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J3anyus said:   I haven't used TYP before so I wasn't familiar with them, and I'm mostly interested in getting cash rather than gift cards. It looks like they can be redeemed for cash at a rate of 8,000 TYP for $50, which would give you 3.125% CashBack on purchases for the first 6 months. So even if you can't find gift cards that you'd use, this is still a good deal. Or you can get gift cards and then sell them on Plastic Jungle, which should give you a higher percentage overall for a little bit of your time.

Best cash equivalent redemption is either student loan credit or mortgage payment (5%).
Best normal redemption is travel. You get a 20% discount (I think), so it's around 6.25% for airfare.

That being said. I can't wait for s report to roll in with someone who gets a $100k mortgage credit (churning somewhere in the neighborhood of 300k per month I think).


vistaluck said:   good to use it to pay property tax!!

Citi has a nasty habit of coding transactions as cash advances. Don't say you haven't been warned.


peteypablo said:   ZapperO said:   sloppy1 said:   Citi credit cards is well known for classifying any 'financial' equivalent as a cash advance with extra fees and no reward points.
So be careful here with the 'usual' AARP-type methods of getting lotsa 5% points fast.


So no Amazon?


My advice? Set your cash advance limit to zero and try a small transaction first, say $100.

DW got hit with cash advances while I was trying to quickly run up the $5K spend for the 80K ThankYou points offer last year. I paid the balance to produce a credit (to ensure that the interest clock stopped), and sent secure messages asking for the CA fee to be reversed. I was able to get it reversed both times -- totaling over $100.


stanolshefski said:   vistaluck said:   good to use it to pay property tax!!

Citi has a nasty habit of coding transactions as cash advances. Don't say you haven't been warned.

But as many mentioned "Set your cash advance limit to zero", that should solve the problem, no?


monarch20 said:   capnkidd said:   Any restrictions for business purchases?
Yes, all personal cards say in the terms for personal use only..
Use for business will often lead to adverse action.

What kind of adverse action?
I've used cards that I've gotten in my name (or even my wife's name) for my business expenses exclusively, for years, with all the major issuers.
What kind of actions would they take? Why would they even care?


From my experience citi generally only allows 25% income as personal limits. If you are at or over that it maybe a good idea to close an account first for better initial\instant approvals


I merged this account with an existing ThankYou account and it doesn't appear that I get the benefits of the "Preferred" account over the regular ThankYou accounts, such as the 25% travel discount and Amazon gift cards.

Has anyone done the same and gotten their ThankYou account upgraded?


MmmmJoel said:   I merged this account with an existing ThankYou account and it doesn't appear that I get the benefits of the "Preferred" account over the regular ThankYou accounts, such as the 25% travel discount and Amazon gift cards.

Has anyone done the same and gotten their ThankYou account upgraded?

I think you are confusing Preferred and Premier. Preferred gets you the better rate on student loan and mortgage payments but it takes Premier to get the better rate on airfare.


J3anyus said:   I haven't used TYP before so I wasn't familiar with them, and I'm mostly interested in getting cash rather than gift cards. It looks like they can be redeemed for cash at a rate of 8,000 TYP for $50, which would give you 3.125% CashBack on purchases for the first 6 months. So even if you can't find gift cards that you'd use, this is still a good deal. Or you can get gift cards and then sell them on Plastic Jungle, which should give you a higher percentage overall for a little bit of your time.

Get Amazon gift cards. You can get them 5000 points for 50 bucks, then sell them for 45-48 bucks pretty easily. So basically you get 45 bucks for 5k points. Much better deal than getting cash directly.


Citi is the one that sends out 1099's, right?
So the 5% becomes taxable income...My marginal tax rate is 44%, so that makes it a 2.7% card for me. Still not bad.


I really believe in a more friendly forum environment but when people refuse to search, its so hard...

This has been written so many times. No one 1099's for credit cards, never ever never.


stevento said:   Citi is the one that sends out 1099's, right?
So the 5% becomes taxable income...My marginal tax rate is 44%, so that makes it a 2.7% card for me. Still not bad.

Citi does not send out 1099s for credit card rewards -- only bank account bonuses.


stanolshefski said:   vistaluck said:   good to use it to pay property tax!!

Citi has a nasty habit of coding transactions as cash advances. Don't say you haven't been warned.

I had a 5% retention offer last year and they coded my car payment (Ford Credit) as a cash advance.


