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Gertrude23 said: I'm not getting the underlying current (or proper etiquette). Is posting a 'thank you' a nice, friendly thing to do or not?IMHO posting just to say "thank you" is not necessary, that's what the + button is for. If you have something specific to add about the deal, by all means post it, but dozens of people posting "thank you" doesn't add anything to the thread, and it can drown out posts that actually contain useful information.

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Gertrude23 said:
I'm not getting the underlying current (or proper etiquette). Is posting a 'thank you' a nice, friendly thing to do or not?


I know that some people use the FS forum to post "thanks" in order to keep a "log" of offers they replied to. I think that is that is the only way that they can do that. That way, they do a search of their user name, see that they posted in "X" thread, and that's how they know where they got a freebie from.

Some people also use it to up their thread count so that they are no longer a "new member" or maybe it will put them in the 1k club.

Some people just post "thanks" because its all they know, which isn't always necessarily bad.

I know that most members who have been here for a while and who do not like the "thanks posts" would prefer that people only post when they have something useful to add. Things like: "Here is the corrected link" or "I tried this offer 6 months ago and never received anything" or "If you call in, you will get it faster" or even "thanks, I have a brother who has cancer and he will find this booklet useful". Those kinds of posts are generally not frowned upon.

Again, these are just my observations so I could be oh, so wrong. Wouldn't be the first time.

Suggestions: Have a better way for members to find threads they have responded to AND/OR allow members to see Threads that they have marked green.

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trksh22 said: Suggestions: Have a better way for members to find threads they have responded to AND/OR allow members to see Threads that they have marked green.Yes, we know that "today" shows the last 20 threads you posted in, but I can see that's not useful if you're trying to keep track of freebies (I save a screenshot). Can you search the freebie forum and find all the threads you've responded to? Could a similar something be done to find all threads you greened (or redded)?

(and by the way, where are the "forum tools" in Modern or betaModern view?)

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whats the point of the post count anyways?

is there an advantage to having a high post count? i've been around a while and i don't recall any "perks" for having a high post count. fill me in if there is another reason besides respect among peers.

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Good replies. As I thought about it more, I'd rather not see a plain TY post. It's inefficient to get a "new posting" email and follow it just to see someone posted at TY. Appreciate input.

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Get rid of the http, https, ftp, and mail buttons in reply.php and replace them with a single "link" button.

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I agree, I think it's pretty confusing to have multiple linking options.

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Muffin suggestion I post these here, so here goes:

1. When sending a personal response to a user, don't send the canned response as well. Just respond with the actual message itself and nothing else.

2. When sending a personal response, send it from your username account so that we know who we're talking to instead of the Moderator (staff) username. Most of the mods and I have a pretty laid back relationship where we kid around and poke fun at each other so it would be nice to know who's bustin' my balls. But when messages come from a Moderator (staff) username, I have no idea who I'm talking to.

3. FW should have a page with a listing of staff usernames (not real names, there's no need for that) and a listing of what their function is. It seems like FW now has a bunch of new people and I don't really know what their roles/functions are. That way, when I have a question for mods, I'll ask one of the mods. If it's a question for developers, I'll ask the developers. It's a good way to build a better working relationship between the community users and staff.

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Sounds like Partial got spanked again.

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TM1 said: Sounds like Partial got spanked again.

No no, not this time... There was nothing provocative/juicy to post about today to stir things up a bit...


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you should add alerts by topic

ie

alert me when new post in electronics camcorders

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If it says "moderator" in the user title, then it is a mod

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PartialwrtX said: 3. FW should have a page with a listing of staff usernames (not real names, there's no need for that) and a listing of what their function is. It seems like FW now has a bunch of new people and I don't really know what their roles/functions are. That way, when I have a question for mods, I'll ask one of the mods. If it's a question for developers, I'll ask the developers. It's a good way to build a better working relationship between the community users and staff.I think this is a good suggestion...it wouldn't take much time to implement (a simple thread in this forum would be fine), and it would provide users with a window into how FW is run. I can't think of a downside to this.

