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veckle said:   Should Staff members really be giving other Staff members "green" on the deals they post? Hardly seems impartial.
I think you call that being "MODeRATED" ...

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veckle said:   Should Staff members really be giving other Staff members "green" on the deals they post? Hardly seems impartial.
I wouldn't expect that anything underhanded were meant by that -- it's probably all in good fun, with good intentions --
but if the votes on a thread/post mean anything in a practical sense - and I guess they do, in some ways (positioning of the thread on pages where threads are sorted by approval rating, being included in lists of most-trending threads, triggering email alerts, helping people to win contests, or whatever) - then maybe staff members shouldn't be able to vote at all, on any post by anybody.  ...IF they want to maintain that they are impartial.

If they don't feel that they ought to be, or ought to appear to be, impartial, then I think it's fine for them to have a vote.

Just make the policy clear one way or the other, so people who casually notice it don't feel that it is unfair. 

(And maybe you do state it clearly somewhere - I certainly haven't delved through the fine print of the site.)

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lvhotbagsinfo said:   you can give online order as you like a bags along professional view and take settled in his professional parties.
    *Shakes fist*
Hey You Kids!

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all your bags are belong to us

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A forum for digital downloading materials such as books, mps, and etc.

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cardreader said:   A forum for digital downloading materials such as books, mps, and etc.

I asked FW to do that -- earlier this year, or maybe it was last year.

It would help to keep the digital downloads in a separate group, since now they awkwardly straddle Free Stuff and Hot Deals (and they swamp Free Stuff).

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NantucketSunrise said:   
cardreader said:   A forum for digital downloading materials such as books, mps, and etc.

I asked FW to do that -- earlier this year, or maybe it was last year.

It would help to keep the digital downloads in a separate group, since now they awkwardly straddle Free Stuff and Hot Deals (and they swamp Free Stuff).

  The problem with having a forum with just digital downloads is going to be lack of content.  A digital downloads category would make more sense I think.  But, we already have Books & Mags, Free Apps, and Movies & Music for categories.  You can create a custom view to show just those categories and that would take care of the majority of your digital downloads.

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I don't know what you mean about such a sub-forum's having a lack of content - it would have squillions of threads in it called "free Kindle book: 101 household uses for baking soda" and "free itunes song, Sweet Caroline by Neil Diamond" etc. etc.

If the 3-threads-a-day "Grocery coupons" forum exists, I don't see why "Digital downloads" couldn't.

Do your categories straddle Free Stuff and Hot Deals, such that a person could click on "Books and Mags" and see ALL the forum threads about digital downloads of books and magazines, no matter where they were posted? (Sorry, I don't know myself, 'cos I use PeerBlock and I can't see all your Googly widgets or J-query thingamabobs myself.)

Anyway, I cannot speak for what FW member "cardreader" is looking for, but my point is not that *I* want a custom view where I can see these digital things gathered up for myself, my point is that I wish digital downloads were taken OUT of Free Stuff and Hot Deals in order to give all the rest of the categories some space so it's easier for me to skim through those forums without seeing "free kindle book" a million times; so that they can be bundled off to another location on the site, for the people who DO utilize them frequently.

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And I think it makes no sense at all to have the $10 or whatever threshold that determines whether a free thing is listed in Free Stuff or Hot Deals. If it's free, it's Free. If you want to cross-post certain threads from Free Stuff to Hot Deals too, no problem.

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And if having lots of clicks and being bookmarked in new people's browsers is to be desired, if you had such a forum that collected all this dazzling free intellectual property in one spot, I think such a forum would be a draw to people who are new to FW and don't want to do a lot of fiddling around with settings and stuff.  

...Just a big ole metal wheelie cart bearing plates of free doughnut bites and cocktail weiners on toothpicks, proffered on a napkin by a kindly little old lady, like at the supermarket on their free-sample day.  Figuratively, obviously.  Though maybe that describes a typical Tuesday afternoon at Beloit HQ, I don't know.
 

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It might be useful to allow users to create their own "virtual forums" by showing custom views on the forums menu and/or Quick Links.

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MVP9596 said:   
NantucketSunrise said:   
cardreader said:   A forum for digital downloading materials such as books, mps, and etc.

I asked FW to do that -- earlier this year, or maybe it was last year.

It would help to keep the digital downloads in a separate group, since now they awkwardly straddle Free Stuff and Hot Deals (and they swamp Free Stuff).

  The problem with having a forum with just digital downloads is going to be lack of content.  A digital downloads category would make more sense I think.  But, we already have Books & Mags, Free Apps, and Movies & Music for categories.  You can create a custom view to show just those categories and that would take care of the majority of your digital downloads.
 

actually - you can't ...  because the mods have very strange ideas about what category something should be under ... that "custom view" has become pretty much worthless to me ... especially in GC&D ...

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MVP9596 said:   
veckle said:   
MVP9596 said:   Hi jumpattack!

The replies column over on the right side is a good indicator to show whether you've read a thread or not. If you see "xx unread", that's telling you that you've opened the thread, and there were xx replies since you last viewed it. Clicking on that link will take you to the first unread message. I've attached a screenshot that shows you what I'm referring to.

