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This morning a sheriff's officer came and posted a summons for myself and my wife. The summons was for a collection agency that is suing "us" for $2852 in medical expenses.
She was paying the hospital for the bill every month for the last five years whatever she could. I'm sure she may have just missed two months together and now the collection agency is in charge. She must have not made payments or communicated with the collection agency. Now they are suing "us"
I do not understand why I would be sued. I WAS NOT married at the time when the expenses where incurred. If someone could shed some light on my situation, I would appreciate it. Possibly a course of action that I would need to take. I thought about calling the lawyer and possibly working out a payment plan or reduction of the total if it is paid in full. However, I thought I would consult with the board here as this is one of the only places I know where reasonable people give answers. Thank you for your time.



Go over to creditboard and post under the Medical debt forum. WhyChat is very helpful there.


Oh, I did not know about the creditboard. I will go ahead and do that. Thank you.


You need a debt collection attorney to look for fdcpa violations

Go to the NACA website , most will evaluate your situation at no charge and explain your tights and what laws may have been violated


Rights not tights

Stupid iphone


SUCKISSTAPLES said: You need a debt collection attorney to look for fdcpa violations

Go to the NACA website , most will evaluate your situation at no charge and explain your tights and what laws may have been violated

sorry had to save a copy before edit since it is so funny. I hate the droid word changes too.

So do you think they will want to see his tights or will a description be sufficient.


After they see his tights, they will file some briefs ...


SUCKISSTAPLES said: Go to the NACA website , most will evaluate your situation at no charge and explain your tights

I think if my wife found me wearing tights, I'd need more than the NACA on my side. But I definitely would have some explaining to do.


I miss CodeName


wife's picture would attract more help..


mnsweeps said: wife's picture would attract more help..
Look at his avatar?


jahnke771 said: this is one of the only places I know where reasonable people give answers.

Well, so much for that theory.


dcg9381 said: I miss CodeNameMe too, he's quite a character. However, his advice is all based on the presumption that CA would screw up. Really, he's a one-trick pony. The minute that tactic meet a foe that knows what they are doing, you are toast.

as a data point, I been helping a friend clean up some medical debt, everyone folded except one agency that got their crap together, validated everything on time and got good record of debt assignment from OC. so now the battle is a standstill.


dcg9381 said: I miss CodeName

Tights made you think of CodeName???

That's a whole different side of him the reporter must have glossed over.


byex0039 said: mnsweeps said: wife's picture would attract more help..
Look at his avatar?

its kinda blury....


After four years I learned to use the edit function.


After pointing out to OP that maybe he should be paying his bills instead of staying at deluxe rooms at the Bellagio, one of the most expensive hotels in Vegas I got this PM.

Thanks for not posting anything relevant to my thread. By the way, go f*** yourself.

the PM was not censored. Then OP went and cried to the mods and got my post taken down.


jahnke771 said: This morning a sheriff's officer came and posted a summons for myself and my wife. The summons was for a collection agency that is suing "us" for $2852 in medical expenses.
She was paying the hospital for the bill every month for the last five years whatever she could. I'm sure she may have just missed two months together and now the collection agency is in charge. She must have not made payments or communicated with the collection agency. Now they are suing "us"
I do not understand why I would be sued. I WAS NOT married at the time when the expenses where incurred
Well, you are now at the time they are suing you.


Quoted for posterity in case OP figures out how to use the edit feature...

jahnke771 said: This morning a sheriff's officer came and posted a summons for myself and my wife. The summons was for a collection agency that is suing "us" for $2852 in medical expenses.
She was paying the hospital for the bill every month for the last five years whatever she could. I'm sure she may have just missed two months together and now the collection agency is in charge. She must have not made payments or communicated with the collection agency. Now they are suing "us"
I do not understand why I would be sued. I WAS NOT married at the time when the expenses where incurred. If someone could shed some light on my situation, I would appreciate it. Possibly a course of action that I would need to take. I thought about calling the lawyer and possibly working out a payment plan or reduction of the total if it is paid in full. However, I thought I would consult with the board here as this is one of the only places I know where reasonable people give answers. Thank you for your time.


jahnke771 said: Will someone please take this thread down? I'm done with this site.
Why? You received good advice from ZenNuts and SIS. This thread has only been live 5.5 hours at this point, you haven't even given it a full day. Do you think every knowledgeable person is obligated to login hourly and reply to all threads immediately? You've been here more than four years, you should know what to expect from a public forum. There's no guarantee of problem-solving on demand ... [/rant]

I expect others will offer advice as time goes by. One obvious question is whether, before today, the CA ever mailed notices to you, or to you and your wife jointly, or tried to otherwise contact you directly regarding this matter ...


umcsom said: After pointing out to OP that maybe he should be paying his bills instead of staying at deluxe rooms at the Bellagio, one of the most expensive hotels in Vegas I got this PM.

