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alert mods    
   posted: Aug. 5, 2008 @ 7:03p

Why don't people use the [Flag As Dead Deal] link? I think I'm the only person who uses it.

example

865 page views, OOS hours ago, still not flagged as dead


   posted: Aug. 5, 2008 @ 7:03p

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alert mods    
   posted: Aug. 5, 2008 @ 9:46p

because it doesn't work. I've flagged TONS of deals as dead, but they never seem to be marked as dead. I think the secret algo is terrible


alert mods    
   posted: Aug. 6, 2008 @ 10:35a

It's not broken, it's what airtommy has pointed out. Not enough people have voted it dead to reach the threshold for marking it dead. There is no "secret algorithm". The number may need to be adjusted down some, but it's probably better that things aren't flagged as dead too soon.


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   posted: Aug. 6, 2008 @ 11:58a

airtommy said:Why don't people use the [Flag As Dead Deal] link? I think I'm the only person who uses it.

example

865 page views, OOS hours ago, still not flagged as dead

i'm with you on this. i guess people just arent aware or aren't thinking


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   posted: Aug. 6, 2008 @ 12:06p

Maniac said:It's not broken, it's what airtommy has pointed out. Not enough people have voted it dead to reach the threshold for marking it dead. There is no "secret algorithm". The number may need to be adjusted down some, but it's probably better that things aren't flagged as dead too soon.

Secret algo or too high a threshold - either way, people vote, it does nothing, people stop voting, and the cycle gets worse.


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   posted: Aug. 6, 2008 @ 1:46p

IAmStingRay said:because it doesn't work. I've flagged TONS of deals as dead, but they never seem to be marked as dead. I think the secret algo is terrible

I continue to mark deals as dead when necessary. As far as I know the threshold is 10 dead votes before a deal is marked as such.


alert mods    
   posted: Aug. 6, 2008 @ 2:49p

I think one of the problems is that, in modern view, the "mark as dead" button is hidden in a faintly visible skull & crossbones icon. IMHO there should be a link that says "mark as dead deal" there instead of a cryptic icon.


alert mods    
   posted: Aug. 6, 2008 @ 11:46p

People stop voting when they get no gratification. They want to see something happen the instant they make the selection. This works for ratings, but not flag as dead deal.


alert mods    
   posted: Aug. 18, 2008 @ 11:38p

vegetation said:People stop voting when they get no gratification. They want to see something happen the instant they make the selection. This works for ratings, but not flag as dead deal.Time for another icon - the sinking ship! As more people mark a thread dead, the ship sinks another row of pixels! After the magic number of votes, it is submerged, along with the now expired thread!

-cd


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   posted: Aug. 19, 2008 @ 8:20a

canydavid said:vegetation said:People stop voting when they get no gratification. They want to see something happen the instant they make the selection. This works for ratings, but not flag as dead deal.Time for another icon - the sinking ship! As more people mark a thread dead, the ship sinks another row of pixels! After the magic number of votes, it is submerged, along with the now expired thread!

-cdThat does sound fun. I'll see what we can do.


alert mods    
   posted: Aug. 19, 2008 @ 8:35a

how about the 'flag as dead' link flags the deal as dead AND adds the thread to the flaggers ignored topic list?


alert mods    
   posted: Aug. 19, 2008 @ 11:43a

mudley said:how about the 'flag as dead' link flags the deal as dead AND adds the thread to the flaggers ignored topic list?Just cause it's dead doesn't mean I'm not interested. If I got in on it, I may very well still want to monitor it. Yes, I can subscribed, but sometimes it's easier to watch it on the forums list.

-cd


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   posted: Aug. 19, 2008 @ 12:09p

canydavid said:mudley said:how about the 'flag as dead' link flags the deal as dead AND adds the thread to the flaggers ignored topic list?Just cause it's dead doesn't mean I'm not interested. If I got in on it, I may very well still want to monitor it. Yes, I can subscribed, but sometimes it's easier to watch it on the forums list.

-cd

Yeah, but there are those that flag a deal as dead to hoard it for themselves, ordering multiple times to multiple addresses and such . . . making it an 'ignored' topic automatically may squelch that type of behavior.


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   posted: Aug. 19, 2008 @ 12:40p

deathwish said:canydavid said:mudley said:how about the 'flag as dead' link flags the deal as dead AND adds the thread to the flaggers ignored topic list?Just cause it's dead doesn't mean I'm not interested. If I got in on it, I may very well still want to monitor it. Yes, I can subscribed, but sometimes it's easier to watch it on the forums list.

-cd

Yeah, but there are those that flag a deal as dead to hoard it for themselves, ordering multiple times to multiple addresses and such . . . making it an 'ignored' topic automatically may squelch that type of behavior.Ignored topics are still viewable - you can remain subscribed to them, access them via bookmarks, and even see them in title searches (if not regular searches too). Making it ignored won't do anything to stop hoarders.

-cd


alert mods    
   posted: Aug. 19, 2008 @ 3:56p

I don't like to vote threads dead at this point because they can sometimes com back to life. See the eBay thread.


alert mods    
   posted: Aug. 19, 2008 @ 4:07p

largeeyes said:I don't like to vote threads dead at this point because they can sometimes com back to life. See the eBay thread.Clearly there should be a way for people to vote "Flag as Un-Dead Deal" - maybe only once a deal is dead should this option appear.

-cd


alert mods    
   posted: Aug. 19, 2008 @ 4:24p

One PM to mods can solve that problem. All we need is for some small percentage of FWers to actually use the [Flag As Dead Deal] link.


alert mods    
   posted: Aug. 20, 2008 @ 7:00a

airtommy said:One PM to mods can solve that problem. All we need is for some small percentage of FWers to actually use the [Flag As Dead Deal] link.

He speaks the truth! If you see a deal flagged as dead, and it is not, send in a mod alert, and the mod can reset the dead count.


alert mods    
   posted: Aug. 20, 2008 @ 7:14a

MarsdenFubar said:airtommy said:One PM to mods can solve that problem. All we need is for some small percentage of FWers to actually use the [Flag As Dead Deal] link.

He speaks the truth! If you see a deal flagged as dead, and it is not, send in a mod alert, and the mod can reset the dead count. Mods "can" do anything, and that's fine. But the general operation of FW shouldn't rely on fixes by mods.
-cd


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