  When I see "xx unread", I click on the link and often times I get "ERROR The message you are trying to link to is not in this topic." It looks like the unread replies were deleted for whatever reason, but the original "xx unread" doesn't go away after revisiting the thread. When I see it again, I go to read again only to get the error. After a few fails, I make a mental note not to fall for it again. Can this be fixed?

 Do you have any examples for me by chance?  I had thought this was fixed a while back, but I could be thinking of a different situation.

  This is still unresolved. When you folks delete a reply, it shows up as unread and there is nothing to read because it was deleted.

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veckle said:   
MVP9596 said:   
veckle said:   
MVP9596 said:   Hi jumpattack!

The replies column over on the right side is a good indicator to show whether you've read a thread or not. If you see "xx unread", that's telling you that you've opened the thread, and there were xx replies since you last viewed it. Clicking on that link will take you to the first unread message. I've attached a screenshot that shows you what I'm referring to.

  When I see "xx unread", I click on the link and often times I get "ERROR The message you are trying to link to is not in this topic." It looks like the unread replies were deleted for whatever reason, but the original "xx unread" doesn't go away after revisiting the thread. When I see it again, I go to read again only to get the error. After a few fails, I make a mental note not to fall for it again. Can this be fixed?

 Do you have any examples for me by chance?  I had thought this was fixed a while back, but I could be thinking of a different situation.

  This is still unresolved. When you folks delete a reply, it shows up as unread and there is nothing to read because it was deleted.

  Could you provide some example URL's and screenshots?

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I am looking at the deals for cell phones: http://www.fatwallet.com/electronic-cell-phone-deals
There are plenty of deals there for accessories as well. It would be very helpful if cell phones and accessories were separate subcategories so I could look at just the cell phone deals. There is currently a subcategory for Apps but that is currently empty. How about changing it to Accessories and Apps and adding a subcategory for Phones?

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MVP9596 said:   
veckle said:   
MVP9596 said:   
veckle said:   
MVP9596 said:   Hi jumpattack!

The replies column over on the right side is a good indicator to show whether you've read a thread or not. If you see "xx unread", that's telling you that you've opened the thread, and there were xx replies since you last viewed it. Clicking on that link will take you to the first unread message. I've attached a screenshot that shows you what I'm referring to.

  When I see "xx unread", I click on the link and often times I get "ERROR The message you are trying to link to is not in this topic." It looks like the unread replies were deleted for whatever reason, but the original "xx unread" doesn't go away after revisiting the thread. When I see it again, I go to read again only to get the error. After a few fails, I make a mental note not to fall for it again. Can this be fixed?

 Do you have any examples for me by chance?  I had thought this was fixed a while back, but I could be thinking of a different situation.

  This is still unresolved. When you folks delete a reply, it shows up as unread and there is nothing to read because it was deleted.

  Could you provide some example URL's and screenshots?

  
I've got several of these on my list of "threads I've participated in" too. 

This has been the case for a long time.  I'm pretty sure I started a "Fatwallet forum" thread about this (or posted in this thread about it) several months ago.

Usually it just shows 1 unread.  However, on one of the threads, it says there are 2 unread posts, and it also indicates that the last post in the thread was by me (so it's impossible that I wouldn't have read the last post, since I wrote it).  When I click on it, the red error box comes up saying "the message you are trying to link to is not in this topic".

Here are seven examples.  I think that they will give you the red error box if you click on them.

http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/finance/1399531/m18770508/#m18770508 

http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/travel-discussion/1402980/m18770437/#m18770437 

http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/fatwallet/1401064/m18760808/#m18760808 

http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/finance/1398218/m18743708/#m18743708 

http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/fatwallet/1395522/m18726200/#m18726200 

http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/grocery-coupons/858468/m18698968/#m18698968 

http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/finance/1384633/m18659471/#m18659471

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NantucketSunrise said:   
MVP9596 said:   
veckle said:   
MVP9596 said:   
veckle said:   
MVP9596 said:   Hi jumpattack!

The replies column over on the right side is a good indicator to show whether you've read a thread or not. If you see "xx unread", that's telling you that you've opened the thread, and there were xx replies since you last viewed it. Clicking on that link will take you to the first unread message. I've attached a screenshot that shows you what I'm referring to.

  When I see "xx unread", I click on the link and often times I get "ERROR The message you are trying to link to is not in this topic." It looks like the unread replies were deleted for whatever reason, but the original "xx unread" doesn't go away after revisiting the thread. When I see it again, I go to read again only to get the error. After a few fails, I make a mental note not to fall for it again. Can this be fixed?

 Do you have any examples for me by chance?  I had thought this was fixed a while back, but I could be thinking of a different situation.

  This is still unresolved. When you folks delete a reply, it shows up as unread and there is nothing to read because it was deleted.

  Could you provide some example URL's and screenshots?

  
I've got several of these on my list of "threads I've participated in" too. 

This has been the case for a long time.  I'm pretty sure I started a "Fatwallet forum" thread about this (or posted in this thread about it) several months ago.