I have 6 new cards in 5 months including a a Citi Dividend from a month ago. One card has not reported yet. Otherwise great credit.... Anyone else done worse and still got approved?


mespin said:   stevento said:   Citi is the one that sends out 1099's, right?
So the 5% becomes taxable income...My marginal tax rate is 44%, so that makes it a 2.7% card for me. Still not bad.

Citi does not send out 1099s for credit card rewards -- only bank account bonuses.

then how is it that this card is not getting the same epic attention the AARP card got?

People get excited about sign on bonuses and the like, but IMO, for those with serious spending tends, the 5% would blow everything out of the water, and with minimum management.


stevento said:   mespin said:   stevento said:   Citi is the one that sends out 1099's, right?
So the 5% becomes taxable income...My marginal tax rate is 44%, so that makes it a 2.7% card for me. Still not bad.

Citi does not send out 1099s for credit card rewards -- only bank account bonuses.


then how is it that this card is not getting the same epic attention the AARP card got?

People get excited about sign on bonuses and the like, but IMO, for those with serious spending tends, the 5% would blow everything out of the water, and with minimum management.
Because many heavy hitters are blacklisted with citibank after the CashReturns party.


stevento said:   then how is it that this card is not getting the same epic attention the AARP card got?

People get excited about sign on bonuses and the like, but IMO, for those with serious spending tends, the 5% would blow everything out of the water, and with minimum management.


sloppy1 said:   Citi credit cards is well known for classifying any 'financial' equivalent as a cash advance with extra fees and no reward points.
So be careful here with the 'usual' AARP-type methods of getting lotsa 5% points fast.


stanolshefski said:   Citi has a nasty habit of coding transactions as cash advances. Don't say you haven't been warned.

stanolshefski said:   DW got hit with cash advances while I was trying to quickly run up the $5K spend for the 80K ThankYou points offer last year. I paid the balance to produce a credit (to ensure that the interest clock stopped), and sent secure messages asking for the CA fee to be reversed. I was able to get it reversed both times -- totaling over $100.

BrlDsguise said:   I had a 5% retention offer last year and they coded my car payment (Ford Credit) as a cash advance.

And there's really just not that much else to talk about.


So, is it better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all?


Perfect timing. Was in month 6 on AARP.


stevento said:   mespin said:   stevento said:   Citi is the one that sends out 1099's, right?
So the 5% becomes taxable income...My marginal tax rate is 44%, so that makes it a 2.7% card for me. Still not bad.

Citi does not send out 1099s for credit card rewards -- only bank account bonuses.


then how is it that this card is not getting the same epic attention the AARP card got?

People get excited about sign on bonuses and the like, but IMO, for those with serious spending tends, the 5% would blow everything out of the water, and with minimum management.

Few reasons. Citi is stricter at coding "churn" type purchases as cash advances. Thank you points are harder to redeem for the same dollar amount as Chase points (you will likely get a bit less than 5% when it's all said and done) and thank you points have to be redeemed for gift cards so it's not as good as cash.

DOn't get me wrong though, it's still a good opportunity and it will beat a standard 2% card.


jimmyrules712 said:   
Few reasons. Citi is stricter at coding "churn" type purchases as cash advances. Thank you points are harder to redeem for the same dollar amount as Chase points (you will likely get a bit less than 5% when it's all said and done) and thank you points have to be redeemed for gift cards so it's not as good as cash.

DOn't get me wrong though, it's still a good opportunity and it will beat a standard 2% card.

I recently asked a question which card would be best for bigger spenders.
I believe this card would be perfect.
I have no interest in churning, but I do have $20K monthly spends I'd like to get more rewards for.
Instead of chasing 50K signon bonuses, I'd prefer to have a card that gives double that for 6 months.
And as many other bigger spenders, I do have a sizable mortgage that I don't mind reducing by $12K.

So I'm pretty excited to have this card. Hopefully, when I get it, I'll be able to increase the credit limit from the useless $3K I approved.


I applied for this card and was told to call in to give further information. When a provided it, I was approved but for a low limit (seems I'm right at the exposure limit Citi is comfortable with). The CSR asked me if I wanted to move some of my CL from other cards to this one. I agreed and it was done in about 5 minutes.That is interesting. I called a few months ago to move CL's on cards I already have, and was told that Citi no longer does this. How much of a CL did you end up with on the new card, and from which card types did they allow you to move CL's?


So if I use this card to fund the new checking account, it will be treated as "cash advance", right?

Much appreciated for comfirmation.


Instant approval for a nice CL.

Let the games begin!


Also, using this card to pay for property taxes and/or 2011 tax payments, citi will call these transactions as cash advance as well?

Thanks!