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MVP9596 said: If it says "moderator" in the user title, then it is a mod

Dude, there are lots of new people now and some of ya'll who used to be mods have now been promoted to jani... errrr, I mean higher-level mods (like whatever the hell Mars is nowadays )... So having a list indicating who's who wouldn't be a bad idea... Besides, I don't know the new staff people... How am I gonna convince them to vote Republican if I don't even know who the hell they are?

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PartialwrtX said: MVP9596 said: If it says "moderator" in the user title, then it is a mod

Dude, there are lots of new people now and some of ya'll who used to be mods have now been promoted to jani... errrr, I mean higher-level mods (like whatever the hell Mars is nowadays )... So having a list indicating who's who wouldn't be a bad idea... Besides, I don't know the new staff people... How am I gonna convince them to vote Republican if I don't even know who the hell they are?


We're hiding them from you on purpose sir

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MVP9596 said: PartialwrtX said: MVP9596 said: If it says "moderator" in the user title, then it is a mod

Dude, there are lots of new people now and some of ya'll who used to be mods have now been promoted to jani... errrr, I mean higher-level mods (like whatever the hell Mars is nowadays )... So having a list indicating who's who wouldn't be a bad idea... Besides, I don't know the new staff people... How am I gonna convince them to vote Republican if I don't even know who the hell they are?


We're hiding them from you on purpose sir


C'mon, man! That ain't right...

Moderator Comment: Back on topic, please. I WILL be cleaning out these non-suggestion-related posts... or having MVP do it. Per your suggestion, though, I did hear talk of an About Us that includes our "human" side... names and faces and roles - oh my! — Apr. 18, 2008 @ 1:23pm
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To the mod comment ----^, just to reiterate, when I said names I meant usernames, not necessarily actual names... I don't know if you want people's real names on there...

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ThursdaysChild said: How about different mod replies when topics are locked. The standard "the topic is covered here" doesn't always fit.

For example, in this OP in the Finance thread "securely parking a million dollars," the reason for locking was that the topic is covered in the Liquid Account Rates-only thread. But it's also covered in the CD rates thread, and really, since a question was asked, it should be linked to a discussion thread rather than a rate thread. Can the mod message "the topic is covered here" link to more than one thread?


The moderation team isn't an expert in all of the Finance forums and where all the information is located. If you send in a moderator alert on the thread with this information, then yes we can edit the Moderator message with multiple links.

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PartialwrtX said: Muffin suggestion I post these here, so here goes:

1. When sending a personal response to a user, don't send the canned response as well. Just respond with the actual message itself and nothing else.

2. When sending a personal response, send it from your username account so that we know who we're talking to instead of the Moderator (staff) username. Most of the mods and I have a pretty laid back relationship where we kid around and poke fun at each other so it would be nice to know who's bustin' my balls. But when messages come from a Moderator (staff) username, I have no idea who I'm talking to.

3. FW should have a page with a listing of staff usernames (not real names, there's no need for that) and a listing of what their function is. It seems like FW now has a bunch of new people and I don't really know what their roles/functions are. That way, when I have a question for mods, I'll ask one of the mods. If it's a question for developers, I'll ask the developers. It's a good way to build a better working relationship between the community users and staff.



1. Agree no reason for multiple canned responses. The personal reply along with the canned response all in one PM should suffice.

2. Disagree, this causes mod shopping, and "this moderator doesn't like me" issues. If the moderator chooses to let you know, then that is their choice. I would like to see a reply button to the message that allows you to respond to the original moderator alert, and then have it opened backup for the moderation staff to review.

3. Yes and no. I have no problem with you knowing who we are, but there is a process for getting issues addressed correctly. That is using alert moderator to a message, or sending in a support ticket for bigger issues. Then it can be logged correctly and forwarded to the correct people.

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jray225 said: The moderation team isn't an expert in all of the Finance forums and where all the information is located. If you send in a moderator alert on the thread with this information, then yes we can edit the Moderator message with multiple links.The mod team should take advantage of the expertise in the community...subject matter experts (both mods and regular users) could be designated in each forum, and if a mod is unsure about what to do with a specific thread, a secondary discussion could be created on what the SMEs think the mod action should be. This would be easy to implement if true threading were added within FW topics, but for now it could be a thread in this forum, or a separate forum available only to SMEs.

This is similar to the "discussion" page on wikipedia article, and I believe Kuro5hin/scoop has a feature like this for separate editorial discussion.

