet don't actually USE the fatwallet forums.have to agree with that.

wish i could give you green

Even SUCKISSTAPLES has his vote. If you look around just about everyone voting against the new system is senior member. These are those who have contributed to FW success so far, in no small part due to the sweet simple flagging system is why they keep going back to FW. Why do you want to kill the golden goose?

wkchan said:It is not like the site has gone down or something.Actually, it kind of feels like the site has gone down to me. Since they made the changes, the Hot Deals forum has been more trouble than it's worth for me to try and wade through the garbage and figure out what deals might be hot or not. So at least as far as usefulness is concerned, the site may as well be down.

eynt said:FatWallet.Com said:poppuh said:Stars suck, and this is why. I don't have time to scour the web for the best price for a HDTV, a silk tie, a SATA harddrive, a 9MP camera, a trampoline, etc... That is why I trusted the FW community to rate a deal accordingly with Red/Green. When there is red, you INSTANTLY know it is spam, referrals, or a horrible deal. When you saw green, you know it was maybe worth checking out. Stars stars and stars make NO sense. Ok so now instead of red, ebayers will mark a deal with one star. What's the difference? None! You tried to fix something that a majority of people didn't want fixed. Now bring it back to the old system and figure out a way to IMPROVE it, not replace it with a worse facsimile.

Also, often times a "Deal" that is weak becomes greater with coupons, price adjustments, etc... If I mark a deal "not interested" and then it improves with a price drop or something else, then I will never know about it. I for one will never use the "not interested" unless I see spam, but that was what the RED was doing for me anyways. You just complicated things unecessarily.

My probably worthless $.02 that will fall on deaf ears/eyes.

we're not looking for perfection tonight - we're looking at "better" thanks for your $.02... the popularity issue is a bigger question.

Tim

I still don't get it, if your looking for "better," why not just change it back to the old system like 90% of the community requested? Instead you guys just masking the boost system with 5 stars. Wouldn't it have just saved a lot of time, and still can save even more time if you guys let us vote to go back to red and green?

P.S. keep the not interested tab but improve on that also by giving you options to have it reappear if its 4stars with 20+ votes etc...


i think thats a great idea with the not interested..... once it goes to above a certain rating, it'll re-show up. Hey, ill buy that vacuum for $5.00 if its worth 500$

FatWallet.Com said:poppuh said:Stars suck, and this is why. I don't have time to scour the web for the best price for a HDTV, a silk tie, a SATA harddrive, a 9MP camera, a trampoline, etc... That is why I trusted the FW community to rate a deal accordingly with Red/Green. When there is red, you INSTANTLY know it is spam, referrals, or a horrible deal. When you saw green, you know it was maybe worth checking out. Stars stars and stars make NO sense. Ok so now instead of red, ebayers will mark a deal with one star. What's the difference? None! You tried to fix something that a majority of people didn't want fixed. Now bring it back to the old system and figure out a way to IMPROVE it, not replace it with a worse facsimile.

Also, often times a "Deal" that is weak becomes greater with coupons, price adjustments, etc... If I mark a deal "not interested" and then it improves with a price drop or something else, then I will never know about it. I for one will never use the "not interested" unless I see spam, but that was what the RED was doing for me anyways. You just complicated things unecessarily.

My probably worthless $.02 that will fall on deaf ears/eyes.

we're not looking for perfection tonight - we're looking at "better" thanks for your $.02... the popularity issue is a bigger question.

Tim

Although, I am for old rating system, If this new system needs to be more effective, I would recommend to introduce a new functionality in members profile that allows user to select what is a minimum acceptable level of rating for a deals that can be displayed in deal section.

e.g. If I setup my preference to show me only deals with rating of 3 or higher.Even if the rating of the deal changes from 1 to 4 , I will be able to see the deal. If rating remains 1 star, it will never show up in my deal section.

I can't judge the cost/time involved but it seems more viable solution to address some of the issues involved with the new rating system.

rizzleness said:Think of the star system from a newbie point of view. They wont know/bother to read the FAQs on the rating system. They'll think everything is green - has a star or two and hence is a good/better/great deal and just end up getting conned into buying something that sucks.Gee...who makes money on those referral links? Now you see the logic behind a system where every deal is a "good" deal.

Stars are even worse than the boost.