Usually it just shows 1 unread.  However, on one of the threads, it says there are 2 unread posts, and it also indicates that the last post in the thread was by me (so it's impossible that I wouldn't have read the last post, since I wrote it).  When I click on it, the red error box comes up saying "the message you are trying to link to is not in this topic".

Here are seven examples.  I think that they will give you the red error box if you click on them.

http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/finance/1399531/m18770508/#m18770508 

http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/travel-discussion/1402980/m18770437/#m18770437 

http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/fatwallet/1401064/m18760808/#m18760808 

http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/finance/1398218/m18743708/#m18743708 

http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/fatwallet/1395522/m18726200/#m18726200 

http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/grocery-coupons/858468/m18698968/#m18698968 

http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/finance/1384633/m18659471/#m18659471
 

  Examples are good, but I need screenshots too.  Those threads are not showing the messages unread for me. 

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NS, I see the error message on every link you posted. Those are direct links to messages that are unavailable to us because of moderation. Maybe that is why the mods don't see the error, perhaps they see the message itself instead. This is my first attempt at a screenshot:

 

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veckle said:   NS, I see the error message on every link you posted. Those are direct links to messages that are unavailable to us because of moderation. Maybe that is why the mods don't see the error, perhaps they see the message itself instead. This is my first attempt at a screenshot:
 

Thanks for doing the screenshot, Veckle. 

Mods, the pink area that is just hinted at, at the top of that screenshot is the bottom of the error box that says "the message you are trying to view is not here" or whatever.

I agree, Veckle, that the moderator accounts probably don't get the errors when clicking on my hyperlinks, but a normal account would surely throw the errors up, so if the mods have access to a regular account somehow (surely they do?, in order to see the site from the public's perspective), or if they can sign up for one now as a test account, then they'll be able to see the pink error boxes that you and I get on those threads.

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By the way, a couple of the 7 threads that I listed here (http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/fatwallet/821322/m18773740/#m187... 
no longer have the persistent "1 unread" or "2 unread" notices which lead to the pink warning box,
because some folks have visited them in the last few days and submitted posts that I CAN see, so the "unread" notices are now gone from those threads.

Seeing that happen, I got the urge to visit the other 4 or 5 threads in my list that still have the incorrect "1 unread" or "2 unread" notices and leave a new post myself on each one, in order to make the incorrect notices disappear from my list! (Yes, a bit "anal", I guess!) But I thought I'd wait until the FW team has a look at this phenomenon, so they can see what Veckle and I are talking about, so I didn't do anything.

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I like how easy-to-use it is. Thanks for the first time in my life thet there an easy way to get the money where u want.

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bobbyboy27 said:   I like how easy-to-use it is. Thanks for the first time in my life thet there an easy way to get the money where u want.
  This would be a great topic for the following thread:

http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/fatwallet/1404450/

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Create a "drama" forum.  There are postings that have nothing to do with saving money and have nothing to do with deal discussion, but rather are all about "drama".  Other websites have drama forums.  These drama forums on fatwallet will be very popular.

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BradMajors said:   Create a "drama" forum.  There are postings that have nothing to do with saving money and have nothing to do with deal discussion, but rather are all about "drama".  Other websites have drama forums.  These drama forums on fatwallet will be very popular.
Done.
http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/off-topic/

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jayK said:   
BradMajors said:   Create a "drama" forum.  There are postings that have nothing to do with saving money and have nothing to do with deal discussion, but rather are all about "drama".  Other websites have drama forums.  These drama forums on fatwallet will be very popular.
Done.
http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/off-topic/

  Yep. OT is it. The problem is all the stuff that should get posted there that gets posted in HD, DD, and finance instead. Here's an example of a silly thread that was originally posted in finance, later moved to DD, and finally moved to OT where it belongs: http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/off-topic/1403943/ 

Here's another good example, originally posted in DD and correctly moved to OT: http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/off-topic/1411541/ .

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yoregano said:   
jayK said:   
BradMajors said:   Create a "drama" forum.  There are postings that have nothing to do with saving money and have nothing to do with deal discussion, but rather are all about "drama".  Other websites have drama forums.  These drama forums on fatwallet will be very popular.
Done.
http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/off-topic/

  Yep. OT is it. The problem is all the stuff that should get posted there that gets posted in HD, DD, and finance instead. Here's an example of a silly thread that was originally posted in finance, later moved to DD, and finally moved to OT where it belongs: http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/off-topic/1403943/

  God?

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Are you asking which forum God should post in? I think he has far more worthy things to do than concern himself with the trivialities of an internet forum.

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yoregano said:   Are you asking which forum God should post in? I think he has far more worthy things to do than concern himself with the trivialities of an internet forum.Maybe that's the way s/he wants to you think. Seems likely that OT would be the most likely place on FW to find God - or at least a conduit to him/her...

Even God would avoid FWF...some places are beyond saving(s)

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How about a View First Unread button so if it is a long thread you can go to the first unread post instead if trying to remember where you left off.

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chester215 said:   How about a View First Unread button so if it is a long thread you can go to the first unread post instead if trying to remember where you left off.
  
That exists already in modern view.

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