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jayK said: jray225 said: The moderation team isn't an expert in all of the Finance forums and where all the information is located. If you send in a moderator alert on the thread with this information, then yes we can edit the Moderator message with multiple links.The mod team should take advantage of the expertise in the community...subject matter experts (both mods and regular users) could be designated in each forum, and if a mod is unsure about what to do with a specific thread, a secondary discussion could be created on what the SMEs think the mod action should be. This would be easy to implement if true threading were added within FW topics, but for now it could be a thread in this forum, or a separate forum available only to SMEs.

This is similar to the "discussion" page on wikipedia article, and I believe Kuro5hin/scoop has a feature like this for separate editorial discussion.


Still need to alert the moderator. No one even a special person in finance knows all the information in finance. If you see a post that is locked with a link to a thread, and you think that another link is need, or the moderators message is unclear then let us know, and we can change it.

I was addressing the suggestion that said we should be able to edit moderator message. The moderator do have the ability to edit the moderator message. Let us know.


Edit by Moderator: I can edit this message to say whatever is needed. FAQ

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jayK said: jray225 said: The moderation team isn't an expert in all of the Finance forums and where all the information is located. If you send in a moderator alert on the thread with this information, then yes we can edit the Moderator message with multiple links.The mod team should take advantage of the expertise in the community...subject matter experts (both mods and regular users) could be designated in each forum, and if a mod is unsure about what to do with a specific thread, a secondary discussion could be created on what the SMEs think the mod action should be. This would be easy to implement if true threading were added within FW topics, but for now it could be a thread in this forum, or a separate forum available only to SMEs.

This is similar to the "discussion" page on wikipedia article, and I believe Kuro5hin/scoop has a feature like this for separate editorial discussion.


My reply to your suggestion. I like your idea, and it has been brought up before. I just mentioned last Thursday about maybe assigning moderators to a forum in addition to their regular duties. Making it their responsibility to get to know the community in that forum. We have also talked about having lead users of a forum have some form of acknowledgment on the title, and possibly access to some moderation resources.

This was my solution on how FatWallet the company can keep that small feel, and be more involved with segments of our community. We are getting big enough that no one can be an expert across all the forums. IMO

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I like the idea of having a content/member specialist, for lack of a better description. There is no doubt that some of the moderation staff know more about some forums than others. It could also help avoid having to step on that person's toes by asking another staff member for an explanation about why someone else did what they did. Many of us have had things reversed based on decisions someone else made that may have been incorrect.

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jray225 said: 2. Disagree, this causes mod shopping, and "this moderator doesn't like me" issues. If the moderator chooses to let you know, then that is their choice. I would like to see a reply button to the message that allows you to respond to the original moderator alert, and then have it opened backup for the moderation staff to review.

I doubt it, it really shouldn't matter. If a mod makes the right decision, even if I don't like it, I'm not gonna say the mod doesn't like me. I know for a fact that the mods I like most delete the majority of my posts that get deleted. Just because they delete my posts (which should be deleted according to the rules here), doesn't mean I don't like them. But the main thing with knowing who's talking to you is building a working relationship with people. If you don't know who you're talking to, it's very impersonal.

3. Yes and no. I have no problem with you knowing who we are, but there is a process for getting issues addressed correctly. That is using alert moderator to a message, or sending in a support ticket for bigger issues. Then it can be logged correctly and forwarded to the correct people.

Well, knowing who's who is more so to know the people and who does what, not necessarily avoiding "the process"...

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jray225 said: <snip> I would like to see a reply button to the message that allows you to respond to the original moderator alert, and then have it opened backup [sic] for the moderation staff to review.I agree that this would be useful.

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I'd like to see FW implement a "tar pit" option to be used on anyone who posts scams.

The key is to track the incoming IP address along with user ID. When a user posts one of those scam $500 gift cards the mod would not only delete the post but add them to the "tar pit" list. The goal isn't to ban the user, merely eradicate his/her posts. So in future when they come to post again, they can type and submit their post, but it would never show up in the forum.

Being low-life scum they'll probably just move onto the next forum to post again without ever noticing their post silently disappeared.

