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MilleniumBuc said:   Me and my cousins, 3 in all, used to buy all sort of stuff on all sort of CashBack stores through fatwallet. Once we realized that we could return to the store at 89 days past purchase with receipt, we would get or money back, but the CashBack would not be reversed. Each of us has average about $300 per month for the last 5 years since I joined FW. I guess I did not consider this a heavy hitter thing, but I'm here to confess since I want to come clean.

Forgive me FW (and IRS) for my sins.

While it does not surprise me, it is a pretty big mistake for these companies to not test/catch this kind of edge case.


Every vendor that uses FW Cash Back is probably going through their books to audit returns. You'd better have that money ready to either return to the vendor or use to retain counsel.


SUCKISSTAPLES said:   LordKronos said:   I never made more than about $300/month from AORs, but I did have one of those infinite loops that I did sort of enjoy. Years ago I signed up for a Sony card because it had a promo of something like spend $2500 and get a $200 gift card. In the course of doing so I also racked up 2500 points (equivalent of $25). There wasn't much in their rewards program that interested me, so I ordered some movie theater tickets. 2 days later I get an email from Sony Rewards saying the order has been canceled because they are out of stock. They gave me 500 bonus points for the inconvenience and said I could reorder as soon as they are available. So I went to the website and they were still listed as available. I tried ordering it, and it went through. A few days later, I get another cancellation email and 500 more bonus points. After doing this enough times, I had enough points to order 2 sets. When the cancellation came through, they canceled each item separately and gave me 500 points for each one. Every couple of days, I was able to repeat this (though the occasional order went through completely). I was hoping to build up enough points to get a free TV or something, but after 2 months they did a complete overhaul of the Sony Rewards website, and the trick no longer worked. But from my $25 worth of points, I did earn enough points to get a $300 camera and about 30-40 movie tickets.
For being someone who criticized the chius,
this is different from what the chius did how ?

Seriously SIS?

1) I voilated no terms or conditions
2) I never provided anyone, andwhere, any false information. I used my real name, address, and email address and never changed it
3) I never attempted to split among multiple accounts in an attempt to hide it.
4) Whereas the chius were reaping rewards that were intended only for completed orders and not cancelled order, the points I was awarded were specifically intended to be given as an apology for an item being out of stock (it said so right in the cancellation email).
5) The email I received specifically said if I still wanted the item to place a new order if it is still available in the catalog.
6) At no point was I ever banned, told not to shop there, or in any way told to alter my ordering behavior

Also, I actually ordered the tickets because I wanted them. When all was said and done and the item was finally in stock for real, I ordered a bunch of them knowing I'd get them (or at least I had every reason to suspect I would).

Do you REALLY not see a differnce?


Edit: didn't notice you had asked this yesterday (not today) so I removed comments about already having answered since you were actually the first to ask.


It's unlikely given the guy's amount is like 18k total, so per retailer is pretty small...might not be large enough to be an issue...I think...given how many times I've not gotten CashBack from completely legit purchases, it's a little baffling to me how they run the CashBack


depalma13 said:   It's different because it's not him.

Quotin' this.


It's Back! Time to get really Heavy.

http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/hot-deals/1188671/


MilleniumBuc said:   Me and my cousins, 3 in all, used to buy all sort of stuff on all sort of CashBack stores through fatwallet. Once we realized that we could return to the store at 89 days past purchase with receipt, we would get or money back, but the CashBack would not be reversed. Each of us has average about $300 per month for the last 5 years since I joined FW. I guess I did not consider this a heavy hitter thing, but I'm here to confess since I want to come clean.

Forgive me FW (and IRS) for my sins.

ETA: It was really only one for a purchase of 300, by myself. None of my cousins were involved. Please back off my trail IRS.

Just wanted to let the IRS know that my fatwallet account was hacked during this time and someone posted this, but it wasn't me. I have never done a CashBack through fatwallet.


ironfist99 said:   It's Back! Time to get really Heavy.

http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/hot-deals/1188671/

Nah, I'd actually lose weight from the diarrhea


LiquidSilver said:   emgeecee said:   AOR still exists just in a different form. Previously it was getting as much money at 0% APR, and 0/very little fees as possible to sock into as high as possible FDIC insured accounts. However, the lessons learned from how to maximize credit cards opened and minimize hard credit inquiries are still done by many in order to collect cards with large initial bonuses in the form of cash/miles/points. Happy hunting.While I agree people are doing CC or bank signup bonuses for easy money (I did two this week), comparing that to the profit or technique of an AOR is a bit of a stretch. Two completely different animals.

You can reach big hitter status on the miles/points front. I am doing regular quarterly app-o-raman netting 250-450k points worth $2-4k in travel so at the top end that is over $1000 a month which sure as hell ain't bad.


Very much new to the game. Few months old. Made $500+ as Staples opened door for 25 off 75/100 few months back. Entered about 50 times thru that door and finally was caught. Now I can not enter online. Waiting for other doors to open. Meantime I make few bucks thru buy/sell GC's on eBay.


