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TM1
- piñata
posted: May. 13, 2008 @ 10:45a
Beboparoo said:Tazznum1 said:
From the looks of it, her friends are checking with anticipation as well. It's got around to most of the couponing boards. Some from what I see here are pooping a pickle and shouting it from the rooftops that their site might see a decrease in traffic or just more competition. I wondered why FW waited so long. I'll just watch from the sidelines eating a snickers bar for breakfast. 
Thank you for confirming my suspicions.
Steve, Tazz really needs a title. let me go dig up some of her old posts.  |
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lilbigmomma
- Member
posted: May. 13, 2008 @ 10:57a
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amszyh
- Senior Member - 3K
posted: May. 13, 2008 @ 1:45p
MarsdenFubar said:We want to bring back the Grocery Coupon forum. We have an idea on what we want to do, but we would like your input on what you would like.
In Modern there will be a few root categories, that will work in the same way the HD categorization works. • Coupons & Deals • Coupon Trading *clears out cobwebs*I'd come back for trading. Pphf trading would have to be allowed though or stamps or something equivalent.
MarsdenFubar said:They will be categorized by store, product, and manufacturer. If you want to find a coupon for cereal, you can. If you want to find coupons for a particular store, you can do that also. If you like certain brands, you can find them via the manufacturer categories.
If we do it right, we think "if we build it, they will come." Good. I think store listings would work better than category listings also. A meat deal at Jewel won't do me any good just like a pet food deal at Stop 'n Shop doesn't matter to me. |
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TM1
- piñata
posted: May. 13, 2008 @ 2:37p
amszyh said:*clears out cobwebs*I'd come back for trading. Pphf trading would have to be allowed though or stamps or something equivalent.
Hi amszyh. In my opinion, pphf trading is really "selling" and FW doesn't allow that. Trading to me means that I send you my ten coupons and you send me your ten coupons, or something similiar to that type of transaction. |
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MarsdenFubar (Staff)
- ~Night Elf Mohawk~
posted: May. 13, 2008 @ 2:45p
I would have to agree. PPHF would be selling/buying. |
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jayK
- Senior Member - JayK
posted: May. 13, 2008 @ 3:33p
I'm assuming PPHF means PayPal Handling Fee, in that you send someone money via PayPal in exchange for a coupon? Perhaps a FCHF system could be implemented instead using FatCash. |
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Beboparoo
- **Dust Warrior**
posted: May. 14, 2008 @ 6:46a
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TM1
- piñata
posted: May. 14, 2008 @ 6:56a
jayK said:I'm assuming PPHF means PayPal Handling Fee, in that you send someone money via PayPal in exchange for a coupon? Perhaps a FCHF system could be implemented instead using FatCash. That would be a waste off time because most of the fraudulent activity takes place behind the scenes in chat or via PM anyways. |
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Beboparoo
- **Dust Warrior**
posted: May. 14, 2008 @ 7:40a
TM1 said:jayK said:I'm assuming PPHF means PayPal Handling Fee, in that you send someone money via PayPal in exchange for a coupon? Perhaps a FCHF system could be implemented instead using FatCash.
That would be a waste off time because most of the fraudulent activity takes place behind the scenes in chat or via PM anyways. I think it will take place behind the scenes, and be terribly confusing. People sell coupons on eBay.
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jayK
- Senior Member - JayK
posted: May. 14, 2008 @ 10:02a
TM1 said:jayK said:I'm assuming PPHF means PayPal Handling Fee, in that you send someone money via PayPal in exchange for a coupon? Perhaps a FCHF system could be implemented instead using FatCash.