Thanks for not posting anything relevant to my thread. By the way, go f*** yourself.

the PM was not censored. Then OP went and cried to the mods and got my post taken down.

It was a fund raising trip


I had a medical provider send me to collections over $15 one time. They claimed that I had blown off a year of bills.

After I threatened them a bit, the collections supervisor for the company admitted that their records were a disaster and half the people they sent to collections didn't belong there. This after a week of blowing me off and telling me I destroyed my perfect FICO over $15.


pietromoon said: umcsom said: After pointing out to OP that maybe he should be paying his bills instead of staying at deluxe rooms at the Bellagio, one of the most expensive hotels in Vegas I got this PM.

Thanks for not posting anything relevant to my thread. By the way, go f*** yourself.

the PM was not censored. Then OP went and cried to the mods and got my post taken down.


It was a fund raising trip

Aren't all Vegas trips?


LAwoodtiger said: pietromoon said: umcsom said: After pointing out to OP that maybe he should be paying his bills instead of staying at deluxe rooms at the Bellagio, one of the most expensive hotels in Vegas I got this PM.

Thanks for not posting anything relevant to my thread. By the way, go f*** yourself.

the PM was not censored. Then OP went and cried to the mods and got my post taken down.


It was a fund raising trip


Aren't all Vegas trips?
for the girls, yea...


LAwoodtiger said: Aren't all Vegas trips?If you do it right, you can get quite a few rise out of the trip.


On a more serious note I always thought that in general you aren't legally responsible for your spouses debts. Have I just misunderstood that or is it something that just varies from state to state? I assume that a judgement could still be used to seize joint property (depending on what the property was?) or is that how the OP is involved in the lawsuit now?


Revike said: jahnke771 said: Will someone please take this thread down? I'm done with this site.
Why? You received good advice from ZenNuts and SIS. This thread has only been live 5.5 hours at this point, you haven't even given it a full day. Do you think every knowledgeable person is obligated to login hourly and reply to all threads immediately? You've been here more than four years, you should know what to expect from a public forum. There's no guarantee of problem-solving on demand ... [/rant]

I expect others will offer advice as time goes by. One obvious question is whether, before today, the CA ever mailed notices to you, or to you and your wife jointly, or tried to otherwise contact you directly regarding this matter ...

If he is, in fact, done with this site, he won't see your response.

But anyway, like someone else mentioned, I thought that when you married you got their debt also. I know I'd rather take any debt than their family. ANY DAY.


ZenNUTS said: Go over to creditboard and post under the Medical debt forum. WhyChat is very helpful there.

seconded...whychat is amazing.

and fwiw, there are a lot of people with pristine credit and finances who have problems with medical collections for purely random reasons.


I like this thread for the entertainment value. Thank you.


jahnke771 said: Oh, I did not know about the creditboard. I will go ahead and do that. Thank you.

The OP's Creditboards thread said: I thought I would consult with the board here as this is one of the only places I know where reasonable people give answers.

I am amused.


evaluating tights.... haha!


jahnke771 said: Will someone please take this thread down? I'm done with this site.
In lieu of payment for FWF advice, the public pillory must continue. It's in the fine print.


At this point the OP has to answer the suit. You probably need a lawyer. They of course are hoping for a default judgement so you will pay them rather than the lawyer.


civ2k1 said: Quoted for posterity in case OP figures out how to use the edit feature...

jahnke771 said: This morning a sheriff's officer came and posted a summons for myself and my wife. The summons was for a collection agency that is suing "us" for $2852 in medical expenses.
She was paying the hospital for the bill every month for the last five years whatever she could. I'm sure she may have just missed two months together and now the collection agency is in charge. She must have not made payments or communicated with the collection agency. Now they are suing "us"
I do not understand why I would be sued. I WAS NOT married at the time when the expenses where incurred. If someone could shed some light on my situation, I would appreciate it. Possibly a course of action that I would need to take. I thought about calling the lawyer and possibly working out a payment plan or reduction of the total if it is paid in full. However, I thought I would consult with the board here as this is one of the only places I know where reasonable people give answers. Thank you for your time.

LOL!


I'm still wondering why the original Belagio post was deleted.

Other than it was inconvenient to OP's story, it seemed to be factual and presented without excessive commentary.


umcsom said: After pointing out to OP that maybe he should be paying his bills instead of staying at deluxe rooms at the Bellagio, one of the most expensive hotels in Vegas I got this PM.

Thanks for not posting anything relevant to my thread. By the way, go f*** yourself.

the PM was not censored. Then OP went and cried to the mods and got my post taken down.