Your first step should be to communicate intelligibly.


ma91pmh said:   You can reach big hitter status on the miles/points front. I am doing regular quarterly app-o-raman netting 250-450k points worth $2-4k in travel so at the top end that is over $1000 a month which sure as hell ain't bad.

Since this is the HH thread, care to share the details from your last AOR?


SuckWallet said:   Very much new to the game. Few months old. Made $500+ as Staples opened door for 25 off 75/100 few months back. Entered about 50 times thru that door and finally was caught. Now I can not enter online. Waiting for other doors to open. Meantime I make few bucks thru buy/sell GC's on eBay. Seniors pls PM for any open door
Try entering through the backdoor!


My two stories about odd ways of making money. And let me say that I was in my early 20s and a starving college student. Probably wouldn't do these again. First, the slightly unethical one (similar to the Sony points story):

I was waiting to cash a check at a busy branch of a US Bank in a downtown urban area. The line was pretty long and the guy in front of me turned around and said "Have you been waiting for more than five minutes?" I said I had. He said "They have a guarantee that if you wait for more than five minutes to see a teller, they'll deposit $5 into your account. Tell them when you get to the front." I did mention it and they did give me $5. Since I worked down the block and walked by this branch regularly, I noticed that they almost always had a long line at lunch time, especially on Fridays. So I always made sure to stop in and do my transactions when the lines were long.

Not that lucrative. But it gets better. I found out this was called the "Five Star Service Guarantee." (I don't think they have this anymore) Their website had a list of things they guaranteed, only one of which was the five minute to see a teller bit. They also guaranteed that if you emailed them a question, they would respond with an answer within 24 hours. I emailed them a legitimate question and it took them almost two days. I quickly learned that they never responded within 24 hours. So every week I would come up with some random question about a transaction or service or account feature just so I could wait two days for the response and then request the $5. They always gave the $5.

Then I stepped it up and started emailing them questions every day. And I probably got 30 or 40 $5 credits before "Barbara" the CSR manager emailed to say that she had put a post-it note with my name on all the computers in the office and that all her workers were to direct my questions to her and that I was no longer entitled to the 5 star service guarantee. I was surprised it took that long to get caught. So I just told Barbara that I understood, but that I was only taking advantage of the simple fact that the bank had made a promise they were not willing to dedicate the resources to following through on. Total take, probably $400. A lot of effort involved, but it became a game for me.

Second scheme (and this one was kind of crazy and involved a bit of risk but was more lucrative), there was a sweepstakes put on by Cinemark where if you bought a large soda, there was a little pull ticket on it as a contest (like the monopoly game at mcdonalds). Except every ticket had a code that could be redeemed for at least 500 American AAdvantage miles if you went to the sweepstakes website and entered the code. I think 1 out of 50 tickets had 5,000 miles and then there were very rare higher prizes.

With every sweepstakes like this you can usually send a self-addressed stamped envelope to get a free gamepiece. I sent at least 400 SASEs. They realized they were all from the same person and sent back just a few envelopes with hundreds of gamepieces in each. So I had all these codes, which I sold on eBay. I put them up on a rolling basis so as to avoid saturating the market. Each of the 500 mile game pieces sold for between $8-$15. The 5,000 mile gamepieces all sold for $70-$90. I wasn't selling miles, which was against the AAdvantage terms. I was selling codes. Probably spent $200 on stamps and pulled in around $1,500 on eBay.


400 SASE x 500mi = 200,000 AA miles. Worth quite a bit more than $1300. Are you saying you could have gotten 1MM miles for only $1000?


There were limitations on the promotion. I think it was that each individual person could only redeem two codes or 10,000 miles total (unless you won a big one, which I didn't). I don't remember exactly. It was in 2005. I do know that I used two of the 5,000 codes myself but I couldn't redeem any more. I remember the same people would always bid on eBay, but then they would stop bidding once they had personally reached the limits of the promotion. So I would post on FlyerTalk to steer more people there to bid.

Also placing downward pressure on the price of the codes was the fact that anyone could go to one of the theaters and buy a large soda (probably for $6) and get the code that way.


scripta said:   400 SASE x 500mi = 200,000 AA miles. Worth quite a bit more than $1300.

He was getting a decent price for his miles -- $8-15 per 500 miles is ~2c/mile. It's just his math doesn't add up. 400 codes at a minimum of $8-15 per code gets you way more than $1500.


There is a prepaid card called Upside. They used to have it so that you could have funds direct deposited into your account easily. They gave you a routing and account number as soon as you signed up. You got one point for each dollar loaded onto the card. $4500 equaled $50 CashBack.

This version of the card was for teens so I signed my brother up and my "teen" self and easily made $50 a week on both cards. Unfortunately the party only lasted three months before they blocked the accounts due to "fraud". Luckily there were no funds in there at the time and I did not feel like dealing with it so I just shut it down.

Now you have to send in a copy of your drivers license before they will give you the routing and account number for direct deposit. You can still load funds by credit card (150 max load at 2.50 per load/1000 per month. I have a 1.75% visa so I was coming out on top) or by bank transfer through their site(you have to fill out a form and send it in and it can take a week for the funds to be available). I tried signing up again to see if maybe I can get the routing and account number anyway but I am banned.




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