I made about $75k Cash Back by using their cash returns card a couple years ago with similar 5% Cash Back (it was for 90 days last time, I fedexed a payment in every day to free up credit line).

Funny, they only approved me for $2k credit line this time and a NON preferred card (1% back). where's the love?


stevento said:   
then how is it that this card is not getting the same epic attention the AARP card got?

People get excited about sign on bonuses and the like, but IMO, for those with serious spending tends, the 5% would blow everything out of the water, and with minimum management.

Because it's not actually 5% CashBack like AARP was.


Argyll said:   stevento said:   
then how is it that this card is not getting the same epic attention the AARP card got?

People get excited about sign on bonuses and the like, but IMO, for those with serious spending tends, the 5% would blow everything out of the water, and with minimum management.


Because it's not actually 5% CashBack like AARP was.

I don't see how it is different then the AARP Card.
AARP Card:
5 Points per purchase for first 6 months redeemable for many things including check for amounts in increments of $25 (2,500 points)
Unlimited points can be earned during the promotional period.

Citi TY Preferred
5 Points per purchase for first 6 months redeemable for many things including check (made out to Mortgage company or student loan company) for amounts in increments of $25 (2,500 points)
Unlimited points can be earned during the promotional period.

P.S. I am out of the game i.e. declined due to excessive inquires and reached maximum credit extended by CITI (I know I can ask them to reallocate, but can't make those inquires dissappear fast enough)


Some will just never learn. Chase thread all over again.


Rorer714 said:   Some will just never learn. Chase thread all over again.

I know what I did... There I changed a couple words. Happy? Lots of people have mortgages that can legitimately have the payments applied too.


Rorer714 said:   Some will just never learn. Chase thread all over again.

Nothing ventured, nothing gained.


BarryAndLevon said:   Nothing ventured, nothing gained.Nice pun. However, very few did any venturing and gaining this year. We can tell by how quiet the Venture Match My Miles thread was this year.


dhl said:   Argyll said:   stevento said:   
then how is it that this card is not getting the same epic attention the AARP card got?

People get excited about sign on bonuses and the like, but IMO, for those with serious spending tends, the 5% would blow everything out of the water, and with minimum management.


Because it's not actually 5% CashBack like AARP was.



P.S. I am out of the game i.e. declined due to excessive inquires and reached maximum credit extended by CITI (I know I can ask them to reallocate, but can't make those inquires dissappear fast enough)

may i ask how many inquiries?


expert5186 said:   Funny, they only approved me for $2k credit line this time and a NON preferred card (1% back). where's the love?

I also got approved for the non-preferred card, but it's not clear to me if the 5% promo is for the preferred card only, since the same card may have different promotions based on the application code.


nwill002 said:   dhl said:   Argyll said:   stevento said:   
then how is it that this card is not getting the same epic attention the AARP card got?

People get excited about sign on bonuses and the like, but IMO, for those with serious spending tends, the 5% would blow everything out of the water, and with minimum management.


Because it's not actually 5% CashBack like AARP was.



P.S. I am out of the game i.e. declined due to excessive inquires and reached maximum credit extended by CITI (I know I can ask them to reallocate, but can't make those inquires dissappear fast enough)

may i ask how many inquiries?

I'll update once I get my rejection letter and free report. Don't remember if Citi useds EQ or EX, but on TU I have 7.


jcd123 said:   So if I use this card to fund the new checking account, it will be treated as "cash advance", right?

Much appreciated for comfirmation.

Very likely. Be sure to set your cash advance to zero if you're feeling lucky.


Has anyone had luck using chargesmart to pay their mortagage to maximize rewards, looks like I could net $65 in rewards for paying my mortgage. Chargesmart FAQ's seem to suggest you will receive credit card rewards, anyone experience otherwise?

Thanks


Hot!

I have a mortgage with Citibank. Mortgage payment Cash Back sounds awesome.

Planning a wedding, which will involve some big spending also. Wonder when this deal expires.


yOyOYoo said:   Hot!

I have a mortgage with Citibank. Mortgage payment Cash Back sounds awesome.

Planning a wedding, which will involve some big spending also. Wonder when this deal expires.

you sign up for card now.
your fiance signs up for card in 6 months.
report back then if it's still a good offer?



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imbatman said:   you sign up for card now.
your fiance signs up for card in 6 months.
report back then if it's still a good offer?

I mentioned this earlier in the thread, website says it expires 05/03. Who knows if that'll get extended. I'm trying to keep more direct links out of the thread, but go to the main website, click on credit cards, then rewards credit cards. There will be a banner ad fot this card. That page says the expiration date.




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