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good idea

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I'd like to see a WYSIWYG user interface for posts that will allow different fonts, including fixed-width fonts. The current option of using the code tags requires guesswork and constant previews in order to ensure the text lines up. This makes one of the most easily read rate Quick Summaries, located in the FWF Best Nationally Available High APY Liquid Accounts Thread the hardest to maintain. Thanks.

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glxpass said: I'd like to see a WYSIWYG user interface for posts that will allow different fonts, including fixed-width fonts. The current option of using the code tags requires guesswork and constant previews in order to ensure the text lines up. This makes one of the most easily read rate Quick Summaries, located in the FWF Best Nationally Available High APY Liquid Accounts Thread the hardest to maintain. Thanks.A while back I had suggested allowing embedded spreadsheets, I think that would be a better solution than allowing multiple fonts.

For example:
http://testing-blogger-beta.blogspot.com/2006/10/testing-embeding-zoho-spreadsheet-into.html

If the FW staff doesn't want to roll out this feature globally, it should be pretty easy for a mod to add the spreadsheet code to just the High APY thread.

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It must be possible to limit/restrict the width of user names without stifling creativity.

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jayK said: glxpass said: I'd like to see a WYSIWYG user interface for posts that will allow different fonts, including fixed-width fonts. The current option of using the code tags requires guesswork and constant previews in order to ensure the text lines up. This makes one of the most easily read rate Quick Summaries, located in the FWF Best Nationally Available High APY Liquid Accounts Thread the hardest to maintain. Thanks.A while back I had suggested allowing embedded spreadsheets, I think that would be a better solution than allowing multiple fonts.

For example:
http://testing-blogger-beta.blogspot.com/2006/10/testing-embeding-zoho-spreadsheet-into.html

If the FW staff doesn't want to roll out this feature globally, it should be pretty easy for a mod to add the spreadsheet code to just the High APY thread.

There have been a number of occasions where I simply wanted the text on different lines to be aligned properly, or to use more than one space consecutively. While your suggestion of allowing embedded spreadsheets is a good one, I don't want to always have to use one in order to accomplish this. I'd even settle just for a fixed-width font WYSIWYG option to replace the code tags.

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glxpass said: I'd even settle just for a fixed-width font WYSIWYG option to replace the code tags.In the meantime, you can use Notepad with word wrap disabled for a preview of what a block of fixed-width text would look like.

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jayK said: glxpass said: I'd even settle just for a fixed-width font WYSIWYG option to replace the code tags.In the meantime, you can use Notepad with word wrap disabled for a preview of what a block of fixed-width text would look like.
An interesting suggestion, but I haven't figured out how to do this for fixed-width text and the tags that FW uses, especially the http and https tags. I've converted the [ and ] to < and >, but apparently FW doesn't use pure HTML even with that modification. And I'm getting error messages from notepad saying there are incompatibilities between plain text and some of the formatting I'm using. There are no issues when I post on FWF, using these features, of course.

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Can you check for blank lines at the beginning of a post and delete them before posting the thread?

Look at this numbskull's post: link.

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It would be great to have the option to mark PM's as "unread" after you read them; sometimes you have time to read a PM but not respond to it. It would be helpful as a reminder to reply later if it still appeared unread.

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from jayK in another thread...

Allow one-click access to forum preferences.

and my question...

How 'bout the link to forum preferences in customizable forums nav? Either in default set or not?

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footn200 said: How 'bout the link to forum preferences in customizable forums nav? Either in default set or not?If you mean putting the "customize" link next to the other forums, I think this is a bad idea - the customize screen involves setting preferences, setting it apart from every other link in the forums nav. IMHO the forums nav should be for choosing a forum, and that's it.

There's plenty of room in modern to reproduce the "forum tools" bar from classic (new topic/customize/user profile/today).

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It would be nice if the actual message (from OP) can be included as a header on each subsequent page on all the threads. Probably, not in it's entirety but at least some of it with a link to expand it.

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ninad70 said: It would be nice if the actual message (from OP) can be included as a header on each subsequent page on all the threads. Probably, not in it's entirety but at least some of it with a link to expand it.

This is an interesting idea. Perhaps a little plus sign or something that can be expanded if users so desire. It should definitely be off by default

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I suggest...

Dell Small Business go back to giving 2% as the other place does.

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