That would be a waste off time because most of the fraudulent activity takes place behind the scenes in chat or via PM anyways.If selling will happen behind the scenes anyway, offering a legit outlet for compensation (perhaps with an eBay-like feedback system?) would help reduce fradulent activity. Not sure if FW wants to get into that business though. |
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MarsdenFubar (Staff)
- ~Night Elf Mohawk~
posted: May. 14, 2008 @ 1:21p
Just posting some stuff. 1) It was mentioned to me that Grocery coupons should be for only brick and mortar deals. No .com stuff. 2) Do you want to totally pull Grocery/Health & Beauty out of the modern HD category system, and just have it in GC? 3) Do you want Health & Beauty stuff under $10 in GC (like free stuff guidelines)? 4) Do you want stuff categorized at all (like modern HD), or just all deals in a single root category? 5) Do you even want a trading, or discussion board? 6) Do you want Categories, and "deal types" like modern HD (deal types would bePrint Out Coupon, Print out rebate, Coupons By Mail, Rebates By Mail)? Feedback is good, so please let us know what you want.  |
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tlaxson
- Senior Member - 7K
posted: May. 14, 2008 @ 7:35p
1) Makes sense to include some .com deals. For example, Safeway.com and Amazon Grocery. 2) HBA at grocery stores should be in grocery, of course. I'd be ok keeping Bath and Body Works/Body Shop/etc type deals in HD, as they clearly are not grocery stores. 5) Do you guys really want to open a can of trading worms? If trades aren't allowed anywhere else, they should not be allowed in GC. If they are allowed for GC, then questions will arise as to why the rest of the site can't have trades/for-sale. |
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MVP9596 (Staff)
- ~Moderator~
posted: May. 14, 2008 @ 8:01p
Well, maybe buying/selling trading should be allowed too? |
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tlaxson
- Senior Member - 7K
posted: May. 14, 2008 @ 8:08p
Perhaps buy/sell/trade deserves its own thread for discussion. |
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jayK
- Senior Member - JayK
posted: May. 15, 2008 @ 1:03a
MVP9596 said:Well, maybe buying/selling trading should be allowed too?Why not? I don't understand why people are so against the idea of buying/selling/trading coupons. I don't normally use coupons all that much, but I might purchase coupons from others who have the time to gather them in batches - as long as that person has a positive reputation. Normally micropayments would be a hassle (and add transaction costs) but luckily we have FC - the only feature we would need is a way to send money to your FC account from a bank account. For those who rated my previous post red, I'm curious why you think it's such a bad idea. I don't mind the red, but it's hard to improve on an idea without knowing what the specific objections are.  |
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jayK
- Senior Member - JayK
posted: May. 15, 2008 @ 1:08a
MarsdenFubar said:1) It was mentioned to me that Grocery coupons should be for only brick and mortar deals. No .com stuff.I disagree, Amazon.com alone has a lot of grocery deals. 2) Do you want to totally pull Grocery/Health & Beauty out of the modern HD category system, and just have it in GC? 3) Do you want Health & Beauty stuff under $10 in GC (like free stuff guidelines)?IMHO Health & Beauty should stay in HD. Anything you can eat or drink should be in GC. Dollar limits would just be confusing. 4) Do you want stuff categorized at all (like modern HD), or just all deals in a single root category?Categorization would be a huge value-add, and if people don't like it they don't need to filter on categories. |
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MarsdenFubar (Staff)
- ~Night Elf Mohawk~
posted: May. 15, 2008 @ 6:02a
Thanks for all your input... keep it coming!  |
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shopliftinginva
- Tired Member
posted: May. 15, 2008 @ 6:16a
if you start allowing buying/selling/trading of anything, I don't want to see the crap arguments/complaints being dumped into OT though. OT tends to be the dumping ground of all kinds of crap, we don't need fighting over trades gone bad in there, or rants about other members in there too. |
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TM1
- piñata
posted: May. 15, 2008 @ 6:35a
tlaxson said:Perhaps buy/sell/trade deserves its own thread for discussion. Doesn't selling coupons violate the terms printed right on every coupon? I am just asking because there are many ways to "spin the languange" and get around it.
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Madmurphy
- Ancient Member
posted: May. 15, 2008 @ 8:49a
Most coupons spell it out specifically that selling, purchasing, trading and reproducing the coupon is prohibited. I randomly pulled three coupons from my clipped coupons: "Void if altered, copied, sold, purchased, transferred, exchanged, or where prohibited or restricted by law." "May not be reproduced, purchased, traded or sold." "Void if altered, transferred, sold, reproduced or exchanged." Even if FW ignored the legal reasons not to have a trade/sale forum, invariably, there are the "I didn't get my coupons/money/right coupons/coupons were expired/didn't get them on time/the person is a bad trader/yada yada" posts. And there will be folks who set up shop using FW as a front to sell coupons -- FW will become their store front. Coupons can be very profitable and an open market such as FW will be very welcome to them. Matching up future store ad sales and coupons is a perfect match. Is FW really wanting to be the store front for someone's coupon selling business? And what happens when others want in on the coupon selling but they start selling fake coupons? The distribution of fake coupons was rampant in the past and there's no doubt it will happen again. When there's the possibility of making $$$ on a sale, it will happen much more regularly. If coupon selling is such a great idea, why hasn't it been allowed in the HD or One Time Use Forums? If you want to experiment, try it there first. There are fewer coupons and there should be less fraud than will happen in the GC Forum. And, at least the majority of those coupons don't specifically state that coupons can't be "altered, transferred, sold, reproduced or exchanged." |
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