I understand these finance forums. I could care less if I get "red" for a post. It's not going to make or break my day. I'm sure you sit at home whacking off to every extension of the little green flag for one of your posts. That's great.
Yes, I told you to f*** yourself. Sure, I asked the mod to take down my post. I was frustrated by some stalker bringing up irrelevant information to my thread. I let my emotions get the best of me. Instead of helping me, you belittled me. Thanks.
I appreciate the people with helpful responses. I'm still confused on what to do. I have received a starting point to gather information. I also noticed other posters questioning the idea of being married is your debt now. So all is not lost.


Posting PMs is lame.


Crazytree said: Posting PMs is lame.If can't be said in front of everyone, don't say it. Unless it's private info intended for one party only.

OP needs to show that he indeed wants help and take a ribbing with a bit of grown up humor. It would be a completely different reception if he just owe up to his mistake. FWF had gone quite gone far in the past for complete strangers on the net if they just show a bit of humility and wellingness to owe up to past mistakes.


jahnke771 said: This morning a sheriff's officer came and posted a summons for myself and my wife. The summons was for a collection agency that is suing "us" for $2852 in medical expenses.
She was paying the hospital for the bill every month for the last five years whatever she could. I'm sure she may have just missed two months together and now the collection agency is in charge. She must have not made payments or communicated with the collection agency. Now they are suing "us"
I do not understand why I would be sued. I WAS NOT married at the time when the expenses where incurred. If someone could shed some light on my situation, I would appreciate it. Possibly a course of action that I would need to take. I thought about calling the lawyer and possibly working out a payment plan or reduction of the total if it is paid in full. However, I thought I would consult with the board here as this is one of the only places I know where reasonable people give answers. Thank you for your time.


1. Why are you being sued? Why not, they think it increases their chance of recovery. Doesn't mean you're necessarily liable, though.
2. I wouldn't contact the attorney regarding a payment plan, that would imply that you consider yourself at least partially responsible for the debt. Contact them to find out just why YOU'RE being sued. Your wife can contact them about a payment plan.

Posted by OP 3/18/10: I've put it off long enough and now I have to deal with it. Our anniversary is in 5 days March 23 and I need some advice. I never bought a ring before. For my wedding, my wife just went to some place, got me and her a ring for about $100 total. Now she says she wants a nicer ring for our 5th anniversary. I'm clueless. I don't know what to do. I want to spend between 300-400 dollars. Is there any recommendations from FWF? I know you can buy rings on Amazon and other places online.
Amazon Ring This is something that looks decent and I think she will like. Does this look like a decent deal? I'm sorry for having to ask, but like I said I really don't know anything about this stuff.

As someone who ends up paying more for healthcare because of people who don't pay their bills, I can't say I feel very warmhearted toward someone who clearly CAN pay at least _something_ more toward their healthcare bills (i.e. take the $300-400 you were going to spend on your wife's 5 year anniversary ring and use that to help her pay down her debt, nice anniversary gift).


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ZenNUTS said: glxpass said: As you said, we will have to disagree about this.With due respect. I could not disagree more. Is a insult via PM more protected than say face to face insult or, a hand written note? Yet I doubt many would see recalling a in your face insult to the world or revealing such a note an ethical violation with the objection that, wait, it's intended for the recipent only?

ETA: If you or anyone is interested in the topic, google "posting private messages" (using the quotes). You'll see some cases where it's in violation of a particular forum's TOU, others where it's not. Regardless, most people take a dim view of it.This isn't the first time this issue has been discussed on FW and I disagree on the "most" part as well. http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/off-topic/1021217/

The rudeness and immaturity of an insult is one thing. How it's handled depends on the context. It's interesting that the examples you used, "face-to-face", "hand-written note", are generally between two people, not in a public arena. I read the thread you linked to. While the person who was insulted complained about the rude PM and while people could guess the author of it, at least the person didn't reveal the author directly. And the situation was handled with some humor, too.

Talking about "protected" for a moment, the offended party was also complaining that the insulting PM was allowed, but his forum post that the PM author complained about was deleted. Ask yourself or maybe a moderator why this occurred. I suspect part of the answer is that while insults aren't justified in any context, what is subject to moderation in a forum is different than what's subject to moderation in a PM.

Another aspect is that keeping things on a PM level at least gives the chance for resolving the problem. Making it public, and revealing who wrote the PM, just escalates the situation. And that's exactly what happened, with the PM recipient adding more insults in subsequent posts. Instead of a discussion that centered around the actual topic, the thread has contained mostly opinions about the OP and what kind of person he is.

I gave you the search term linky to find links that discuss this same issue about posting PMs, not debating about their rudeness. If you want to disagree "more", that's fine. I'll just say we disagree and leave it at that.

Edit: re-phrased a bit.




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