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exarkun said:   I'm finding this does not work the best for a vehicle that is low supply and in high demand (2016 honda pilot)
  Are you going outside of your region? You may need to travel or ship the car but even high demand/low supply cars you can still find the deals if the dealer needs the deal on the books. Everyone local told me the same thing about just closing on my Corvette due to very limited allocations that local dealers have for ordering them, but going to the highest volume dealer quickly changed that local "truth".

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